As a Purdue fan, I'm glad the Big Ten is adding teams that we can regularly compete against.
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Looks like the real deal
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Rutgers and Georgia Tech are being talked as the 14th team to the Big Ten... GT would bring the Atlanta market, and Rutgers could potentially bring in the NYC/NJ market (if the rumored Fox takeover of the YES Network is true).
I think I read somewhere with the addition of Maryland, and possibly GT and/or Rutgers... the Big Ten Network would have a foothold in 7 of the top 20 TV markets in the country === $$$$$$$$. I think Stewart Mandel conservatively estimated an additional $10 million to each Big Ten school.
I think I read somewhere with the addition of Maryland, and possibly GT and/or Rutgers... the Big Ten Network would have a foothold in 7 of the top 20 TV markets in the country === $$$$$$$$. I think Stewart Mandel conservatively estimated an additional $10 million to each Big Ten school.
So it's based on nothing. Check.
Right, my bad. They were #9 last week. Where is Baylor ranked after proving they belong among the Big 12's elite?
Lattimore got hurt early against UT. They're 3-0 (including that game) since the injury against pretty weak competition. The Clemson game will be interesting.
Very credible excuse. Kudos.
Supposedly Fox will control 49% of YES, and I don't know what that has to do with Rutgers anyways. Plus Rutgers really is not the huge powerhouse in the region they want to think they are.
So your opinions are based on nothing. Check.
Lol Baylor proved nothing of the sort. They had a surprise, fluke win. It's called college football.
Case and point.
Those are the facts here. That's why K State is still ranked in the top 10. This stuff happens every weekend.
Either way.
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Yup. Real objective opinion I bet.
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It's the market. You have marquee programs come play in New York and you're going to draw huge crowds and increase the fan base.
Rutgers can barely win in the Big East as it is, how will they do in the Big Ten?So your opinions are based on nothing. Check.
Lol Baylor proved nothing of the sort. They had a surprise, fluke win. It's called college football.
Case and point.
Those are the facts here. That's why K State is still ranked in the top 10. This stuff happens every weekend.
Either way.
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Yup. Real objective opinion I bet.
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It's the market. You have marquee programs come play in New York and you're going to draw huge crowds and increase the fan base.
Point is, YES becomes Fox's foothold into getting the BTN on to the basic cable tier in NYC. Rutgers to the Big Ten = exposure on basic cable in NYC. Add to the that the huge alumni base of Michigan and other Big Ten grads in NYC = increased demand for BTN on the basic cable tier = more $$$$.
Fox might not get control of YES for another 5 years if the Yankees opt to sell their 34% share. I like YES being independent now and not sure I want the Fox Sports branding taking over. There are also rumors that CBS is looking to buy in as well.
Fox is also starting a national sports network in 2013.
Every weekend? When was the last time the BCS #1 lost by four TDs to a sub-.500 team?
Probably get stomped by the A tier.
Compete with Minnesota or whatever.
But importantly, Big Ten gets access to NYC and DC markets.
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That exact scenario? No that doesn't happen every weekend. Upsets coming out of nowhere? Yeah every weekend.
I was going to bring up this very point.
College Football is not popular in NYC (and the outlying areas). And even though Rutgers is geographically close, I can't see how it would have any effect on ratings.
College basketball is much, much further up on the totem pole than football is.
Maybe confirmed.
They will get the games on TV. And people are going to want to go see Rutgers vs Penn State, Rutgers vs Michigan, etc...
This is a long term thing, they're going to build the Big Ten brand up in those markets. It's going to end up being a genius move in the end.
Even if that didn't happen, it blocks out other conferences from getting those schools and the same access.
Nah who are we kidding. Baylor is the class of the Big 12 and Kansas State couldn't even beat Tennessee because they are in the SEC.
Again, you are assuming that people in NY care about those teams - they just don't. And the fact that those teams will now be playing Rutgers instead of each other isn't going to make them care any more. College basketball on the other hand...
UConn signed a long term television deal with SNY and they are not even anywhere close to NYC.
Rutgers does not have a big fan base, I doubt people will be clamoring to see these games. I think there are more St Johns and Hosftra fans in the area.
Eh, Maryland and Rutgers are national brand. Even if people don't want to see marquee national football teams come to town (and get excited if they beat one of those teams), basketball.
And still, it's about what's actually on television. Pretty much everybody in the country likes college football. The fact that it's on TV is a benefit worth having, compared to either not having Big Ten teams on TV, or having other conferences on TV in those markets.
When I lived in NY, I knew quite a few who were big Rutgers fans so I challenge your assumption they don't care
You may be a bit biased because you're in Ohio - and you may think everybody in the country thinks like you do, but it's just not a big deal for most in NY. The ratings in the article MacNut linked would be proof of that. There may be a little more to do on a Saturday night in Manhattan than in Ohio.
And Rutgers is not a national brand.
When I lived in NY, I knew quite a few who were big Rutgers fans so I challenge your assumption they don't care
Again, I'm talking about the area as a whole - of course Rutgers fans are going to care. They'll watch the team whatever conference they are in or whatever team they are playing. But for everyone else - it's just not going to matter - and they all of a sudden aren't go to care more just because they are playing Michigan.
lol no. It's just all across the country college football is popular.
Well yeah, because who in NY has been playing anybody or been nationally relevant?
There may be a little more to do on a Saturday night in Manhattan than in Ohio.
meh, been to NYC. Not all that much to do on Saturday that you can't do anywhere else. And besides, nothing to do on Saturday morning/afternoon
And Rutgers is not a national brand.
Yes they are
I think you'd be surprised