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2012 College Football Thread
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It could happen. It really could.
I can also see UTexas, who has been playing much better the last couple of weeks, sneaking into Manhattan the week after Thanksgiving and upsetting K-State.
If all of that happens, we might be looking at another all-SEC championship game. Possibly even another rematch of last year.
It could happen. It really could.
I can also see UTexas, who has been playing much better the last couple of weeks, sneaking into Manhattan the week after Thanksgiving and upsetting K-State.
If all of that happens, we might be looking at another all-SEC championship game. Possibly even another rematch of last year.
It would cause an uproar. It would never happen with both teams having a loss.
Certainly wouldn't be likely, but if you look at the BCS rankings as of now, there are only three teams between the SEC champ and #1 and only five teams between LSU and #2. As unlikely as it seems, if USC beats ND and Oregon and UT beats K-State...
- Kansas State
- Oregon
- Notre Dame
- Alabama
- Georgia
- Florida
- LSU
- Texas A&M
- South Carolina
- Florida State
...you're looking at Alabama moving up to #1 if they beat UGA. Florida would move up to #2, but only if they can beat Florida State without their starting QB. If they can't, then something has to give.
On the Sunday the final BCS is released, the voters and the computers have to rate a team that lost yesterday #2 even though they lost to a team way down the poll, or they have to vote LSU #2 just because that's how the flawed voting system works (one team loses, the teams below them move up a slot).
And before you tell me a two-loss LSU team couldn't possibly move up from #7 to #2 on the last day of the season, I ask you to remember the final 2007 BCS poll.
Obviously there's a bit of difference because so many teams had two losses instead of just one, but the principle is the same. Voters will have to not move losing teams (who lost to much lower-ranked teams) down to prevent moving LSU up. Will they? We probably won't get to find out.
Barring a blowout loss by Oregon or ND to USC in that all 1 loss team scenario, neither of them will drop far enough to have an all SEC championship. The people - outside of SEC country - and media don't want it. They have a hard on for the conference and will certainly put 1 SEC team in an all 1-loss BCS scenario, but they're not that blind to put 2.
Plus any other SEC besides 'Bama is so far behind KState, Oregon, and ND in the computers, it would take a vast human poll advantage to make up for that (esp KState and ND), except perhaps Florida. Georgia's computer ranking is awful.
Plus any other SEC besides 'Bama is so far behind KState, Oregon, and ND in the computers, it would take a vast human poll advantage to make up for that (esp KState and ND), except perhaps Florida. Georgia's computer ranking is awful.
I'm not saying it can't happen, I'm just saying that the BCS commission will find a way to not let it happen. Nobody will watch the game. As far as I know the last BCS championship was the lowest rated one ever. They'll give Ohio State an AP national championship before they let SEC vs SEC again.
Also, I said it earlier, the SEC aint all that this year. I don't think those teams (4-9) are necessarily deserving of their spot. We'll see come January.
I don't want to see it, either. Just think it will be interesting to see how things unfold if all those upsets happen. My gut tells me it's going to end up being K-State vs. Alabama in the final.
We shall see indeed.
Keep in mind, it also has to be considered who those teams play in bowl games. If they're playing sub-par competition because of fan bases, than it's not really going to prove anything. We'll really get to see though with Alabama, and Georgia most likely getting into BCS bowls.
No excuse, but I think after the big win over LSU, the team didn't have it in them for the following week. They did not look good at all on Defense or Offense for that matter. But this is one reason why I love College Football. Bring it on and lets see how the dice roll!
Speaking of rolling... Roll Tide!!!!!
Speaking of rolling... Roll Tide!!!!!
If the Dawgs lose the SECCG they won't get a BCS Bowl
It would likely go to Florida if they win out or LSU / A&M if they don't
Either way, a Dawg loss puts them out of a BCS Bowl IMO
The Dawgs are always considered outsiders while LSU/Florida are darlings
And with Johnny Football, you can add A&M to that list now
The official Heisman campaign for Johnny Football is underway.
The same can be said of the weak competition the Big 12 and Pac-12 have faced in conference play.
Ultimately, though, you play against who they put in front of you, and the best indicator of conference supremacy is typically interconference games. Bowl games are the epitome of that.
Florida is going to have a hard time beating FSU without Driskel, I think.
I don't know that UGA is necessarily considered an "outsider", but if they get their second loss on the last day of the season, I don't expect them to be as attractive to bowls as other teams who are riding longer winning streaks (like LSU and A&M). The Johnny Football Heisman hype certainly won't hurt our case to jump over LSU for that last BCS slot if we win our next two games.
The same can be said of the weak competition the Big 12 and Pac-12 have faced in conference play.
Ultimately, though, you play against who they put in front of you, and the best indicator of conference supremacy is typically interconference games. Bowl games are the epitome of that.
Florida is going to have a hard time beating FSU without Driskel, I think.
I don't know that UGA is necessarily considered an "outsider", but if they get their second loss on the last day of the season, I don't expect them to be as attractive to bowls as other teams who are riding longer winning streaks (like LSU and A&M). The Johnny Football Heisman hype certainly won't hurt our case to jump over LSU for that last BCS slot if we win our next two games.
The Big-12 and Pac-12 have probably had tougher schedules this year.
Eh, the only real decent indicator is the BCS bowls. Many of the bowls have to select a bowl eligible team from a conference. So you end up with teams like Minnesota playing South Carolina.
Go take a look at the bowl projections on ESPN
Maryland and Rutgers to bail to the Big 12?
http://espn.go.com/college-football...hts-talks-join-big-ten-conference-sources-say
http://espn.go.com/college-football...hts-talks-join-big-ten-conference-sources-say
Go Baylor!!! sorry to all K-State fans, but i like chaos, and also perhaps being catholic Notre Dame has a soft spot in my heart, or maybe it's because of the movie Rudy
Go Stanford!!! would like to see a ND vs Alabama bowl game, it would be gravy if it was the national championship.
Go Stanford!!! would like to see a ND vs Alabama bowl game, it would be gravy if it was the national championship.
@ Maryland and Rutgers
That would be cool for the Big Ten
I don't mind seeing K State losing, but I'd prefer they win to help ensure no SEC in the championship.
That would be cool for the Big Ten
I don't mind seeing K State losing, but I'd prefer they win to help ensure no SEC in the championship.
OU barely pulled out a win today. Not impressed with our performance. Looks like no NC game for K. State, and looking likely that Oregon won't make it either. The mother ****ing luck of the Irish.
Re: Maryland/Rutgers Big Ten
I don't know how that's good for the Big Ten. Media market? Not really - DC? Whatever. How much draw does Rutgers really have in the NJ/NYC market? They're mediocre football teams and Maryland has had a solid basketball history, but has been average lately. Plus Maryland's athletic dept is bleeding money and would have to somehow cough up a huge exit fee.
@#$@#$!!!! C'mon KState and Oregon, what the eff? All the rabid SEC fans are jumping for joy tonight. Now we've got ND, with still a very difficult road game at USC, and a bunch of one loss teams headlined by Alabama jumping at #2.
And how about Ohio State? I bet they sure hate themselves. One of two undefeated teams in the country and no one is talking about them.
WOW! Guess we didn't have to wait long for the rankings to be reassigned! HAHA. ND is clearly the #1 seed and I think Alabama becomes the #2. So much for all that talk about Oregon/K-State deserving a title game...
Well they probably don't have too much market at the moment, but with the Big Tens money and marketing power they'll be able to penetrate those crowds. If not for football than definitely for basketball seeing as the Big Ten has become the premier basketball conference. Who knows though.
Agreed. Have to hope that ND is as good as their record.
Yup. They'll be the preseason #2 next year. I don't think they are good enough to win the national championship this year though, maybe next year.
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WOW! Guess we didn't have to wait long for the rankings to be reassigned! HAHA. ND is clearly the #1 seed and I think Alabama becomes the #2. So much for all that talk about Oregon/K-State deserving a title game...
To be fair,
Stanford is a top 10 team, and lost in OT to Notre Dame. not really any excuses for K-state though. But I'd say they are still just as deserving as Alabama and/or Georgia playing in a weak SEC this year.
WOW! Guess we didn't have to wait long for the rankings to be reassigned! HAHA. ND is clearly the #1 seed and I think Alabama becomes the #2. So much for all that talk about Oregon/K-State deserving a title game...
So when Alabama, the all-world consensus #1 lost at home to the #15 ranked team led by a freshman (admittedly amazing freshman, but still a freshman) QB with an all right defense, there's a laundry list of excuses and it's okay. This isn't even factoring in 'Bama getting outplayed 3/4 of the LSU game and over half the A&M game.
But if Oregon, the #2 team loses at home in OT to the #13 team in the country with a top 10-12 defense, it proves they're a joke or overrated. Sounds fair and balanced. Let's not even consider all the injuries they [Oregon] have.
The KState is just inexcusable though. Too much pressure. It goes to show you that regardless of schedule (see: OSU) running the table is an incredibly tough task and teams that do so should be rewarded.
Don't get me wrong, Stanford played very well and definitely not taking anything away from them my post was more towards Oregon and their fans being so confident and trash talking when Alabama lost to TEXA&M.
K-State, well they have no excuse. They, straight up, got beat.
If and when ALA becomes the #2 seed, I can't wait to see all the comments crying about how the computers messed up and how it favours the SEC. At the end of the day, K-State and Oregon controlled their own destiny and the entire country knew what would happen if both those teams lost.
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I'm not making any excuses for any team. My point was that regardless of your seed, it's never an easy game especially at the end of the season where ranked teams are making that final push and when are division games ever easy especially at this point of the season? Oregon just learned that tonight.
WOW! Guess we didn't have to wait long for the rankings to be reassigned! HAHA. ND is clearly the #1 seed and I think Alabama becomes the #2. So much for all that talk about Oregon/K-State deserving a title game...
Before tonight, I thought that the chances that two of the undefeated teams would lose this weekend were close to zero. Wrong. Alabama still has at least one very tough game ahead, and I don't think that Auburn will be a pushover. But at least they have more of a shot at a BCS repeat than they did last week at this time.
Again, you can never overlook division games but if 'Bama gets that 2 seed tomorrow, you can bet Saban isn't going to let TexA&M happen all over again when they play Auburn. The final week should be a good one!