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I very much like the look of the new iMac.
However I think that the focus should be on more features/customisability rather than thickness. Most people will only ever see it from the front!

Still I don't buy desktop computers so it doesn't matter to me :p
 
What does all-in-one have to do with upgradability? So the former iMacs are suddenly not all-in-ones anymore?

I truly like the design, I truly hate having to pay Apple serious money for drive upgrades that they enforce due to the design. And the entry 21,5" iMac is just ridiculous, 5400 rpm, price has gone up and no way to configure a different drive...Then you have to buy the even more expensive iMac that you might not need in terms of graphical and processing power AND pay extra for the drive. Yeah!

Apple aren't perfect. They have never produced an iMoon-on-a-stick. Why expect a computer that is perfect for you and everyone else? I'd love a 27" with i7, 32GB of RAM, 1TB SSD, desktop GPU as standard for a grand, but it isn't going to happen.

Compromises have been made in the design, and customers that don't get everything they (think they) want have to make compromises too.

In reply to Lankyman, if it had a different logo on the front would expectations be so high from so many? And i love Heinz baked beans.

The point which is continually missed if there is a limited range of machines which run OSX. If you want OSX and there isn't a machine which suits your exact needs you're going to feel disappointed, so suck it up or swap OS.

I guarantee other manufacturers will follow the path set with the thinner, disc drive-less iMac.
 
Here's what confuses me the most: a few weeks ago, everyone on this forum was hoping for a slimmer iMac with USB 3 and Ivy Bridge. Now that Apple has announced exactly that, everyone is complaining. We all agreed that most users don't need optical drives anymore. Now everyone complains that the new iMac doesn't have one. I just don't get it.
 
Reminds me of the wayward sister who we thought was simply overweight but when she slims down we find she's pregnant. What's that back all about?

8 pounds lighter, wow that really matters for a "Desktop". I suppose you're the kind of guy that sees a single flower growing in the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust and remarks "isn't that pretty".

I'll stick with my 2011 iMac thanks very much and give this "porker" a miss. Let's hope for something better by 2014. :rolleyes:

Like... that's just your opinion, man!

And I'm the kind of guy who's pretty dead in the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust. I'm no cockroach, I can tell you that.

And you stick with your 2011. Bully for you, sir. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

See that? I did a double roll eyes at the end. So there!
(act like a kid, get treated like one)
 
Here's what confuses me the most: a few weeks ago, everyone on this forum was hoping for a slimmer iMac with USB 3 and Ivy Bridge. Now that Apple has announced exactly that, everyone is complaining. We all agreed that most users don't need optical drives anymore. Now everyone complains that the new iMac doesn't have one. I just don't get it.

You must have been reading a different forum - all I remember are people saying "I hope they don't ruin it by taking out the optical drive to make it pointlessly thinner".

Which is exactly what they did.

I have to assume this thread is trolling - the curved back is really not very attractive at all, and has caused usability nightmares like the SD card slot being in a stupid place to reach.
 
Here's what confuses me the most: a few weeks ago, everyone on this forum was hoping for a slimmer iMac with USB 3 and Ivy Bridge. Now that Apple has announced exactly that, everyone is complaining. We all agreed that most users don't need optical drives anymore. Now everyone complains that the new iMac doesn't have one. I just don't get it.

a) different posters
b) people changed their minds
 
Apple aren't perfect. They have never produced an iMoon-on-a-stick. Why expect a computer that is perfect for you and everyone else? I'd love a 27" with i7, 32GB of RAM, 1TB SSD, desktop GPU as standard for a grand, but it isn't going to happen.

Compromises have been made in the design, and customers that don't get everything they (think they) want have to make compromises too.

I don't expect such a computer. I never said I did.

Apple is not perfect? This is not a mistake for them, they deliberately made it this way. And no, no computer is perfect for everyone, but now they made computers (lowest price iMac) that is perfect for almost nobody. Price is high and yet you're stuck with 5400 rpm with no options to upgrade. The computer is totally unbalanced.

They should have given the option to upgrade the base model or put in a real disk in the beginning.
 
As a non-owner interested in the new iMac, as I look at the "evolution" on this page:

http://www.apple.com/imac/design/

I'm surprised to note that the 2011 model is not shown. Is that because it's the same as the 2009? Also, it does look like the profile got chubbier from 2007 to 2009. Izzat right?
 
As a non-owner interested in the new iMac, as I look at the "evolution" on this page:

http://www.apple.com/imac/design/

I'm surprised to note that the 2011 model is not shown. Is that because it's the same as the 2009? Also, it does look like the profile got chubbier from 2007 to 2009. Izzat right?

2009 was the last redesign prior to this new design we're waiting for now - yep. I think the 2007 and 2009 design is pretty much the same, the difference being some changes on the inside and the material of the backside, though I don't think the 2009 is chubbier than the 2007, perhaps yet another optical illusion.
 
You must have been reading a different forum - all I remember are people saying "I hope they don't ruin it by taking out the optical drive to make it pointlessly thinner".

Which is exactly what they did.

I have to assume this thread is trolling - the curved back is really not very attractive at all, and has caused usability nightmares like the SD card slot being in a stupid place to reach.

How many posts before the Troll word came out? Took longer than I expected to be honest.

There have been so many knee jerk reactions to the new iMac that I'm kind of dumbfounded. Everything from the look of it to the insides. So many mistruths being bandied about. It's like spoilt brats acting up when the don't get the exact candy they want for Halloween.

There's a way to show disappointment and the fact you don't like something and then there's the way that a lot of posters have gone on around here.

Reminds me of those Jimmy Kimmel "give your kid a crappy Christmas present" videos.

Personally, I think this is the most significant iMac upgrade in 6 or 7 years.

You can disagree with me, but I think you'll find that once the sooking abates, the iMac 2012 won't be the biitch many are making her out to be.

I only hope this new glass enclosure isn't going to cause a litany of problems.
 
I seriously think they skipped Ive this time. There was no Ive video after all.
And it shows off. The design choices never made less sense than they did last tuesday. I seriously expected them to put everything inside a thunderbolt display. But no, they kept the complete nonense "beard", and went even thinner instead. Also I think it is time to ditch the rounded corners. We've seen them by now. Off course, they are still valid when it comes to stuffing gadgets in your pockets (iPhone, iPad), but other than that, the don't hurt the baby approach is nonsense. A display is a rectangle and will remain a rectangle for a while, so follow that shape. Don't make it a Barbapapa.

I hoped they took the black anodised finish of the iPhone/iPod, combine it with some NeXT square angles, and have a very nifty Star Trek like ergonomic stand that finally brings height adjustment back to the iMac.

But hey, they did the unexpected and forgot to shrink the Mini and dumped as much i7 as they could inside. So I'll buy a sexy black brick from NEC and attach a very fast Mini to it.
 
I like the sound of the new screen being closer to the glass and all laminated together.

Hopefully that cuts down on the amount of people with dust and smudge built up in between the layers of their iMac screens.

The less glossy finish should be nice, too.

The only thing I really don't care for is the SD card slot is around the back instead of on the side.

I really like the card slot on the side of my current iMac.
 
For me, the new iMac does not cover my needs. I do not care about lightness or thinness. As a photographer, I need my optical drive to burn the photos to my clients and I need a desktop that I can upgrade. People will tell to get the Mac Pro instead but for the price, I rather get a Windows PC.

As for my laptop, nothing can replace my Macbook :D
 
Like... that's just your opinion, man!

And I'm the kind of guy who's pretty dead in the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust. I'm no cockroach, I can tell you that.

And you stick with your 2011. Bully for you, sir. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

See that? I did a double roll eyes at the end. So there!
(act like a kid, get treated like one)

Well smoking monkey, at least one part of your post has cheered me up i.e. acting like a kid - I can retire this time next year so thank you for the kid comment - :D

What baffles me with this threads and always have done is the complete lack of objectivity simply due to the Apple logo. If this was any other company e.g. HP or Dell then posters would be ripping into them wholesale. All computer components have fallen in price substantially since the 2011 model was released, by far the biggest fall is that of LCD panels, yet here we are with Apple pricing the iMac even higher than the outgoing model. Add to that the worst worldwide recession since the 1930's - truly incredible - for all the wrong reasons. Then we have the base model which many pundits once described as the best value Mac of them all now effectively crippled.

For those who say the ODD is dead - perhaps so in America but the rest of the world or maybe Europe has a long way to go yet regarding super fast BB so there's still plenty life left in DVD sales over here. For many of us downloading HD content simply isn't an option. I think Apple have been premature in getting rid of the ODD - maybe by 2015-16 but for European market certainly not now.

Why people say it's beautiful when in essence it's simply the same aesthetics as the one I own but now has a big fat arse is beyond me - as I said at the start, where is the objectivity?

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blanka writes ......But hey, they did the unexpected and forgot to shrink the Mini and dumped as much i7 as they could inside. So I'll buy a sexy black brick from NEC and attach a very fast Mini to it.

That's exactly my thoughts at present - the Mac Mini has never looked such an attractive option as it does right now. I've always loved the Mini but it just got better. Link it to a good IPS display and that's one good package.
 
I watched the Mac portion of the Keynote and was thrilled. I loved the new look and lighter weight. The fusion drive looked like a great concept. Then I got on this forum later and what a mood shift. Such a downer that I started just watching the front page.

Anyway, I've been buying the base level iMacs and have found that my current model is not holding up for as many years due to low memory and processor. I cannot do a heavier computer let a alone a larger screen so was thinking the higher end 21.5 iMac anyway. Either that or a mini plus a linux box. I am waiting for geekbench and teardown to see the issues. Also waiting to hear more on the fusion drive.
 
Does the fusion drives come as standard or Bto?
By the way i don't understand all the compliants,its an Aio,it could load
a 680 in it...so what?:confused:
I only know that i'll will buy the 27-680 and i'm really happy,
 
I watched the Mac portion of the Keynote and was thrilled. I loved the new look and lighter weight. The fusion drive looked like a great concept. Then I got on this forum later and what a mood shift. Such a downer that I started just watching the front page.

Anyway, I've been buying the base level iMacs and have found that my current model is not holding up for as many years due to low memory and processor. I cannot do a heavier computer let a alone a larger screen so was thinking the higher end 21.5 iMac anyway. Either that or a mini plus a linux box. I am waiting for geekbench and teardown to see the issues. Also waiting to hear more on the fusion drive.

Apple is late in the game with Fusion drive, Intel had the technology readily available with SRT.

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Does the fusion drives come as standard or Bto?
By the way i don't understand all the compliants,its an Aio,it could load
a 680 in it...so what?:confused:
I only know that i'll will buy the 27-680 and i'm really happy,

Probably BTO or the more expensive models. Can't imagine using a desktop today using a 5400 RPM hard drive but hey, it's Apple.
 
I see what your saying BUT the internals have been dictated by the design!
I agree with you they have been. That's why I want to see the benchmarks first. To see if the internals dictated by the new design are really good or not.
 
I prefer form that marries function, personally. Form at the expense of function is not great design.
I do like the look of the iMac, I just am disgusted that the 21.5" uses a 2.5" 5400rpm HD and to "upgrade" to a fusion or 7200rpm drive I would have to spend another £400+.
 
Why should the majority be lumbered with paying for something they don't need. Get with the times :)

The only problem is that you aren't getting any price reduction for not having one. In fact the new base iMac is $100 more then the last one! The only advantages I can see is more standard RAM (but the new one can't be upgraded), 200 Mhz, and a 1 TB HDD, however that HDD is slower. It is a real possibility that the old base iMac will be faster then the new one.
 
If you were to click through the user profiles of the people complaining, you would quickly discover that many of these people didn't wait for the new iMac, and they recently bought a 2011 iMac. This complaining is just them trying to justify their ill-timed purchase.
 
If you were to click through the user profiles of the people complaining, you would quickly discover that many of these people didn't wait for the new iMac, and they recently bought a 2011 iMac. This complaining is just them trying to justify their ill-timed purchase.

Not really. I bought a base 21.5" iMac when the 2011 model first came out. If comparing apples to apples I wouldn't trade it for the new base.
 
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