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Gearbox Software announced the release of Borderlands 2 on OS X out of the blue for Nov 20th, and it's a game which really takes advantage of PhysX. They may have made the decision to release it based on the recent switch in graphics cards in the new imacs. So maybe this is planned for shortly after the imac release? Just an idea, not sure if it is really that logical... Maybe a little off topic but could be some sign? Who knows, clutching at straws I think...

Source: http://blog.gameagent.com/aspyr-announces-borderlands-2-coming-to-the-mac-november-20/
 
Pretty sure this isn't right at all. Apple themselves stated they were having trouble producing parts for the iMac, thus the delay. Not to mention this was backed up by many sources. Yes, certain releases are to push certain fiscal quarter sales, but with the holidays coming up they have no reason whatsoever to delay the iMac for sales sake.

Fair point. But they could have begun production sooner, no? We also have to keep in mind that a lot of the delay is out of Apple's control. The screens in particular are done by an external party.
 
JB Hi Fi just announced a MAC computer sale that ends this Sunday, so perhaps this is JB's last attempt to move stock before either a Monday or Tuesday release????

any idea how quick usually JB-Hi Fi will get the new models in as they become available?
 
Fair point. But they could have begun production sooner, no? We also have to keep in mind that a lot of the delay is out of Apple's control. The screens in particular are done by an external party.

Having stock of a product is the same as losing money. All companies want to place their stock as soon as possible, one way to do it is with shortages of the product and after that, increase the production is the demand is high. Apple will do this.
 
The timing of the iMac 'launch' was a tactical move to ensure Apple remained front and centre when Windows launched 8. It was to spoil whatever party Microsoft would enjoy, especially with 8 driving a technology refresh for most supporters in the desktop world (and all the other markets for that matter).
I believe a significant portion of the Windows desktop market was/is aspirational to the iMac, and Apple had to time their 'launch' to ensure they manipulated minds to hang on in there with their aspiration and not refresh with Windows hardware. All part of the growth strategy for Cupertino.

The production issues must be very real and our November and December dates are driven by stock forecasts,against a background of serious problems. Launch decision must have been a huge risk, and the carrot dangling could only be successful because of strong and resilient Apples market positioning.

SWS
 
It's looking more and more like they do have production / QC issues with the new imac's....Even my personal sales representative says she is "Surprised" that they are not yet on sale.

I now have 2 buddies waiting patiently for a new 21.5 model. One of them has sold his PC and is making do with is iPad 1 as his sole computer....My name is going to be mud if Apple don't release them soon. Having said all that, I'd rather wait and get a perfect product than buy 2 flaky machines with issues. Wait a little longer and get something that works perfectly out of the box makes more sense than selling them with production or hardware flaws...(At least that's what I'm telling them)
 
The timing of the iMac 'launch' was a tactical move to ensure Apple remained front and centre when Windows launched 8. It was to spoil whatever party Microsoft would enjoy, especially with 8 driving a technology refresh for most supporters in the desktop world (and all the other markets for that matter).
I believe a significant portion of the Windows desktop market was/is aspirational to the iMac, and Apple had to time their 'launch' to ensure they manipulated minds to hang on in there with their aspiration and not refresh with Windows hardware. All part of the growth strategy for Cupertino.

The production issues must be very real and our November and December dates are driven by stock forecasts,against a background of serious problems. Launch decision must have been a huge risk, and the carrot dangling could only be successful because of strong and resilient Apples market positioning.

SWS

This Tuesday, Microsoft is gonna introduce new Win8 and Surface systems at my university. I may be there for some information but I'm sure I'm gonna change to MacOS soon....

I think Microsoft is being very agressive with Win8, and Apple knows that. Win8 is such a good OS and new computers with Win8 are too capables sistems that offers a lot of profits to the users so Apple had better start selling iMacs soon and for the future he would be thinking about decreasing their elevated prices if they don't wanna lose market cuote like what happened on 1995

Apple has much to lose if they're not capable to be sucessful in placing the iMac stock soon, they have to face their investors and demostrate they can cover the demand of their existing products and generate demand of the new products (iPad mini)
 
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I agree and its not only a short term decision,i mean look at the ipad 4,just the A6 and nothing more,same Ui,no drag and drop..and look the competitors,Surface with Windows8,Android with multi window feature.. .
So Apple must raise the bar again maybe unifying the low socket in the Mac market,the Air,and giving out an Ipad5-Air..the AIRPAD:D with multiboot
between Ios and Osx or even with a seamless integration between both with Osx 10.9.x .. .
This will let the switch from Intel even more easier..or maybe just introducin a new segment between Ios and Osx,the FUS-IOS-X:D
 
I am getting to the stage that I will believe in the new iMacs when they are actually shipping. November is rolling past with no new concrete news, not even any preordering yet! Of course I believe that they will come eventually but now it is effectively 557 days since the last release. I don't think the new release really counts as a new release until they are actually released.
 
Hello Internet!

I know that Apple have said: "21 inch iMac will be available in November!", and "27 inch iMac will be available in December!" but when ABOUTS in November? When ABOUTS in December? I know they are probably quite busy with getting the iPad mini out there, but I really really need to get my new iMac soon. Very soon.

Cheers

Bytes

I understand your frustration. It's incredible that you cannot get a iMac on the Apple Store at the moment but have to wait for an un specific time before getting one.

Anyway I have no idea and have just been looking today - no news. Sadly Apple is turning away customers.
 
Having stock of a product is the same as losing money. All companies want to place their stock as soon as possible, one way to do it is with shortages of the product and after that, increase the production is the demand is high. Apple will do this.

Didn't think of that myself. Very good point!
 
I'm not really surprised that Apple announced a new product and then delayed the actual release. This is consistent with product releases for Apple going back at least a decade. What surprises me is that one cannot pre-order or customize an iMac right now. You can say this has happened with iPhones or iPads , but I disagree. With the iPhone and iPad, Apple announced the product, allowed preorders within days and then announced shipping dates. I don't know if the inability to preorder iMacs signifies anything as it may just be Tim Cook's preference.
 
man i'm waiting on the 27" guy, sold one of my gasser heli's to fund the new iMac and once i get it, my mid-2007 24" is on the chopping block
 

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Fair point. But they could have begun production sooner, no? We also have to keep in mind that a lot of the delay is out of Apple's control. The screens in particular are done by an external party.

How in the world can you say it is out of Apple's control? Who decided to go with "friction stir welding" for screen lamination?

Who approved the vendor?

Who was responsible for validating the supplier could make the screens?

Duh - that would be APPLE.
 
How in the world can you say it is out of Apple's control? Who decided to go with "friction stir welding" for screen lamination?

Who approved the vendor?

Who was responsible for validating the supplier could make the screens?

Duh - that would be APPLE.

I thought the friction stir welding was between the chin and back, no? In any case, it's frustrating not to know when orders or preorders will begin.
 
How in the world can you say it is out of Apple's control? Who decided to go with "friction stir welding" for screen lamination?

Who approved the vendor?

Who was responsible for validating the supplier could make the screens?

Duh - that would be APPLE.

Once Apple sent through the order, they didn't exactly have much control over the timing. Anyway, I guess patience is key in this scenario...as it usually is with Apple products.
 
I'll just post the same thing I did in the iTunes 11 thread

If not this week, then last week of November at the earliest and likely pushed to December
 
I thought the friction stir welding was between the chin and back, no? In any case, it's frustrating not to know when orders or preorders will begin.

You may be correct on that - it may not be the actual lcd lamination process but rather the aluminum to aluminum bond that holds the screen in place.

In either case, Apple is in control of selecting vendors and approving the "process" - that is supposed to be Tim Cook's area of expertise - "supply chain" management.
 
In the minority

I'm in the minority here but IMO Apple should hold off as long as they can on this one. I think they announced it before it was ready (because of the Windows 8 push) and they are trying to rush to hit a November / December timeline. I hope they have the integrity / guts to call delay on it (like iTunes) if it truly isn't ready. I would rather have a solid machine in February than be their QA guinea pig in November. Because these machines are so locked down there is very little self-service on them and everyone knows the past history of iMac new versions.
 
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I'm not really surprised that Apple announced a new product and then delayed the actual release. This is consistent with product releases for Apple going back at least a decade. What surprises me is that one cannot pre-order or customize an iMac right now. You can say this has happened with iPhones or iPads , but I disagree. With the iPhone and iPad, Apple announced the product, allowed preorders within days and then announced shipping dates. I don't know if the inability to preorder iMacs signifies anything as it may just be Tim Cook's preference.

It almost seems ,like they aren't sure if the issues will be worked out in time and don't want hanging orders. Seems to me like a bit of a screw up on apples part to have a product out gap for this long. I'm sure they didn't plan on this.
 
So, any news?

I heard that 21 is late November and 27 early December

For some reason I dont believe it will be November 21st due to the holiday in the States. The week after is a short week and technically the Friday is already December.

This week seems a bit more possible, although tomorrow is Black Ops 2 Launch. Some might say Apple doesnt care, on the other hand its the Video Game with the most pre orders ever in history, which makes me think that Friday, 16th is a good option and it it would suit me, as this is paydeay for me.... :D And this months payday is pretty nice, since I have been involved in a few project :D

So my money is on Friday, 16th of November.
 
For some reason I dont believe it will be November 21st due to the holiday in the States. The week after is a short week and technically the Friday is already December.

ok I meant late November for the 21" inch etc hehe
 
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