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Again, that would be funny but you're comparing physical media storage that was replaced by better physical media storage technology...In this case it's the cd/dvd and it is being replaced by nothing as 8track, cassette, floppy, and vhs were...And no, the "cloud" is not the same...So your point is a logical fallacy

Are you even reading replies? Why aren't you considering BluRay, Hd DVD, and USB sticks? They are all VASTLY superior to DVDs.
 
I hope the obsession with design and ever thinner stuff doesn't mean that it becomes even more difficult to service and upgrade than the current models. If this is another computer like the rMBP that can't hold a regular hard drive then it may just mean staying with Windows PCs for another round.

And the glued in screen sounds pretty off-putting as well if that materialized. Can't have a shiny screen and was looking to take of the glass like you can on the current model.

Let's see what really happens. Or maybe a new Mac Mini can still be tweaked into a poor-man's Mac Pro in combination with a professional grade screen.
 
Justin Bieber sales a lot of tickets as well.

And his fans, I'm sure, are very happy. How big of a hole is there in your life for you to be insulted by his success :p?

By the way, how ****** would it be, if JB stopped making **** music and made good music just to please you. IMHO, he would be a jerk for abandoning his devoted fans.
 
and his fans, i'm sure, are very happy. How big of a hole is there in your life for you to be insulted by his success :p?

By the way, how ****** would it be, if jb stopped making **** music and made good music just to please you. Imho, he would be a jerk for abandoning his devoted fans.

lmfao. wow.
 
I do not have an optical drive in my desktop anymore. If I really need one, I have a USB external tucked away in storage. I still use a lot of optical media for movies or for books on CD from the library but I can play those on the Blu-ray player or CD player in my car.

I get weird looks from people I do not include an optical drive when I build a computer for them though...

So for design reasons I'm supposed to not have a CD player/burner in a new computer? Maybe that has become irrelevant to some people, but I still like copying my new CDs to iTunes. And yes, I still buy CDs because it's still the better sounding format that music is sold as.

And then there is the need to every now and then burn data for somebody else. Audio or also photos. I'm not going to start giving away more expensive USB sticks for that or take the risk that people accidentally delete or alter something.
 
I'm getting worried. Giving up an ODD, 3.5" Drives and user upgradeable memory for maybe a 0.5" thinner iMac isn't a good tradeoff in a "desktop" machine IMO.

Really? I've had my iMac for 5+ years now, and the only time I've had to get inside was last year when the hard drive failed, and I had to replace it with a new SSD (which I did myself, on a 4 year old computer!). I've convinced my mother to buy one of these machines, and I can't for the life of me imagine why she'd ever need to or want to get into the machine and upgrade the memory. I so rarely use my ODD I have just about forgotten I had one, my mother is the same. As for 3.5" vs. 2.5", there are so many alternatives, in fact I've only got 64GB now in this iMac (SSD) and I haven't missed the 1TB drive that died which I took out of here. I have so much external storage that it's not a problem, and in fact is much better because that data now resides in locations that make it easier for my other devices to access this data.

I think we shackle ourselves to the idea of computing in the past and ignore the reality of how we are computing today. You may have specific needs (in which case the iMac probably isn't for you), but you have to realise, the DIY computer guy is a requirement that is dying out quickly in order to enjoy and benefit from computing today.
 
lmfao. wow.

Why would you try to tell beliebers to change taste in music? How would that help them? How would that help JB, and how would it help you?

And along as people beliebe why would you want JB to stop making music? For some people, JB is the best **** out there, and will always listen to him.

Some of us will always listen to zz top and David hasselhoff. If apple makes ****** products for you, fine, don't buy it. Why take a dump on those that get EXACTLY what they want, and on Apple for figuring that out?

IMHO, Bieber and Zombie Elvis can make music forever, and I'll just listen to whatever I like. Stop telling others wtf to listen to.
 
It is in Apple's niche market I guess. Hardly heard anyone asking for thinner but all of a sudden it's magical.

Apple breeds the worst fanboys, it's not even a contest.
It's gotten way better now that Apple is gargantuan. From the mid 90's up until a few years ago the Mac community was a horrible, uninviting world of brainwashed mythomaniacs. Bitter, smug, delusional, foaming at the mouth when you mentioned Windows. If you asked about technical problems they called you a liar because Macs never have any problems, parroting sloganized excuses like "it just works" and insisting that their Macs are so stable they haven't rebooted them for 48 months. When they talked about Windows they sounded like they'd been smoking heavy substances, conveying some kind of consensus that a PC is pretty much flooded with viruses right when you hit the on switch and then you'd spend your remaining days defragging, editing the Windows registry and recovering from crashes on full- and overtime. It was like listening to the Westboro Baptist Church speculating about what's going on in the outside world. Yeah, the entire population is in a collective gay orgy right now, smearing themselves with feces and blood of sacrificed toddlers. Yup, that's what it's like on the other side. Best stay here.

The fanboys of today are much more lighthearted and easy to get on with. They barely ever yap about the horrors of Windows, they criticize Apple and they don't deny the existence of problems, they try to help. The old breed was ****** scary. They had that blank nobody-home stare and probably wanted to check your thetan levels. Some of the old Mac news sites were like that as well. North Korea-style propaganda. Man I'm glad Apple survived those days and became cool.
 
I hope the obsession with design and ever thinner stuff doesn't mean that it becomes even more difficult to service and upgrade than the current models. If this is another computer like the rMBP that can't hold a regular hard drive then it may just mean staying with Windows PCs for another round.

Apple has never been about making it easy for the user to upgrade or service things. They have taken the final step now, introducing products that's just buy and throw away.
 
although a tear shaped 27" monitor (similar to the macbook air) on a stick wouldn't make much sense for a desktop computer, i would go CRAZY over it.
 
Man I'm glad Apple survived those days and became cool.

Ye Apple is the coolest **** ever now. Way cooler than ****** Windows.

No but seriously, Windows have come a loooooooooooong way, and in many ways Apple have been standing abit more still On the PC front, don't get me wrong I still prefer apple, but the difference between Apple and Win is smaller, and the market share more equal, allowing a more nuanced group of consumers, on both sides.
 
yeah the iphone 5 is thinner, lighter, and stronger.....There's not anything compromised as far as I'm concerned unless you just prefer heavier and less strength than the new unibody design provides.

Except for room for a better battery and chromatic aberrations on the camera lens.
 
Why would you try to tell beliebers to change taste in music? How would that help them? How would that help JB, and how would it help you?

And along as people beliebe why would you want JB to stop making music? For some people, JB is the best **** out there, and will always listen to him.

Some of us will always listen to zz top and David hasselhoff. If apple makes ****** products for you, fine, don't buy it. Why take a dump on those that get EXACTLY what they want, and on Apple for figuring that out?

IMHO, Bieber and Zombie Elvis can make music forever, and I'll just listen to whatever I like. Stop telling others wtf to listen to.

When did I exactly say or tell others what to listen to? You're adding stuff that simply isn't there. Some of us try to stand up and help others out with Apple trying to take them for even more money by soldered on RAM and non-replaceable parts. If it wasn't for people complaining and just accepting everything then Apple would charge the non educated even more money so in a way we are trying to help them out. Not saying you are un-educated and I am speaking technology uneducated people, doesnt make them stupid.

I have some investment in software with Apple, nothing major. There are some high level users out there with HEAVY investments in software and are getting pushed towards alternatives when they shouldn't have to. Again if Apple had to play by the rules Dell and others played by it would be a far better experience.

If you want to argue about my morals or something PM me and I will be happy to discuss it. Bottom line and fact: Apple is selling stuff off Image over functionality. It is not debatable.

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The fanboys of today are much more lighthearted and easy to get on with. They barely ever yap about the horrors of Windows, they criticize Apple and they don't deny the existence of problems, they try to help. The old breed was ****** scary. They had that blank nobody-home stare and probably wanted to check your thetan levels. Some of the old Mac news sites were like that as well. North Korea-style propaganda. Man I'm glad Apple survived those days and became cool.

I could imagine it was worse. I wasnt an Apple user back in those days. Thought the OS looked nice but wasnt going to pay those prices. Still there are some that become talking heads and act as if they are spitting out things Jobs would say verbatim. No mention of thinner this or that till Apple says so then they wanted it all along....yeah thats a lie.
 
lol Dude....You're totally missing it.......You would have a point if DVD was being replaced with a superior form of user controllable physical media storage device....lol....Floppy was replaced with a superior physical media storage so quit trying to compare floppy to dvd/cd.....But now physical media is being abandoned by apple it's a losing situation for people that love using the apple operating system and products in general that desire the advantages of physical media storage...There are so many advantages to having portable physical media storage like a dvd...

Physical media is being abandoned by consumers. End of story.
 
Sorry, but this is "Exactly" what is wrong with Apple

If anything should "SHOUT" form over function, making a non mobile desktop computer (that is build for a serious fast task - computing) thinner just for aesthetic reasons, when it makes no difference to the products usefulness is just utterly idiotic.

Are desks collapsing due to the current iMac weight?
Can you get more iMacs on your desk if the shave another few mm off the thickness?
You you sit side on and think, if only the iMac was a bit thinner?
Do you have trouble positioning the iMac on your desk due to it's thickness?

The iMac is "Supposed" to be the General Public's serious computer (not Mac Pro) it's supposed to be technically excellent.

At the moment, due to Apples insistence on form over function it is limited to laptop chip sets as the case is too cramped and will overheat.
Internal components run HOT, yes they are within tolerance, but still hotter than they need to run. And all heat does is shorten the lifespan of electronics.

Some have suggested the constant yellow screen issues that have plagued the iMas for years is down to the heat/cramped conditions the screen has to sit within.

It just seem crazy to make something, technically worse for visual sake, esp when on a desktop the thickness is a non issue.

An iPhone and iPad and iPod all have to be limited technically in what they can do due to practical size and weight limitations, that is obvious.

An iMac should not be deliberately burdened by those limitations.
Do you really want iMacs always constricted to be not as good as they could be? Perhaps, who knows, even glued together to save that extra 0.5mm?

"It's in Apple's DNA that technology alone is not enough — it's technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the result that makes our heart sing"
- Steve Jobs

And this quote applies to the iMac so much so. I disagree with you 100%. The iMac is all about form married with function. So much so that they are now just one entity. And this is why I love the iMacs so much.

Apple just get it. Most people don't want ugly screens on their desk or ugly towers under their desk. I surely don't. You make a good argument though. And I agree Apple's form vs function stance is rather aggressive. But in a few years you'll be like "wow how did I live without this. Just like how did people live with ugly large CRT monitors on their desk? We all did it. But I'm so glad we have thin LCD/whatever screens now.

Yes the extra heat shortens the lifespan of the internals. Personally I have gotten 5-6 years out of every iMac before I replaced them with a newer model. And that's not cause they failed. That's cause I just wanted an upgrade.

And it's not about taking 0.5mm on it's own. It's about the long term. That's the context. Years of little changes like this all add up to be beautiful product we have today. If Apple stopped caring about form as much as function I'd seriously consider not buying another iMac. It's form, it's low power consumption, etc etc is exactly what draws me to the product. There's no law saying a functional product has to be ugly. And if Apple has to sacrifice a tiny bit of function to do so then that's fine by me. It's all about that fine balance between form and function.

And that's why if the iMac was thinner in the future I'll be really happy. I won't rush out and buy it cause I own a 2011 iMac. But I'll be a very happy person to see this.
 
thinner body or not, the iMac suffers 2 majors issues that need to be solved:

- fan noise / heat extraction
- "dust" under screen panel after a few months/years of use


so i hope that this is not simply a new aesthetic redesign but also a functional redesign

hope will be some "room" for upgrades etc. dual hdd(ssd)
 
I hope Apple goes the rMBP route and solders the memory and SSD in the new iMac so I have to spend as much as humanly possible upfront, and not have the option to upgrade it later. Can AppleCare be extended beyond 3 years? It just might be a necessity.

ALso, why all the whinging about the optical drive? Just plug in a USB drive when needed.
 
Trust me, a full-height external 24x/48x USB DVD drive is noticeably faster than the internal slot-loading drives found in iMacs. (Look for those that look like a "PC" DVD drive inside an external case, not the fancy slim drives for laptops)

My friend rips and burns a lot of DVD/CD and buying a 70$ external DVD burner was the best investment he's ever made in terms of upgrading his iMac, it's like more than 5x faster in ripping and burning.

The problem with the iMac DVD drive is not the data interface, but the fact that they use slot-loading laptop models which are slower (and less reliable for heavy usage).

Finally someone with a decent argument for no internal drive....But there's still the caveat of the form factor issue with external drives....
 
iMac's specs have never been "serious". If Apple wants it to be a serious desktop computer, they can even make it into a tower. A tower doesn't collapse your desk too. iMac has always been about form over function.
I disagree! My 27" iMac is a VERY portable desktop computer due to the all-in-one design. The aluminum back makes it very durable and also dissipates the heat nicely.

I can see making the iMac lighter. 30 pounds is kind of hefty. A drop down to 25 pounds would be nice, but certainly not welcome if it comes at the expense of the ability to change the RAM or a much higher price point.

I really don't want to see a Retina Macbook Pro version of the iMac. That would... stink.
 
I've had to move my 27" iMac about five times since I bought it two years back. Thinner and lighter is good. Can't wait to see that new display.
 
Thinner? really?

Really Apple? Really? Has a single person on the entire f'in planet said, "You know, I'd buy one of those new fangeled iMacs, if it wasn't so easy to upgrade, and so damn thick front to back."

???

WTF Apple?

Yes, whatever you do, don't fix the most glaring issues with the already anorexic iMac.. Hell no, heaven forbid. Don't make it easier to upgrade and service.. That wouldn't make a damn bit of sense *at all*!!!!! Let's toss some damn glue into the mix and make things *worse*!!!!!

Sweet baby jesus in a chamber of commerce manger display, what are y'all at Apple smoking? Whatever it is, I *want some* dammit! I want to see the color(s) of the sky in your world, where this makes any fracing sense *at all*!!!!!!!!!

First the new MacBook "Pro", now this?

It's getting to the point where I may just stock up on used older Macs that aren't so f'in crippled.. Hopefully, by the time they all die, someone at Apple will have come to their god damned senses!
 
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