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Sounds good. New Pros at WWDC.

I will probably wait until wait until July to pick one up, after the first "batch" has the kinks worked out. Also, the back to school sale may start and I may get a free ipod touch as well! ML will probably be a free upgrade as well if it releases in August. That's late summer right?

A good plan, though the back to school promotion usually starts end of May/beginning of June, and last year it was a Mac App store/iBooks/iTunes voucher, so it may not be a free iPod touch again.
 
Sounds good. New Pros at WWDC.

I will probably wait until wait until July to pick one up, after the first "batch" has the kinks worked out. Also, the back to school sale may start and I may get a free ipod touch as well! ML will probably be a free upgrade as well if it releases in August. That's late summer right?

I am probably going to wait a little more. The face of the computer industry seems to be changing a lot this year, with the move to mobile computing, cloud storage, focus on ultra-light laptops and high-resolution displays.

There are some things that will happen to make me take a decision. I am still deciding whether to buy a Windows or a Mac laptop. I want to see how the redesigned MacBook Pro will be, and the features of OS X Mountain Lion. And I also want to see if Apple will finally pull out a new version of iWork. On the PC side, I want to see if Microsoft will keep screwing up Windows 8 to the point the Metro interface becomes a real obstacle to using it on a desktop or a laptop or if it is finally going to be fixed. And I want to see how the bunch of ultrabooks will come up against MacBook Pro and MacBook Air and if they will also get some sort of retina display. The only thing that keeps me away from turning to the Mac OS once and for all is the absence of a good office suite that can perfectly replace Microsoft Office 2010. But the way Microsoft is conducting Windows 8, I am a serious candidate of buying a redesigned MacBook Pro and running Office 2010 on Parallels...
 
I am probably going to wait a little more. The face of the computer industry seems to be changing a lot this year, with the move to mobile computing, cloud storage, focus on ultra-light laptops and high-resolution displays.

There are some things that will happen to make me take a decision. I am still deciding whether to buy a Windows or a Mac laptop. I want to see how the redesigned MacBook Pro will be, and the features of OS X Mountain Lion. And I also want to see if Apple will finally pull out a new version of iWork. On the PC side, I want to see if Microsoft will keep screwing up Windows 8 to the point the Metro interface becomes a real obstacle to using it on a desktop or a laptop or if it is finally going to be fixed. And I want to see how the bunch of ultrabooks will come up against MacBook Pro and MacBook Air and if they will also get some sort of retina display. The only thing that keeps me away from turning to the Mac OS once and for all is the absence of a good office suite that can perfectly replace Microsoft Office 2010. But the way Microsoft is conducting Windows 8, I am a serious candidate of buying a redesigned MacBook Pro and running Office 2010 on Parallels...

Err..you do realize that Microsoft Office 2011 is available for Mac don't you?

No need to find an Office substitute for your Mac!
 
can i contribute to this rumor thread as I have no physical proof?

- my counterpart working as supply manager from Bestbuy HQ in my location says Apple has limited quantity shipments of Macbooks as it is Apple who decides how much shipment is sent to its distributers much like car dealerships.
 
can i contribute to this rumor thread as I have no physical proof?

- my counterpart working as supply manager from Bestbuy HQ in my location says Apple has limited quantity shipments of Macbooks as it is Apple who decides how much shipment is sent to its distributers much like car dealerships.

Are you saying the quantity of Macs being shipped to stores is decreasing? (sorry it's late and my brain doesn't compute :p)
If so that is good news!
 
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And I want to see how the bunch of ultrabooks will come up against MacBook Pro and MacBook Air and if they will also get some sort of retina display.

Apple has a lot of leverage to buy expensive parts in quantity because they don't split their product line 20 ways and they don't redesign everything every 3 months. Not to mention the fact that they own a thousand or so CNC milling machines and every PC manufacturer is stuck with stamped metal at best and cheap plastic at worst. So it's going to be difficult to find a PC with the same fit-and-finish as any MBA or MBP.

As for the retina display, I'm guessing it'll be a few months after the retina MBP ships that we'll see the first retina PC's, provided Windows can handle it somehow...?

The only thing that keeps me away from turning to the Mac OS once and for all is the absence of a good office suite that can perfectly replace Microsoft Office 2010. But the way Microsoft is conducting Windows 8, I am a serious candidate of buying a redesigned MacBook Pro and running Office 2010 on Parallels...

Couldn't you just buy this?
 
Yup thats what he is saying. Could mean something is about to happen or nothing is going to happen. Like taking the red pill or black pill :)




Are you saying the quantity of Macs being shipped to stores is decreasing? (sorry it's late and my brain doesn't compute :p)
If so that is good news!
 
Most of the things people charge are luxury, for most people having any computer period is just a "want"... This Macbook that's on its last leg has lasted me since 08 doing all I do... One of those 600 bucks HPs wouldnt have lasted half that long. Not to mention all the investment I have in Apple software.

I suggested a hackintosh because it sounded like you were going to be missing rent payments to buy a MBP. For about $800-$1000 you could get a 15" lenovo or HP with a core i7. Compare that to about $2K for the MBP. And the PC would probably have more ports and be more convenient in many ways. And of course a hackintosh will run your Apple software just fine.

It's just that, with the $800 PC, there are... problems. Annoyances. Annoyances that many of us are willing to pay an extra $1000 to be rid of. And as you noted, it wouldn't last as nearly as long as the MBP.
 
It's just that, with the $800 PC Hackintosh, there are... problems. Annoyances.

I once went the Hackintosh route... man it was a nightmare. My PC and its components were, on paper, 100% compatible with OSX, but once everything was up and running, there was ALWAYS a little something that wouldn't work: the laptop wouldnt wake up from sleep, or the webcam would record video but not audio, or the audio volume would get stuck at 100% volume, etc. Every time I managed to patch something to work, something else would break.

I spent a dozens of hours on that hackintosh laptop, trying to make it work flawlessly, and never succeeded. Not worth it.
 
I once went the Hackintosh route... man it was a nightmare. My PC and its components were, on paper, 100% compatible with OSX, but once everything was up and running, there was ALWAYS a little something that wouldn't work: the laptop wouldnt wake up from sleep, or the webcam would record video but not audio, or the audio volume would get stuck at 100% volume, etc. Every time I managed to patch something to work, something else would break.

I spent a dozens of hours on that hackintosh laptop, trying to make it work flawlessly, and never succeeded. Not worth it.

Word, hackintoshes are far more trouble than they're worth - either get a mac or just use a PC with windows.
 
Exactly, you get what you pay for. A Mac may be a luxury item, but it will last longer than a $600 PC and do a better job during that time.

I've read a number of comments on here saying they last for around 3 years. My Dell cost £400 and has lasted 5 years, so when the new MBP is out I'm hoping it'll last me as long, if not longer.

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If the rumors are right, and the new MBP will be annonced on June 11, when do you think it will be up for sale(have a similar situation happened before?)

It might be worthwhile looking back a couple of pages as this question has been asked and answered on multiple occassions.
 
I've read a number of comments on here saying they last for around 3 years. My Dell cost £400 and has lasted 5 years, so when the new MBP is out I'm hoping it'll last me as long, if not longer.

Friends I know that have MBPs have had them for way longer than 3 years. i know quite a few people with 6 or 7 years.

On the other hand my HP and Sony laptops? They start breaking down within 2-3 years. My Sony had an issue within the first year. Issue fixed based on warranty. Issue occurred again within a year. Sony said tough luck. And sadly, none of those systems were under $1k so it wasn't like I was buying a cheap system.
 
Ive had my current dell for 5+ years... it sort of has a weird issue now, but until this it has been fine. It is a top of the line XPS15 and not very cheap when purchased. It's time to replace, because I need more power.

I will definately be running parallels for my windows apps (like office and vegas pro) I will have to make to the decision to either stay windows with apps like CS6 and Lightroom and have Adobe switch me over to ? dont know yet on those.
 
I suggested a hackintosh because it sounded like you were going to be missing rent payments to buy a MBP. For about $800-$1000 you could get a 15" lenovo or HP with a core i7. Compare that to about $2K for the MBP. And the PC would probably have more ports and be more convenient in many ways. And of course a hackintosh will run your Apple software just fine.

It's just that, with the $800 PC, there are... problems. Annoyances. Annoyances that many of us are willing to pay an extra $1000 to be rid of. And as you noted, it wouldn't last as nearly as long as the MBP.

Im typing this on a Hackintosh right now. I don't recommend buying a laptop and hackintoshing it however a PC is a completely different ball game. The main things are the Mobo, GPU and to an extent, processor (as in limited choice, only Intel etc) Once you have the above in order it should be smooth sailing provided you have done your research properly.

The only issue I had with mine was the built in LAN on the Mobo. It would cause the Hackintosh to Kernel Panic if I downloaded big things or used Skype HD video for over 20mins, the hacked drivers couldn't handle the strain, so I ordered a Sonnet Pro Ethernet card which worked out of the box and I have no more issues now.

My GPU, the 4850, is used in Apple's own lineup so that too worked out of the box.

Do your research, keep backups and you should be fine. I couldn't be more happy with my 3 screen Hackintosh, coupled with my MacBook Air for when I'm out and about, it's the perfect combination.

P.S - Word of advice, if planning on building a Ivy Bridge Hackintosh I would wait as the drivers for the processors aren't out yet. Also, the new Z68 chipset motherboards haven't been tested fully.

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Ive had my current dell for 5+ years... it sort of has a weird issue now, but until this it has been fine. It is a top of the line XPS15 and not very cheap when purchased. It's time to replace, because I need more power.

I will definately be running parallels for my windows apps (like office and vegas pro) I will have to make to the decision to either stay windows with apps like CS6 and Lightroom and have Adobe switch me over to ? dont know yet on those.

Can't think of a single reason you'd want to run any of those apps via. Parallels instead of the OS X native versions...
 
I know this has probably been discussed before in this very long thread, but apart from Rintina, Ivy Bridge, thinner form, USB 3, etc".... what other little sweet spot touches do you think Apple might through in, like Siri or Dictation or maybe a larger track pad, etc?
 
I know this has probably been discussed before in this very long thread, but apart from Rintina, Ivy Bridge, thinner form, USB 3, etc".... what other little sweet spot touches do you think Apple might through in, like Siri or Dictation or maybe a larger track pad, etc?

Solid State Drive should be included, doubt Siri will make its way to OSX, can't see a larger trackpad either, maybe a full HD facetime camera, that would go quite nice on a higher resolution display. I'm hoping they put a graphics card in the 13" to be honest, would be good if they stuck a premium sound card on the motherboard too. Speaking of the sound card, any opinions on its quality?
 
To be honest i dont care about the redesign i just want something with dedicated graphics card and the issue with heat
 
I suggested a hackintosh because it sounded like you were going to be missing rent payments to buy a MBP. For about $800-$1000 you could get a 15" lenovo or HP with a core i7. Compare that to about $2K for the MBP. And the PC would probably have more ports and be more convenient in many ways. And of course a hackintosh will run your Apple software just fine.

It's just that, with the $800 PC, there are... problems. Annoyances. Annoyances that many of us are willing to pay an extra $1000 to be rid of. And as you noted, it wouldn't last as nearly as long as the MBP.

Nah wouldn't be missing rent I've saved half and the other half I'll charge and pay off. But I would get the 13 inch model and all the third party sites say they will have the new models in no later than two weeks after release so I will save on tax... Paying for the new one, $1200 is a better investment even though I'll have to make payments.
 
Err..you do realize that Microsoft Office 2011 is available for Mac don't you?

No need to find an Office substitute for your Mac!

Yes, I know that. And I do have Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac. But I don't know if it's just me, but I feel that Office 2011 is not on par with Office 2010 for Windows. It feels like an inferior product.

Word for Mac consumes more than 150 MB of RAM to run, while Word for Windows takes only 50 MB. And PowerPoint for Mac is not only a memory hog but also crashes a lot.

For me, Office 2011 for Mac seems like an office suite for casual users, for those people who have to use it once in a while. I use Office a lot (and can't get rid of it especially because I collaborate with others), especially Word, but also PowerPoint.

At least this is my impression. It may also be because I'm using Office 2011 in a 2008 MacBook with a 2.4 Core 2 Duo and 2 GB RAM. Anyway, I feel much more productive using Office 2010. Don't you feel the same or is it just me?
 
Yes, I know that. And I do have Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac. But I don't know if it's just me, but I feel that Office 2011 is not on par with Office 2010 for Windows. It feels like an inferior product.

Word for Mac consumes more than 150 MB of RAM to run, while Word for Windows takes only 50 MB. And PowerPoint for Mac is not only a memory hog but also crashes a lot.

For me, Office 2011 for Mac seems like an office suite for casual users, for those people who have to use it once in a while. I use Office a lot (and can't get rid of it especially because I collaborate with others), especially Word, but also PowerPoint.

At least this is my impression. It may also be because I'm using Office 2011 in a 2008 MacBook with a 2.4 Core 2 Duo and 2 GB RAM. Anyway, I feel much more productive using Office 2010. Don't you feel the same or is it just me?

office 2010 for windows is way better than office for mac! i use it a lot and i must use the combo parallels+office 2010, it works great!
 
2012 Anti-Glare option?

Anyone have any news as to whether or not the new models will have the option for the Anti-glare? I know this could potentially be removed with the addition of the Retina Displays, but I'm quite curious.
 
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