2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

[iamthedudeman]

Well look for a April or May release.

The OD is gone. It will be thinner but not Air thin. SSD and HD combo standard.


SSD caching marries a conventional hard drive to a relatively small solid-state drive (SSD), with the most frequently-accessed data automatically placed on the SSD for fast access while the two drives appear to users simply as a single drive. The functionality serves to bring users much of the speed benefit of SSDs but with the storage capacity and lower cost of traditional hard drives.


Apple will go with a similar approach as above, but slightly different, my take is a bigger SSD than a smaller one.

The above not only pertains to desktops as previously reported, but laptops too. Apple is already making this happen. The price of nand next year will plummet with Apple in the drivers seat. There impending buyout of Anobit is Apple positioning themselves for the long haul of sustained SSD implementation.

That is a guarantee. Of coarse stand alone SSD's will be available as a option too. They could go all SSD but from my dealings with vendors that was not even mentioned at all over the last six months as a possibility. It could happen, it's Apple we are talking about here.

 

[SurferMan]

Here's to hoping the 13" Pro get's an option for high res Antiglare. F'n hate how bad this screen glares and reflects like crazy. But I didn't want the size of the 15".

 

[Navdakilla]

Lets see some mockups!!! haha

 

[M1chbeck]

I think the MBA 15'' will complete the MBA line. Targeting consumers who don't need ultimate cpu/gpu.
All this in the current price range from 999$(standard 11') ,1299$(standard 13') and 1599$(standard 15')
(for 200$ with increased specs like ram/ssd).

Now the MBP line, might even drop the 13'' version and return to a more "pro"-state with the huge resolution screens (2880x1800) and dedicated graphics card (for me that's the reason they would drop the 13'' because they couldn't make it work heat/space-wise in the past) and the new MBP (15'' and 17'') would see an increased price because of the new displays/large ssd's of around 100-200$.

I expect all this, just like you guys said, between Feb and April ... so May it is
Your thoughts on a dropped MBP 13'' ?

 

[charliejlr]

Predicted Specs

I think for simplicity and marketings sake they will keep the Macbook Air & Pro Lines separate, but spec the pros out as follows:

13 Inch - (now Macbook Air only)
Up to Quad Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + Optional ATI Graphics (256MB similar to Mac Mini)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
4/8GB RAM
64/128/256GB Flash Storage
2880 x 1800 Retina Display

15 Inch - (Macbook Pro)
Up to Quad Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + ATI Graphics (1GB to 2GB, faster card, with even faster card as option)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
4/8/16GB RAM
128/256/512GB Flash Storage
3360 x 2100 Retina Display

17 Inch - (Macbook Pro)
Up to Quad (Maybe 6, not sure if thats possible in a laptop though) Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + ATI Graphics (2GB fast card, with even faster card as option)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
8/16/32 RAM
256/512/640GB Flash Storage
3840 x 2400 Retina Display

My main reasoning for this is that the MacBook Pro is for Pro users, and the Air is for everyone else.

By speccing up the MacBook Pro as such it will still be a pro machine.

 

[Callumbear845]

I like it, but I cannot see apple moving to only flash storage yet. It is too expensive for too little capacity. I have almost 450GB of music, TV shows, and movies in iTunes. I would want them in my laptop with room to breath. They are probably more likely to implement some kind of combination of SSDs and HDDs.

 

[thundersteele]

I just had another change of mind. I don't see why there should be a redesign... the current design is almost perfect, SSDs are not yet cheap enough to be the only solution, and it's probably ok to carry the OD around for another year or two.

Ivy Bridge, Retina displays, USB 3.0 and other new stuff can easily be implemented in the current design, and the battery life will go up without extra effort.

Note that the previous, aluminum non-unibody design was around essentially from early 2003 (Powerbook G4) to late 2008, despite a drastic change in technology (PPC -> Intel).

 

[Razzz]

I think for simplicity and marketings sake they will keep the Macbook Air & Pro Lines separate, but spec the pros out as follows:

13 Inch - (now Macbook Air only)
Up to Quad Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + Optional ATI Graphics (256MB similar to Mac Mini)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
4/8GB RAM
64/128/256GB Flash Storage
2880 x 1800 Retina Display

15 Inch - (Macbook Pro)
Up to Quad Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + ATI Graphics (1GB to 2GB, faster card, with even faster card as option)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
4/8/16GB RAM
128/256/512GB Flash Storage
3360 x 2100 Retina Display

17 Inch - (Macbook Pro)
Up to Quad (Maybe 6, not sure if thats possible in a laptop though) Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + ATI Graphics (2GB fast card, with even faster card as option)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
8/16/32 RAM
256/512/640GB Flash Storage
3840 x 2400 Retina Display

My main reasoning for this is that the MacBook Pro is for Pro users, and the Air is for everyone else.

By speccing up the MacBook Pro as such it will still be a pro machine.

I don't think the gpu in the pro's or the air's will be capable of handling that kind of resolution, that would require like 2 heavy gpu at least..

32 gb of ram? get ready to dish out 600$ from apple on their terms, haha

i Do like the idea of optional faster graphics cards in the 15inch and 17inch,
i would like a better camera on it as well as a better wifi chip, possible killer??

 

[lionheart619]

Why loose OD? I always watch dvds if I don't have internet access or other task like 90% of the time.

 

[Callumbear845]

Having four RAM slots would be very nice. It would make upgrading to 16 GB very cheep and with a max of 32 GB with current SODIMM sizes.

 

[GuitarG20]

I think for simplicity and marketings sake they will keep the Macbook Air & Pro Lines separate, but spec the pros out as follows:

13 Inch - (now Macbook Air only)
Up to Quad Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + Optional ATI Graphics (256MB similar to Mac Mini)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
4/8GB RAM
64/128/256GB Flash Storage
2880 x 1800 Retina Display

15 Inch - (Macbook Pro)
Up to Quad Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + ATI Graphics (1GB to 2GB, faster card, with even faster card as option)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
4/8/16GB RAM
128/256/512GB Flash Storage
3360 x 2100 Retina Display

17 Inch - (Macbook Pro)
Up to Quad (Maybe 6, not sure if thats possible in a laptop though) Core i7
Intel Integrated Graphics + ATI Graphics (2GB fast card, with even faster card as option)
Tapered Unibody design
No ODD
8/16/32 RAM
256/512/640GB Flash Storage
3840 x 2400 Retina Display

My main reasoning for this is that the MacBook Pro is for Pro users, and the Air is for everyone else.

By speccing up the MacBook Pro as such it will still be a pro machine.

running those at full resolution would make things so hard to read...

 

[ericrwalker]

Why loose OD? I always watch dvds if I don't have internet access or other task like 90% of the time.

Something is Loose?

 

[thundersteele]

I don't think the gpu in the pro's or the air's will be capable of handling that kind of resolution, that would require like 2 heavy gpu at least..

32 gb of ram? get ready to dish out 600$ from apple on their terms, haha

i Do like the idea of optional faster graphics cards in the 15inch and 17inch,
i would like a better camera on it as well as a better wifi chip, possible killer??

The integrated GPUs in the Ivy Bridge chips will be capable of handling these displays. This is already known.

Also, this is not a resolution bump in the usual sense, i.e. when going from 1440x900 to 1680x1050. The resolution is doubled, but many applications will still run on the original resolution... otherwise it would be impossible to read text etc.

 

[lionheart619]

Something is Loose?

In my opinion optical drive will stay around next five years. Why? Internet bandwidth cap started in America, and dvds is second choice watching movie. Not everybody have internet access that can choose digital downloads.

 

[davidlv]

Something is Loose?

The posters following this comment ignored it.
However, I agree with your reaction in essence. English on the net has become very "loose." This is not seen only in English, the current "modern usage" of many languages has degenerated beyond comprehension. You should try to understand the Japanese the young folk use here in Japan! It certainly isn't Japanese, but rather an entirely different and vastly inferior language. In addition, if you correct someone's error, say on this forum, you are very likely to get a negative "grammer police" type of reply.
In any case, if you can't resist the impulse to react to every case you run into, you will be very busy indeed.

 

[lionheart619]

The posters following this comment ignored it.
However, I agree with your reaction in essence. English on the net has become very "loose." This is not seen only in English, the current "modern usage" of many languages has degenerated beyond comprehension. You should try to understand the Japanese the young folk use here in Japan! It certainly isn't Japanese, but rather an entirely different and vastly inferior language. In addition, if you correct someone's error, say on this forum, you are very likely to get a negative "grammer police" type of reply.
In any case, if you can't resist the impulse to react to every case you run into, you will be very busy indeed.

English is not my first language.

 

[NutsNGum]

"grammer police"

Oh, the humanity.

 

[SolidSnak3]

I want the Macbook pro 13 (base model) to have:
-A BETTER RESOLUTION! (If possible 1920x1080)
-500GB 7200 ( a 120 SSD would be excellent but i know apple wont do it for the base model)
-no glossy display ( seriously come on )
- new intel processors

The base 13´macbook pro cost like a premium windows laptop .....

 

[visim91]

I want the Macbook pro 13 (base model) to have:
-A BETTER RESOLUTION! (If possible 1920x1080)
-500GB 7200 ( a 120 SSD would be excellent but i know apple wont do it for the base model)
-no glossy display ( seriously come on )
- new intel processors

The base 13´macbook pro cost like a premium windows laptop .....

Oh my God. When will people understand that 16:10 aspect ratios are not capable of natively displaying 16:9 resolutions. If you want ~1900 pixels horizontally with a MacBook Pro, it must be 1200 pixels vertically. Thus, 1900 x 1200 - NOT 1920 x 1080. It can't be done - it won't be done. GAHH!!

 

[StuLax18]

Oh my God. When will people understand that 16:10 aspect ratios are not capable of natively displaying 16:9 resolutions. If you want ~1900 pixels horizontally with a MacBook Pro, it must be 1200 pixels vertically. Thus, 1900 x 1200 - NOT 1920 x 1080. It can't be done - it won't be done. GAHH!!

I was just gonna say haha, that would definitely not work. I love all the people who just pick what they want without any thoughts to what is possible.

 

[thundersteele]

I want the Macbook pro 13 (base model) to have:
-A BETTER RESOLUTION! (If possible 1920x1080)
-500GB 7200 ( a 120 SSD would be excellent but i know apple wont do it for the base model)
-no glossy display ( seriously come on )
- new intel processors

The base 13´macbook pro cost like a premium windows laptop .....

The base 13'' MBP is also at least as good as most premium windows laptops.

128 GB SSD is available for the 13'' MBP... so I don't know what you're talking about. As for the Matte display option... probably not going to happen.

 

[charliejlr]

I don't think the gpu in the pro's or the air's will be capable of handling that kind of resolution, that would require like 2 heavy gpu at least..

32 gb of ram? get ready to dish out 600$ from apple on their terms, haha

i Do like the idea of optional faster graphics cards in the 15inch and 17inch,
i would like a better camera on it as well as a better wifi chip, possible killer??

That's what I thought at first, but actually GPUs have been able to theoretically handle these kind of resolutions for ages... It sounds like a lot of pixels to push, but bare in mind that the current 15 inch MacBook Pro is capable of using both its own 1680x1050 display, plus two 2560x1440 Apple Thunderbolt Displays.

32GB of RAM does cost a fortune (especially from apple), but pros do need this kind of oomph. In my work as a web/app designer/developer, I have to have an iPhone Simulator, Android Simulator, plus various versions of windows in VMs constantly, along with a few other memory intensive applications.

I think the graphics cards will probably be from the ATI/AMD 79XXm series...

The current camera is "HD" (not entirely sure if thats 720p or 1080p) which is adequate for most people (though definitely could be improved upon) and the wifi chip supports 802.11n so I don't see them going anywhere with it unfortunately. My home internet is so bad I can't even utilise its speeds anyway, thanks to living in the middle of nowhere.

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running those at full resolution would make things so hard to read...

It would, but the idea is that these are retina displays, so all it will actually do is increase the sharpness of the image

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I want the Macbook pro 13 (base model) to have:
-A BETTER RESOLUTION! (If possible 1920x1080)
-500GB 7200 ( a 120 SSD would be excellent but i know apple wont do it for the base model)
-no glossy display ( seriously come on )
- new intel processors

The base 13´macbook pro cost like a premium windows laptop .....

- 1920x1080 would strain your eyes on a 13 inch display.
- 7200RPM drives cause too much heat in the 13 inch body, and there are SSD options already available
- Maybe a 13 inch macbook air would be a better option for you (it has a matte display)
- They do have the latest generation of intel core i processors

 

[Frankie4Fingers]

The base 13'' MBP is also at least as good as most premium windows laptops.

For the same amount of money? With Intel integrated graphics? LOL.

 

[charliejlr]

I like it, but I cannot see apple moving to only flash storage yet. It is too expensive for too little capacity. I have almost 450GB of music, TV shows, and movies in iTunes. I would want them in my laptop with room to breath. They are probably more likely to implement some kind of combination of SSDs and HDDs.

True, I also have a lot of files, but generally archive them onto a much larger external hard drive for when I need them. A majority of them I may only use once every three months, but it keeps the actual amount of data on my machine in the <100GB region.

I actually tried out the Optibay setup, and found it to work quite well, my only problem is that if they want to make the MacBook Pro thinner, they wouldn't be able to fit a 2.5" HDD

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For the same amount of money? With Intel integrated graphics? LOL.

If you want decent graphics, you don't get the 13 inch MacBook "Pro" ... simples

 

[Frankie4Fingers]

If you want decent graphics, you don't get the 13 inch MacBook "Pro" ... simples

Preaching to the choir. I was replying to the remark that implied the "base" 13 MBP was on par with a "premium" windows laptop.

It isn't. Far from it.