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No way that a Retina Display would make the price of the 15" go as high as 3000$, especially if no SSD is included at this price. It was estimated that it would cost Apple about 100$ more to make those displays, no way that they're going to charge the customer 1000$ more. If anything, it's more likely that they will absorb the cost to maintain a constant price through time, like they did with the new iPad.

If this was some sort of BTO with 512GB of SSD and 16GB of RAM preinstalled by Apple, 3k may be right but not on a standard configuration without SSD.

Does anybody know if those specs stickers are also applied to BTO machines? 16GB RAM can be true only if it's BTO IMO.
 
I'd be more happy if apple introduces an IPS screen rather than a "retina" resolution display, although the latter would be very nice too.
 
3K is redonkoulous..I'll load up a 15 but expect 2300-2500.

They're all speculations. IPS options would be cool though. They've been available on some similarly priced laptops in the past. Apple has done okay with TN in the past few years, but it would be a nice option.


I'd be more happy if apple introduces an IPS screen rather than a "retina" resolution display, although the latter would be very nice too.

Dell and HP used $550 upgrade prices for Adobe RGB gamut IPS panel upgrades. In the case of HP it's compliant with their dreamcolor system, which is really pretty good. If you took the $2200 model from Apple and added $500 for such an upgrade, you'd be sitting at $2700. I don't expect Apple to actually do that. I just wanted to provide some reference for how these guys might derive their estimates.
 
Dell and HP used $550 upgrade prices for Adobe RGB gamut IPS panel upgrades. In the case of HP it's compliant with their dreamcolor system, which is really pretty good. If you took the $2200 model from Apple and added $500 for such an upgrade, you'd be sitting at $2700. I don't expect Apple to actually do that. I just wanted to provide some reference for how these guys might derive their estimates.

Well, ASUS had no problems implementing a 1920x1080 IPS screen in their $1099 Zenbook Prime. And it's IPS by default, no need to pay extra.
 
I don't see the point. Toyota Corolla is the world's best selling car. It does not make it an amazing car, nor a car that I want to buy. I never worry about what the majority of people do, unless it impacts me directly (like voting in an imbecile to be president). It would be a boring world if everyone was content with being Mr Average-Part-of-Majority.

yeah bush sucked

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No way that a Retina Display would make the price of the 15" go as high as 3000$, especially if no SSD is included at this price. It was estimated that it would cost Apple about 100$ more to make those displays, no way that they're going to charge the customer 1000$ more. If anything, it's more likely that they will absorb the cost to maintain a constant price through time, like they did with the new iPad.

If this was some sort of BTO with 512GB of SSD and 16GB of RAM preinstalled by Apple, 3k may be right but not on a standard configuration without SSD.

Does anybody know if those specs stickers are also applied to BTO machines? 16GB RAM can be true only if it's BTO IMO.

yes they are applied to bto machines
 
Well, ASUS had no problems implementing a 1920x1080 IPS screen in their $1099 Zenbook Prime. And it's IPS by default, no need to pay extra.

Hey, you're back:D. You never seem to post anymore. I was just guessing where they may have looked for it. I was referencing the mobile workstation lines, so really a different market with limited volume, and in the case of the HP it may have taken additional programming to make it compliant with their software. It had nothing to do with what Apple would actually charge. I would've liked to see IPS a year or two ago on the macbook pros.
 
Finally...

Have been a PC owner (Dell aka "Hell") whole my life and I'm now looking forward to change this! :D

I have my eyes focused on the 15 inch pro model, and I keeping all my fringers crossed for a "retina display".
 
I was considering the 15", but if it jumps from $2100 to $3000 I'm going somewhere else. Apple takes enough of a premium as it is, no ****ing way I'm giving them another $900 just for a SSD or whatever extra they have put in there to make the price jump.
 
I was considering the 15", but if it jumps from $2100 to $3000 I'm going somewhere else. Apple takes enough of a premium as it is, no ****ing way I'm giving them another $900 just for a SSD or whatever extra they have put in there to make the price jump.

I don't think anybody has stated that the $3000 was the base price. From the recent price list leak it looks like that will be the high end model, with the base model closer to $2000 US.
 
That doesn't seem to tell us anything - or am I missing something?

It shows all of the various part numbers that are going to be released next week, meaning that all of those Macbook Airs, Macbook Pros, iMacs, and Mac Pros are going to be updated to new models.

It also shows the retail price of those new models (in $AUD).

Seems like pretty good info to me. It basically confirms that we'll see a refresh of the Air, Macbook Pro, iMac, and Mac Pro in the very near future, probably Monday.
 
Looks like my MBP is out of date xD. Ahh well, waiting for the newest is silly, I guess you've just gotta be happy with what you have. I'll probably get a Haswell MBP.
 
It would seem that either the 13 or 17 inch MBP is going away as there are only two MBPs on that list (which may or may not be exhaustive)
 
It would seem that either the 13 or 17 inch MBP is going away as there are only two MBPs on that list (which may or may not be exhaustive)

I think that the 13" MBP is going away, except as possibly an Education-Only model like the White Macbook was for a while.

The prices seem to show about a $100 price reduction for the Air (except the base model 11"), which would put the base model 13" at about $1199 US. That's the same price as the current 13" MBP.

I've been following the rumored 15" MBP updates for a while now, but I think that an updated 13" Air with Ivy Bridge for $1199 is pretty tempting.
 
These are my predictions:

13 inch base

2.6GHz Core i5 Duel
4GB of 1333MHz RAM
750GB HDD
Intel HD 4000
Redesign
1680X1050 Display

13 inch High End
2.9GHz Core i7 Duel
4GB of 1333MHz RAM
1TB HDD
Intel HD 4000
Redesign
1680X1050 Display

15 inch Low End
2.3GHz Core i7 Quad
4GB of 1333MHz RAM
1TB HDD
Intel HD 4000
AMD Radeon HD 7750M
Redesign
2560X1536

15 inch High End
2.6GHz Core i7 Quad (Optional 2.7GHz)
8GB of 1600MHz RAM (Optional 16GB)
1TB 7200RPM HDD
Intel HD 4000
AMD Radeon HD 7770M
Redesign
2560X1536

17 inch
2.6GHz Core i7 Quad (Optional 2.7GHz)
8GB of 1600MHz RAM (Optional 16GB)
1TB 7200RPM HDD
Intel HD 4000
AMD Radeon HD 7770M
Redesign
2880x1800

I wish you were right. I disagree only with cheaper models getting only 1333MHz RAM. 1600MHz RAM isn't any more expensive than 1333Mhz.

Stetrain said:
I think that the 13" MBP is going away, except as possibly an Education-Only model like the White Macbook was for a while.

The prices seem to show about a $100 price reduction for the Air (except the base model 11"), which would put the base model 13" at about $1199 US. That's the same price as the current 13" MBP.
No way Apple would discontinue their best-selling model. no way.
It's like you'd said that BMW will discontinue the 3 series sedan and drop the price of the 3 series coupé to fill its place. Bollocks.
 
I wish you were right. I disagree only with cheaper models getting only 1333MHz RAM. 1600MHz RAM isn't any more expensive than 1333Mhz.


No way Apple would discontinue their best-selling model. no way.
It's like you'd said that BMW will discontinue the 3 series sedan and drop the price of the 3 series coupé to fill its place. Bollocks.

We'll see on Monday. There isn't a model in the price list, either from Macrumors or 9to5Mac, that corresponds with a 13" MBP.

I think that if it were discontinued as a consumer product and replaced with a 13" Air for the same price, that the 13" Air would instantly take its place as the best selling model.

For most consumers, the 13" Air will be faster in every day use than the 13" MBP.
 
Looks like my MBP is out of date xD. Ahh well, waiting for the newest is silly, I guess you've just gotta be happy with what you have. I'll probably get a Haswell MBP.

I don't think you're going to receive much love for saying that "waiting for the newest is silly" since you're implying that all of us waiting for this new MBP are silly for doing so. You're pretty brave for posting in this thread again lol

That being said, I'm glad you're happy with your MBP. I know waiting is a tough thing to do, especially since the current MBP's are already fantastic. Haswell is going to be a big update, at least CPU and iGPU-wise, so if you're fine with your late 2011 MBP and want to wait til Haswell, that's not a bad plan or you could even wait it out for Broadwell too since that'll probably be here in 2-3 years and I'm sure your MBP will still be running fine by then.
 
I don't think you're going to receive much love for saying that "waiting for the newest is silly" since you're implying that all of us waiting for this new MBP are silly for doing so. You're pretty brave for posting in this thread again lol

That being said, I'm glad you're happy with your MBP. I know waiting is a tough thing to do, especially since the current MBP's are already fantastic. Haswell is going to be a big update, at least CPU and iGPU-wise, so if you're fine with your late 2011 MBP and want to wait til Haswell, that's not a bad plan or you could even wait it out for Broadwell too since that'll probably be here in 2-3 years and I'm sure your MBP will still be running fine by then.
Yeah I am truly sorry for posting here again. As long as we're all happy with our purchases that is what truly counts xD.
 
Big news yes, but mostly because of the WTF reaction everybody would have.

That's exactly my point. It would be big news because it would be uncharacteristic of a company so many are quick to dismiss.

Everything you laid out is important in the image and market perception of HP. If they did make a deal, it could mean a change in leadership or go-to-market style, or a play at being more aggressive in a space dominated by other companies.

Either way, it would be news we would all pay attention to. (Which is what I was replying to.)
 
My predictions:

MacBook Pro:

15" Model 1: $2,199 US

New design
Core i7 3615QM (2.3 GHz)
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
256GB SATA3 SSD
Retina Display
Nvidia GeForce GT650M

15" Model 2: $2,749 US

New design
Core i7 3720QM (2.6 GHz)
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
512GB SATA3 SSD
Retina Display
Nvidia GeForce GT660M

BTO options for 512GB SSD on first model, 16GB RAM, Core i7 3820QM (2.7GHz and 8MB L3 cache) on second model.

No new 13" or 17" model.

MacBook Air:

11" Model 1: $999 US

Same design
Core i5 3317U (1.7 GHz)
4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
128GB SSD
Same display
Intel HD4000

11" Model 2: $1,149 US

Same design
Core i5 3317U (1.7 GHz)
4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
256GB SSD
Same display
Intel HD4000

13" Model 1: $1,249 US

Same design
Core i5 3427U (1.8 GHz)
4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
256GB SSD
Same display
Intel HD4000

13" Model 2: $1,549 US

Same design
Core i5 3427U (1.8 GHz)
4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
512GB SSD
Same display
Intel HD4000

BTO options for 8GB RAM, 256GB and 512GB SSD, Core i7 3517U (1.9 GHz and 4MB L3 cache) on second models.
 
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