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I can't decide whether I want to drop AU$2,628 (base model, education discount and AppleCare) on the new RMBP. I really need a new laptop for university - my 2007 (I think) 15" MPB is still holding on - but I'm just not 100% sold on the new RMBP. I might wait for a spec bump. It doesn't scream value at me.

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ashsmash, your 2007 is old, but the macbook pro retina is not going to have a long lifespan. I think it is very early stage. the technology hasn't caught up with the actual design. You should have a good idea if the specs are good enough for you.

why not buy a normal MBP? The design is great. it is not too expensive. you can also use a student discount
 
this might have been discussed in some other posts, so i apologize ahead, greatly appreciate it if someone can chime in:

so i'm struggling with which model to get for the retina macbook pro. first of all, as some posters have pointed out, 2.3ghz and the 2.6ghz isn't a big difference in performance for most people. saw some benchmarks earlier and sort of backed it up. with 256GM of flash memory, i can live with it and just get an external drive to store all my non important files (there might even be a chance it can be an owc upgrade option in the future) but what i really want to ask is... 8GB or ram or 16GB of ram? do you think it will make a big difference in the next 1-2 years time? since the memory seems to be soldered into the board, i need to make the right decision before i go buy it...

also, this is kind of random but, i'm currently in japan and for the people who might know this, will they have an option to pick up a US keyboard also and not only the japanese style keyboard layout (in store that is)? i read from somewhere it's possible but want to double check.
 
ashsmash, your 2007 is old, but the macbook pro retina is not going to have a long lifespan. I think it is very early stage. the technology hasn't caught up with the actual design. You should have a good idea if the specs are good enough for you.

why not buy a normal MBP? The design is great. it is not too expensive. you can also use a student discount

This is what I'm thinking re the technology. It looks great and all, but I think the next refresh will be better 'value' and hopefully only here around January(in time for first semester 2013).

Problem with the 15" MBP is that it's only $500 cheaper and has half the ram and half the ram for the graphics card. My only real issue with the base RMBP is the size of the drive - I've got a load of images and music on my current MBP which I guess could move onto an external drive. Other than that, the portability of the RMBP is ideal - 0.5kg of weight is a fair bit in a bag.

Might wait for some hands on user reviews...
 
iMac-like device, no bezel, like cinema display merged with mac mini/ apple TV. Stupidly refreshed the page and it redirected me to the main browsing page.

What? If true this is big.

Go to your history and see the exact time when this page worked.

Then go to your browser media cache folder, for Chrome it's this: (tell me if it's another browser)

~/Library/Caches/Google/Chrome/Default/Media Cache

(~ is your username)

Copy every file with the time from your history (Right click -> Get info) in another folder and rename every file with a ".jpg" at the end and open them.
 
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Why is the retina model $300 less when the non-retina MBP is configured to 512GB SSD? :confused:
The better question is why would you want to get the 512GB option on the regular 15" MBP directly from Apple? A 2.5" 512GB SSD doesn't cost $1000.
 
children, The reason I say it won't last long is because it doesn't have enough storage. If you want to pay tons of $$$ for the 500 GB SSD, you might be OK. For me, even 500 GB isn't enough to last 4+ years and it may be non-upgradable. I'm going to wait for the next spec bump, once SSD prices drop


jcp, You can't replace the SSD by yourself. that's why you need to buy it from Apple.
 
Holy back-orders Bat Man... Experienced the "available to ship in 5-7 days" when I almost ordered earlier... now? Even with the 2 business day shipping option, a standard entry Retina isn't available to ship until the 28th.
 
That amount of screen estate is incredibly wasteful. 2880x1800 = 5.2 million pixels as opposed to 2.3 million pixels from 1920x1200 which is more than sufficient in 15inches and would have been a welcome upgrade from the 1440x900 / 1680x1050 that was offered. Now you're going to need over 2.5x the graphics horsepower to run programs at the native resolution. It's pointless to have a 650m when all you'll be able to run at that resolution is Excel (I'm exaggerating)...

...and I see the 13" model is still only available with the integrated Intel crap...long live the mid-2010 13" model...

The new MBP update is incredibly disappointing...
 
What? If true this is big.

Go to your history and see the exact time when this page worked.

Then go to your browser media cache folder, for Chrome it's this: (tell me if it's another browser)

~/Library/Caches/Google/Chrome/Default/Media Cache

(~ is your username)

Copy every file with the time from your history (Right click -> Get info) in another folder and rename every file with a ".jpg" at the end and open them.

The only thing showing is dat_0, f_000001, f_00002 and index... Does the fact I used incognito make a difference? None of the files open as .jpg images :(

Seriously kicking myself right now.
 
so, i followed everything today while it unfolded, and i have read all the posts here since this morning. i keep reading different things, so im confused.

the new macbook with retina display:

1) is the memory upgradable

2) is the flash storage upgradable.

im going to say it is, but is it? i understand that the parts may not be available yet, but most likely they will be. so whats the deal? basically are they soldered or not?

also, i dont care if the upgrades would be officially supported or not.


thanks
 
destaccado, you don't understand the point of a retina display. It's not about native resolution.
 
children, The reason I say it won't last long is because it doesn't have enough storage. If you want to pay tons of $$$ for the 500 GB SSD, you might be OK. For me, even 500 GB isn't enough to last 4+ years and it may be non-upgradable. I'm going to wait for the next spec bump, once SSD prices drop


jcp, You can't replace the SSD by yourself. that's why you need to buy it from Apple.
You can have 512EB (that's Exabytes) right now and it won't be enough in 4+ years. See what I did there?

So you're saying I cannot replace the SSD myself, and that alone is used as your justification that this laptop will not last? Right...

Keep waiting. Maybe your dream machine will arrive when Intel releases Haswell...

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so, i followed everything today while it unfolded, and i have read all the posts here since this morning. i keep reading different things, so im confused.

the new macbook with retina display:

1) is the memory upgradable

2) is the flash storage upgradable.

im going to say it is, but is it? i understand that the parts may not be available yet, but most likely they will be. so whats the deal? basically are they soldered or not?

thanks
1) No, if you need more RAM you must configure it before placing the order.

2) Yes.
 
You can have 512EB (that's Exabytes) right now and it won't be enough in 4+ years. See what I did there?

So you're saying I cannot replace the SSD myself, and that alone is used as your justification that this laptop will not last? Right...

Keep waiting. Maybe your dream machine will arrive when Intel releases Haswell...

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1) No, if you need more RAM you must configure it before placing the order.

2) Yes.


the reason i was wondering about the ram is because when you go to configure your new retina display macbook, the memory icon still looks like a regular memory module, vs. a soldered type. if you notice, the flash storage icon did change from the ssd icon. so it makes it seem as though it could be. also the fact that its an option to change the configuration, also makes it seem as if it is upgradable. so did you base your answers on known facts? or just a guess?
 
so, i followed everything today while it unfolded, and i have read all the posts here since this morning. i keep reading different things, so im confused.

the new macbook with retina display:

1) is the memory upgradable

2) is the flash storage upgradable.

im going to say it is, but is it? i understand that the parts may not be available yet, but most likely they will be. so whats the deal? basically are they soldered or not?

also, i dont care if the upgrades would be officially supported or not.


thanks

according to the pictures as most said, the RAM isn't upgradable cause its soldered in and the flash storage might be but not anytime soon (if anything, it will be a third party upgrade not an official apple one).
 
Using the freshly redesigned 2010 MBA versus the 2011 MBA as an example, we see that Apples tradition of making the first major revamp the one to avoid may repeat itself once again.

I'm thinking the 2013 MBP will be the one to have. I'll let the early adopters and uninitiated buy into this one, live with the bugs, and assist Apple in identifying how it works in the real world.

There's only so much that shows up before it's in the hands of the public. In addition they may end up making some rather substantial changes to the "built in display panel".

I have some concern over something as radical as this change, largely due to necessity to meet Apples obsessive focus on making it thin. Ad to that a new thermal management system, and those two potential problem areas encourage me to wait till next year.
 
I just bought the 15" mbp retina w/16G and I was wondering about multiple displays possibilities with the 2 thunderbolt port. I currently have 2 27" Asus LED Monitors. Do you think I could have them both connected with thunderbolt (No Nvidia Surround, Just a normal triple monitor setup including the mbp)?
 
the reason i was wondering about the ram is because when you go to configure your new retina display macbook, the memory icon still looks like a regular memory module, vs. a soldered type. if you notice, the flash storage icon did change from the ssd icon. so it makes it seem as though it could be. also the fact that its an option to change the configuration, also makes it seem as if it is upgradable. so did you base your answers on known facts? or just a guess?

i had the same thought as you previously. but according to everyone, it's base on the pictures and some people have actually asked apple workers too about it. i guess we all won't be 100% sure until someone opens one up.
 
can anyone tell me if they are using sata3 for the ssd/hdd in the regular macbook pro models. it would also be cool if someone could tell me if its still sata2 in the optical drive bay. thanks
 
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