I have been living without a MacBook for 2 months now I like the new MacBook retina. But after hearing it still uses the old standards of wifi is it still worth getting it. I know that I need a laptop as the iPad is driving me nuts. Should i bear an agonizing wait till the next revamp! for this new standard.
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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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You could be right for few more months, but all the main applications on Mountain Lion will fully support 2880 x 1800. 2880 x 1800 will become the native resolution in few months.
Read Anandtech's impressions on the new screen. In short it sounds incredible. He played Diablo 3 and even at full resolution got 20fps. Obviously you wouldn't play it that so you'd drop it down slightly.
The AC spec isn't be finalized and won't until 2013. The current ac routers etc. are based on draft spec and there is no guarantee of compatibility. Apple was a early adopter of N and likely will be of AC as well. However it was not included in the new Airport so it likely isn't close to prime time per Apple's standards.
Anand doesn't even list what settings he uses to get that 20fps (which is barely playable as is). Furthermore, Diablo 3 on the whole requires very little graphics power to run as it was designed to run on a wide swath of equipment.
Yes - the screen sounds incredible. Too bad is isn't paired with about 3x the graphics card to make the entire package sound incredible. Which goes back to what I said earlier - a 1920x1200 IPS screen would be better given the power levels of this machine. As is - the statements others made earlier about this Macbook being quickly outdated hold true...
I am actually quite happy with the updates, and personally I feel that apple has satisfied as many as they could by not redesigning the complete pro line-up..
But as many others it has put me in a dilemma....
Because my current macbook(the white) is about to die, its really just hanging on to its life, so i want to upgrade to a new one, but i can't decide if i want to jump the gun for the RMBP..
I'm a student and use my mac for mostly school work, but i will also be using my new mac for some casual gaming and a bit of photo editing..
So basically the base model 15" would do the job just fine, but as many others I have a bit of a crush on the RMBP, but it is really worth the extra 500$? (yes the danish prices are awful) And also, are the base model 15" "future" proof?
But as many others it has put me in a dilemma....
Because my current macbook(the white) is about to die, its really just hanging on to its life, so i want to upgrade to a new one, but i can't decide if i want to jump the gun for the RMBP..
I'm a student and use my mac for mostly school work, but i will also be using my new mac for some casual gaming and a bit of photo editing..
So basically the base model 15" would do the job just fine, but as many others I have a bit of a crush on the RMBP, but it is really worth the extra 500$? (yes the danish prices are awful) And also, are the base model 15" "future" proof?
The base model 15" is actually significantly more "future proof" than the RMBP. Remember, with the RMBP you are stuck with 8gb of ram and whatever SSD configuration you ordered with it for life.
Let's not even talk about OWC aftermarket upgrades, I don't even see those as bonafide upgrade components but more as a source of replacement spare parts. It simply makes 0 economic sense to spend $500 on a 480gb SSD stick that only works on a Mac.
When it comes to that, the only sensible course for upgrades is to sell the RMBP off and buy a new one.
For any gaming at all you're better off getting the regular 15" model with the 1680x1050 matte surface and only 1/3 the pixels to push -- the fact you save $500 is just a side benefit....
You should realise that availability of these is always questionable at best, and they will always be at uncompetitive pricing.
The fact is that these aren't mSATA blades at all, and should Apple (say Tim had a fart and felt like it) replace the current "Apple mSATA" sticks with "Apple mSATA 2.0" sticks, you will be SOL once OWC's stock for them runs out. Think it isn't possible? Just look at the magsafe connector. And the iPhone 5 connector. Need I say more?
I sincerely doubt OWC has a very big stock holding for these very fast depreciating and ultra niche market components.
A question i have and not knowing too much about these things.
Is a fully specced MBA actually faster than an entry level MacBook Pro Retina?
The only advantage being the screen?
To know that would be very interesting..
Also the ethernet thunderbolt adapter work on the Air too?
Is a fully specced MBA actually faster than an entry level MacBook Pro Retina?
The only advantage being the screen?
To know that would be very interesting..
Also the ethernet thunderbolt adapter work on the Air too?
Perhaps 512gb SSD will come standard then too. Soldered or not soldered, I wouldn't mind so much at that stage
Hey guys
I'll be ordering up a Mac Book Pro. But I'm not sure which model to pick.
Is there any reason to increase the clock speeds of the CPU from 2.6Ghz to 2.7Ghz on the standard model?
I have 2 models in mind and would be using it for light video editing, encoding in CS6 suite, photoshop and general use.
I don't know if I would really need the retina display to be honest since I don't see myself gaining any advantages of having it.
I would also be storing the encoded video to the interal drive so either the 750GB HDD 7200rpm vs the 512GB Flash.
On the retina display I could configure upto 16GB of ram were the other is a maximum of 8GB. Or would it be possible to fit 16GB 3rd party ram myself in the standard model?
Standard Display Model (£2,159.00)
Retina Display Model (£2,299.00)
I'll be ordering up a Mac Book Pro. But I'm not sure which model to pick.
Is there any reason to increase the clock speeds of the CPU from 2.6Ghz to 2.7Ghz on the standard model?
I have 2 models in mind and would be using it for light video editing, encoding in CS6 suite, photoshop and general use.
I don't know if I would really need the retina display to be honest since I don't see myself gaining any advantages of having it.
I would also be storing the encoded video to the interal drive so either the 750GB HDD 7200rpm vs the 512GB Flash.
On the retina display I could configure upto 16GB of ram were the other is a maximum of 8GB. Or would it be possible to fit 16GB 3rd party ram myself in the standard model?
Standard Display Model (£2,159.00)
- 2.7GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.7GHz
- 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
- 750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
- MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Glossy Widescreen Display @ 1680 x 1050 Resolution
- Optical Drive
Retina Display Model (£2,299.00)
- 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
- 8GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
- 512GB Flash Storage
- HDMI Available Output for External Monitor
- 2880 x 1800 Resolution
- No Optical Drive
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The only thing showing is dat_0, f_000001, f_00002 and index... Does the fact I used incognito make a difference? None of the files open as .jpg images
Seriously kicking myself right now.
Yes, incognito doesn't store your data so that's why.
How did you manage to get to that page anyway?
Thank you, that's very helpful.
One of the main things I'm after is a great picture for not only getting started on PS but also watching films whilst I travel. Which is why I'm disappointed that the resolution on the 13" didn't get bumped up to the same as what the Air has. And I'm wondering whether I would notice much of a difference between the two?
Are you aware of whether the Base 13" Pro would be able to handle the running of a program such as Logic? That's another area I'd like to start dabbling in.
Without having used SSD and not really knowing what I'm potentially missing out on I do have quite a large music and film database on my current crappy Dell, so would like high storage which is why I'd have to go for the 256gb if opting for the 13" Air, even though it's a pretty massive £234 price increase.
The subwoofer on the Pro is another plus point for me, so I guess it comes down to whether there's much of a noticeable difference in screen resolution and also how much of a potential problem the non glossy / antiglare display would pose.
Did you guys notice, Apple online store does not allow you to upgrade the previous model Macbook Pro memory to 16GB...
It only provides the option for Next-gen Macbook Pro (Retina)
It only provides the option for Next-gen Macbook Pro (Retina)
***As a disclaimer to this -- I run Windows 7 exclusively on my Macbook Pro and would do the same if I purchased a brand new one.
In my mind - unless you have a specific need for OSX - the new Asus Zenbook lineup blows away the 13" Macbook Pros (and Airs) and I'd look there for the needs you've just described... As much time as I've spent railing against the negative consequences of the 2880x1800 "retina" panel, I also think the 1280x800 in the 13" Macbook Pro is in dire need of an upgrade...
Screen resolution vs graphics power really is a bit like the story of Goldilocks and Apple missed the mark.
(I prefer non-glossy but that's more personal preference thing and since I've never ran Logic I wouldn't be able to give you any better info than you could find with Google)...
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You misunderstand what I was getting at.
Yes, right now there are some issues with software not allowing certain things to properly run at 2880x1800. Those issues probably will be fixed within a few months. However, even after those things are fixed - you'll still have the issue of an nVidia 650m graphics card being underpowered to push all 5.184 million pixels in many current applications - let alone the stuff coming out in the near future...
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What proof is there that the nVidia 650m will be unable to push the 5.184 million pixels?
I am not saying you are wrong, I am just curious.
I think the concerns over lack of adequate storage are a bit overblown. This isn't a Macbook Air rev A with one USB 2.0 port and nothing else. You have couple Thunderbolt and couple USB 3.0, which means ultra fast external storage options. Freecom just announced a 1 TB ultra slim Thunderbolt drive shipping next month for 189 pounds, it will be under 150 by a couple of months time. Even if you don't like the idea of hard drives dangling on a cable, you can stick in an SDXC card and have 32, 64 and probably soon 128GB storage for reasonable prices. So, plenty of options.
Rather, I think the upgrade to do is taking the RAM up to 16GB - doesn't cost too much in the greater scheme of things, will always be a benefit and will give massive boost to the resale value.
Rather, I think the upgrade to do is taking the RAM up to 16GB - doesn't cost too much in the greater scheme of things, will always be a benefit and will give massive boost to the resale value.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html
Since most of their results are done with resolutions of 1366x768 (1/5 the number of pixels) - divide the results by five and you'll get an idea of the graphics performance at native resolution.
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Yes -- "In my mind" ; Generally when I give my opinion on something I like to state it as such.