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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

Quick question. I'm in the market for a 15" Pro, and tbh, because I want an onboard Optical drive, and a 750Gb hard drive, I'm very tempted to just get on and order one now.

But a part of me thinks 'Hang on, just wait and see what the new one looks like.'

Question is, will Apple remove the old Pro from the website at the point where they hold the press release about the new specs, or will there still be a week or two in which I could order an old model, once I've seen what the new ones are like?

I'd hate to spend £2k+ on a laptop, then have to spend another £130 on a couple of superdrives, plus I don't know how much on a decent sized SSD, if the rumours are true, and the HDD & optical drive get the boot.
 
while i was in the toilet (excuse me this detail :rolleyes:) i was looking at some SSD informations
and something popupped into my mind...

what might be a possible draw-back for the new mbp ?

what if they put an SSD (say 128 gb) letting you overpay it
while with the current models you might get an old model with the cheapest HDD and buy yourself an SSD, same dimension for less, or double size for same expense

how do you see this scenario ?
 
skaertus said:
That's true, I had thought of it... unless Apple releases an update to OS X Lion allowing retina displays. And, anyway, it's been only 170 days since the MacBook Pro was updated for the last time. Isn't it a bit early for it to get a new update? Perhaps Apple will update the Pro in June.
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- That update 170 days ago was just a minor speed bump of the models that came out ~1 year ago
- As stated above, OSX has support for HiDPI modes (for "retina displays") since 10.7.0
 
Boo The Hamster said:
Quick question. I'm in the market for a 15" Pro, and tbh, because I want an onboard Optical drive, and a 750Gb hard drive, I'm very tempted to just get on and order one now.

But a part of me thinks 'Hang on, just wait and see what the new one looks like.'

Question is, will Apple remove the old Pro from the website at the point where they hold the press release about the new specs, or will there still be a week or two in which I could order an old model, once I've seen what the new ones are like?

I'd hate to spend £2k+ on a laptop, then have to spend another £130 on a couple of superdrives, plus I don't know how much on a decent sized SSD, if the rumours are true, and the HDD & optical drive get the boot.
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You will most likely still be able to buy a refurbished 2011 Pro, and even if Apple stop selling the 2011 models immediately you should be able to get hold of one through other retailers such as John Lewis.
 
If memory serves, I think last year's Sandy Bridge Macbook Pros were announced a few days (maybe a week) before the SB chips were released. Maybe we're getting close :)
 
New Apple said:
while i was in the toilet (excuse me this detail :rolleyes:) i was looking at some SSD informations
and something popupped into my mind...

what might be a possible draw-back for the new mbp ?

what if they put an SSD (say 128 gb) letting you overpay it
while with the current models you might get an old model with the cheapest HDD and buy yourself an SSD, same dimension for less, or double size for same expense

how do you see this scenario ?
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If it comes with an ssd standard, I don't imagine the cost of the unit will increase so you could still replace the ssd with a higher capacity or faster one(assuming it is not a blade).
 
Boe11 said:
Relentless, he is.

I kind of agree about HD space. Aside from those doing photo and video work, are people really filling up their HDs these? I don't even keep a media library anymore. Everything is pretty much streamed. Give me an affordable 256gb ssd option (or the ability to upgrade it myself) and I'll be as happy as can be :)

Not that me not needing all that space means that no one does, but I expect the demand for HD space will begin to diminish as internet speeds and streaming services continue to improve and the cloud takes over. Most things that still require a ton of space are better served by an external solution anyway.
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A hybrid system of SSD for OS and applications with traditional drive for media would be best. This is the approach seen in some newer ultrabooks...
 
If it's any indication, last summer, before they discontinued the white MacBook and updated the MacBook Air and Mac mini, resellers' supplies of each model were noticed to be constrained on June 29th, June 26th and June 29th, respectively. That's 21 days before the announcement of the new MBA and Mac mini which was on July 20th.

This year, resellers' supplies of the 2011 15" MacBook Pro were noticed to be constrained by AppleInsider (the same source that noticed the constrained supplies of the white MacBook last year) on April 10th. Following last year's timing, a refresh should be expected around 21 days later, which happens to be May 1st.

That's less than three weeks from now. :)

EDIT: Also, the release date for the Sandy Bridge CPUs suitable for the early 2011 MBP (the first ones with SB) was February 20th. The MacBook Pros with those CPUs were announced on February 24th, 4 days later.

A May 1st announcement for the 2012 MBPs would be either 2 or 8 days after the release of the Ivy Bridge chips, depending on which report you believe (April 23rd or April 29th launch), which also ressembles last year's timing.
 
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pgiguere1 said:
If it's any indication, last summer, before they discontinued the white MacBook and updated the MacBook Air and Mac mini, resellers' supplies of each model were noticed to be constrained on June 29th, June 26th and June 29th, respectively. That's 21 days before the announcement of the new MBA and Mac mini which was on July 20th.

This year, resellers' supplies of the 2011 15" MacBook Pro were noticed to be constrained by AppleInsider (the same source that noticed the constrained supplies of the white MacBook last year) on April 10th. Following last year's timing, a refresh should be expected around 21 days later, which happens to be July 1st, which is also a Wednesday (like last year).

That's less than three weeks from now. :)
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July 1st? Don't you mean May 1st? I see xD ;'D
 
pgiguere1 said:
If it's any indication, last summer, before they discontinued the white MacBook and updated the MacBook Air and Mac mini, resellers' supplies of each model were noticed to be constrained on June 29th, June 26th and June 29th, respectively. That's 21 days before the announcement of the new MBA and Mac mini which was on July 20th.

This year, resellers' supplies of the 2011 15" MacBook Pro were noticed to be constrained by AppleInsider (the same source that noticed the constrained supplies of the white MacBook last year) on April 10th. Following last year's timing, a refresh should be expected around 21 days later, which happens to be May 1st.

That's less than three weeks from now. :)

EDIT: Also, the release date for the Sandy Bridge CPUs suitable for the early 2011 MBP (the first ones with SB) was February 20th. The MacBook Pros with those CPUs were announced on February 24th, 4 days later.

A May 1st announcement for the 2012 MBPs would be either 2 or 8 days after the release of the Ivy Bridge chips, depending on which report you believe (April 23rd or April 29th launch), which also ressembles last year's timing.
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Awesome sleuthing. One of the most useful posts in this thread I've seen recently! I wanted to do this exact investigation, but didn't know how.

We should start to see leaked parts any day now!
 
PeterJP said:
Hi,



Remember that Steve Jobs was the man behind the Air ? I think he'd update the Pro to a tapered design sooner rather than later, including kicking out the optical drive.

On the other hand, I also very much think it makes sense to keep a clear distinction between the pro and the Air. User upgradeable vs fixed config, to keep it simple. If the Pro 13" loses its optical drive and gets a blade SSD, I don't see any reason why they should keep it next to an Air 13". My guess is that, if these two would become too similar, the Pro 13" would be killed and the 15"+17" would stay high end machines with a discrete GPU, but without retina display.


Peter.
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All good points, though he did at the time always keep the two lines pretty distinct while he was there. I'm really hoping they don't kill the 13" model on the Pro line regardless though. Just on a personal level, when I upgrade I'll probably be getting the 13" MacBook Pro eventually. I enjoy the form factor of the MacBook Aluminum I have now, so if it's similar I'll probably still go for it. The actual form factor of the air doesn't bother me, even though I like the Pro design more, it's just the implications that come with it such as the RAM not being upgradeable, along with the benchmarks that take a hit compared to the Pro line. It's too much of a "closed case" for me as it is. I couldn't imagine justifying a purchase of a computer that wouldn't even let me upgrade the RAM. Being forced to buy generic overpriced RAM from Apple is definitely not a selling point for me.

I mean the portability of the Air might be worth it for some people, don't get me wrong, but for me, it wouldn't be worth the sacrifice in specs or versatility. I have no issue carrying around a 13".

I suppose we'll just have to wait and I see. I still definitely think Apple did some great aesthetic work with the Pro design. I don't even think other manufactures have caught up to the general quality and aesthetic of the case, even after all these years.
 
Probable because Apple keeps their **** locked down. Or because Macbook pro update is further away than what every else thinks.
 
MBP 13" after refresh

Is it likely this model will be merged with the 13" MBA after the refresh? Are we now looking at a possible earlier update to the 13" and 17" than expected?
 
I have the money now, it's just waiting for Apple to releasee the 15" mbp. I'll wait until July if need be.
 
Check out this article. Intel is saying Ivy Bridge can support retina screens. Could we see high resolutions on the new MBPs?

http://9to5mac.com/2012/04/12/intel-vp-ivy-bridge-processor-is-built-for-retina-display-computer-displays/#/vanilla/discussion/embed
 
If Apple do decide to axe the 13" pro, will it be communicated well or just left in limbo? I think it looks like the 15" is being released very soon, but I'd be rather pissed if I wait around until July only for Apple to have no intention of making a new pro 13".
 
Frankied22 said:
Here is the article saying Intel is now planning to release the airy Bridge chips on April 23rd.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120411PD216.html

This is Digitimes however, and they have a horrible track record. I think we will e seeing new MBPs in a week or two. Maybe they will release them when Apple holds their fnancial call? :cool:
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True. I got an update from Intel NDA :

Intel® 7 Series Chipset/Motherboards (with 2nd gen Intel® CoreTM processors ‐ Sandy Bridge only): April 8th, 2012 12:01AM local time.
3rd Gen Intel® CoreTM processors (Ivy Bridge): April 23rd, 2012 09:01AM PST. Your local press relations manager will keep you informed of any updates on the program.
Thank you for your time and effort in reviewing this platform. If you have any questions during the review process, please contact your local geo Intel PR manager.
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I also read this : http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57412840-64/first-intel-ivy-bridge-launch-expected-on-april-23/

Most upcoming *ultrabooks* expected for 23 april will have an NVIDIA GPU. So, this should be 15" notebook with Quad Core Ivy Bridge 22 nm and GeForce Kepler 28 nm. MacBook Pro 15" also seems to be expected those days and should be slimmer. So slimmer means new design or at least an updated design.

According to me, MacBook Pro 15" can be launch on 24 april witch is a tuesday, an Apple favorite day.
 
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Huggis said:
A hybrid system of SSD for OS and applications with traditional drive for media would be best. This is the approach seen in some newer ultrabooks...
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That won't happen IMO.

I think the 15" air like version will be a quad core with intel graphics. Nothing special, oh and a usb 3.0 port.

That will be the base.
 
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