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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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The way I see it, it will be released either next week (maaaybe the week after that) or at WWDC. It seems conceivable that Apple decided on next week as a launch date, which fell in line with Intel's original Ivy Bridge announcement date (before it got moved up a week).
Anything past next week becomes about a month to WWDC, which will steal some of WWDC's thunder prior to the actual event.
Then again, will Apple really release a redesign without a media event? I say yes, because we may not actually be talking about a redesign. I think Apple may simply release a 15" MacBook Air that has legit power, while refreshing the 13" and 15" MacBook Pros with ODDs and are superior in performance power to their thinner counterparts... Think about it... It would be very confusing of Apple to release a 15" thin pro but not a 13" thin pro next week. Because then we'll have a low power 13", Pro power 13" with ODD and Pro power 15" with no ODD. Sounds very un-Apple to me, however temporary it's supposed to be.
The rumor that the thin 13" pro will come later in summer/fall makes little sense to me. I have a feeling that this is just an interpretation of the lack of a thin 13" pro rumor in the face of a legit thin 15" rumor. Call the thin 15" a 15" air, and it all makes sense.
... Just my take on this!
Anything past next week becomes about a month to WWDC, which will steal some of WWDC's thunder prior to the actual event.
Then again, will Apple really release a redesign without a media event? I say yes, because we may not actually be talking about a redesign. I think Apple may simply release a 15" MacBook Air that has legit power, while refreshing the 13" and 15" MacBook Pros with ODDs and are superior in performance power to their thinner counterparts... Think about it... It would be very confusing of Apple to release a 15" thin pro but not a 13" thin pro next week. Because then we'll have a low power 13", Pro power 13" with ODD and Pro power 15" with no ODD. Sounds very un-Apple to me, however temporary it's supposed to be.
The rumor that the thin 13" pro will come later in summer/fall makes little sense to me. I have a feeling that this is just an interpretation of the lack of a thin 13" pro rumor in the face of a legit thin 15" rumor. Call the thin 15" a 15" air, and it all makes sense.
... Just my take on this!
It's not trolling. it's satire. basically, 99% of the posts here are nearly as dumb as that one
It'd be interesting to see what CPU they would put into a 15" MBA because currently, the 15" MBP form factor allows for a 45W TDP, 10W greater than a 13" MBP allows and also has a dGPU while the 13" MBP doesn't, but the 15" MBP also can fit 2 fans into it.
In the 13" MBA, however, the TDP for ULV ivy bridge processors are only 17 W and are 1.8 and 2.0 GHz and I'm assuming the updated 13" MBA will have the 1.8 as standard and 2.0 as an option. So then what would they put into the 15" MBA?? Because obviously since it's bigger, it needs to be more powerful (I think that's true for all of Apple's laptops).
Perhaps with 2 fans (vs the 1 in the 13" models) and the larger 15" body cavity, they could fit in the 35W i7-3612QM CPU that people are hoping go into the redesigned 13" MBP. I have no idea if it's possible lol, i'm just kinda writing out loud. I guess if it's not possible, they could also just take an i5 35 W Duo-core and underclock it so the TDP goes down to fit it into the 15" MBA but still have a higher frequency than the 13" MBA. Anyone else have any thoughts on which processor would go into a 15" MBA?
I think he's referring to having the same real estate as those resolutions and then making them "retina" by doubling the number in each dimension (yes, i know that's not what retina actually means) so resolutions of 2880x1800 for 13", 3360x2100 for 15", and 3840 x 2400 for the 17". Personally, I'd take a 1680x1050 15" MBP with IPS over 3360x2100 with TN displays. The 11" and 13" Asus Zenbook Prime ultrabooks are going to have 1920x1080 with IPS, why can't a 15" MBP at least match that?
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They've unevenly updated things before, why wouldn't they do it again? It doesn't have to be the whole line at once. By the time chips come out for the 13" the chips for the 15 and 17 will be two months old--a long time in the tech sector. Apple won't do that.
Also... LOL @ people who count "Late 2011" as a refresh. Spec bump was it. I see this as we've been waiting 14 months for a new MBP, not 6 like the rest of you seem to see.
Also... LOL @ people who count "Late 2011" as a refresh. Spec bump was it. I see this as we've been waiting 14 months for a new MBP, not 6 like the rest of you seem to see.
I don't see why people are expecting a Macbook Pro to look like the Airs.
People don't seem to realize why it hasn't been updated since 09(Announced Oct 08 but 2009 models) is because the design doesn't need much updating. How much thinner can you make them without sacrificing performance?
The 15 inch for example is 0.95 inch or 24mm thin. Intels Ultrabook spec for 14 Laptop which is 14 inch or greater is just 21mm. That is a 3mm difference. Basically the current Mac Book pros almost qualify for a Ultrabook in it's thickness. Now I know Ultrabook specs don't mean much as they copied off of Apple in the first place. Just saying to illustrate a point.
To get thinner the ethernet would have to go. The current Macbook Pros ethernet port is as wide as the bottom half of the current Macbook Pros. They could shave a few mm off the bottom but that is it. A 0.75 mm Macbook Pro? I don't see the 2012 MacBook Pros going much thinner. Or the shape being a wedge shape design. Thinner but same design is my guess. OD is gone. Bigger battery is a given. Sharper display is a given. Ivy Bridge of coarse.
Any thing else is up in the Air so to speak.
People don't seem to realize why it hasn't been updated since 09(Announced Oct 08 but 2009 models) is because the design doesn't need much updating. How much thinner can you make them without sacrificing performance?
The 15 inch for example is 0.95 inch or 24mm thin. Intels Ultrabook spec for 14 Laptop which is 14 inch or greater is just 21mm. That is a 3mm difference. Basically the current Mac Book pros almost qualify for a Ultrabook in it's thickness. Now I know Ultrabook specs don't mean much as they copied off of Apple in the first place. Just saying to illustrate a point.
To get thinner the ethernet would have to go. The current Macbook Pros ethernet port is as wide as the bottom half of the current Macbook Pros. They could shave a few mm off the bottom but that is it. A 0.75 mm Macbook Pro? I don't see the 2012 MacBook Pros going much thinner. Or the shape being a wedge shape design. Thinner but same design is my guess. OD is gone. Bigger battery is a given. Sharper display is a given. Ivy Bridge of coarse.
Any thing else is up in the Air so to speak.
I agree with this. The only thing I could see happening is Apple removing the SuperDrive, just like they did with the Mac Minis last year; and that does not warrant an event to show it off. It will just be a silent update overnight on the site. It's clear Apple wants to remove ODDs and just sell an external SuperDrive for those rare instances. I mean, the Mac Mini is used by millions as a media center computer, and Apple had no qualms with simply removing the SuperDrive. By removing it on the next MBPs Apple will have room to add ports to the right side of the machine, and create room inside the machine for bigger battery, bigger gfx card, SSD, etc.
Pfff can't wait as i would like to know what the new prices will be as i want buy a similar model like what now is the 13" basemodel and i hope they wont get alot more then the $1199(1149 in The Netherlands) now
i hope so but i really hope they announce the newmodels next week
It is always good to keep an positive atitude.
Each leader has its own way to act. Ones are more on a "risk approach" and others do not like to take chances.
Steve as a "risk approach" guy that put the company under a lot of pressure to inovate and keep presenting new and improved products.
I sincerelly do not know what is Tim's approach, but you do have a Time to Market and coming with new products much later than your competition can bring you serious issues because you can became from a role of a leader to a follower.
Everyone (inclunding the stock market) are very , very anxious to see the performance of the new CEO.
Do not forget that the finantial results we are getting still have an huge legacy from Steve Jobs, but the next ones will also have to be brilliant or else the most risky issue that Apple is facing will happen....(everyone tends to be concerned with the association of Apple sucess to Steve Jobs and with Steve gone , who knows what will happen....).
If I were to choose in terms of product launching I would have absolutelly no doubt to launch something new next week. After that people will tend to search for alternatives on the competition which is by NO CHANCE sleeping.
I can never forget a Marketing Director I had 17 years ago that when we launched a extremelly sucessfull new and inovative product (and we were celebrating) he told us: "Look guys, this is very good, BUT they (competition) are also very good so lets nos stop here extremelly happy not thinking they will respond very agressivly".
Let us see what is Tim "made of" and I do sincerelly hope that he can continue to bring new surprises very soon.
I really don't think the new MBP's will ship this week or next week. They will not ship until the Ivy bridge dual chips are available for the 13 MBP. Which is the best selling model of the bunch by a wide margin.
They are not going to announce a redesign and only ship one or two models. It could happen but I doubt it.
They are not going to announce a redesign and only ship one or two models. It could happen but I doubt it.
There's no sign of anything big kicking off from the logistics company, Syncreon, which Apple use and who my friend works the contract for.
I highly doubt they would know. Retail outlets and shipping companies don't know jack about Apples product releases until right up to the last days before they come out. And if they did know, it's one or two people way up top who can be trusted to keep their mouths shut, not the regular employees.
If ethernet is the only stumbling block to thinness it could easily be handled. Just make a "mini-ethernet" port, just like the mini-DisplayPort and throw in the adaptor.