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Are we assuming Apple will stick to the same price points?

In October 2008 when the unibody MacBooks were introduced the 13 inch cost £949, compared to the old white MacBook which cost £699! That's why Apple sold the base model white one for quite a while after the new ones were introduced. I hope they don't do the same again.

And what exactly are you hoping?

A next-generation 13" MacBook Pro costing the same as right now would basically be a 13" MacBook Air, which is available right now and probably won't be redesigned this year.

If you want it to have something to make it more "Pro" than a MacBook Air (quad core CPU, discrete graphics, better display, extra ports, etc.) of course it will cost more.

I don't think Apple would offer a 13" MBP with SSD and much better specs than the MBA for the same price. If they don't merge both lines, the MBP will need extra stuff which aren't free.

The 13" MBP never was a real "Pro" laptop to begin with so people shouldn't feel like they're downgrading going from a 13" MBP to a MBA.

The current MBA offered an incredible value considering its hardware when it launched last year. Much more than the previous entry-level Mac laptop (white MacBook) ever did. Macs are just becoming higher end now that Apple targets the lower-end market with the iPad. IMHO, the average quality of their hardware is getting better with time so I'm not complaining.
 
I don't understand why so many people want a redesign. It's been 4 years since unibody and competitors still can't compete with Apple's design (they may be able to copy it...but not compete with it). Apple should simply take out the ODD, pop in some flash storage, upgrade the screen in some way, throw in Ivy Bridge and Kepler with better cooling somehow and ship 'er out. WTF are they going to do at WWDC anyways? "We're really excited to show you 25 new products today!"

The new Macbook Pro, Macbook Air, Mountain Lion, iOS 6, iMac.

An Ivy Bridge and a 650m --> here's my $2300 END OF STORY.

Been reading this thread for awhile now.. this is my favourite post!
 
I don't understand why so many people want a redesign. It's been 4 years since unibody and competitors still can't compete with Apple's design (they may be able to copy it...but not compete with it).

They are one of the heavier 13 inch computers on the market these days so a trim down would be nice :)
 
I don't understand why so many people want a redesign.

Agreed. The design is perfectly fine. I would be ok with the iPhone remaining the same for the next few years too.

I think some people just get bored and want change. Any MacBook Pro redesign will have me really worried. Thinner/Smaller = Less Performance.
 
Agreed. The design is perfectly fine. I would be ok with the iPhone remaining the same for the next few years too.

I think some people just get bored and want change. Any MacBook Pro redesign will have me really worried. Thinner/Smaller = Less Performance.

Charcoal is the new alu...
 
I'm still guessing on a wwdc launch. However, if they increased the 13" air screen resolution I would buy one instead of a macbook pro. That's my only real issue with the current mba.
 
Earlier I posted joking about Apple updating the MBPs and the iMacs today (May 3rd) to steal the thunder from Samsung's unveiling of the Glaxy S III. As it so happens, the iMacs last refresh WAS May 3rd, 2011.
 
I just want a new 17"

I don't care about a redesign, personally. I just want an updated 17". If they redesign the 13" and 15" to look totally awesome, but leave the 17" alone, I'll still buy it ... happily!
 
I don't care about a redesign, personally. I just want an updated 17". If they redesign the 13" and 15" to look totally awesome, but leave the 17" alone, I'll still buy it ... happily!

theyre stopping production on the 17 inch apparently. that's what i have. i pretty much bought it as a desktop replacement, and for school. its a bit big for school however, its not too bad, but it would be way more convenient if i had the 13.
 
I don't understand why so many people want a redesign. It's been 4 years since unibody and competitors still can't compete with Apple's design (they may be able to copy it...but not compete with it). Apple should simply take out the ODD, pop in some flash storage, upgrade the screen in some way, throw in Ivy Bridge and Kepler with better cooling somehow and ship 'er out. WTF are they going to do at WWDC anyways? "We're really excited to show you 25 new products today!"

The new Macbook Pro, Macbook Air, Mountain Lion, iOS 6, iMac.

An Ivy Bridge and a 650m --> here's my $2300 END OF STORY.

Because Apple are amazing at what they do, so the thought of them designing something to better their current design which, as you say, no one has been able to compete with in 4 years, makes people very excited at what they could possibly do with a new redesign. Simples.
 
theyre stopping production on the 17 inch apparently.
Who's saying that? AFAIAA, it's just a rumor (or better said, the absence of a rumor like the one there's been for a redesigned 15" model).

The main risk in losing the 17" model (at least temporarily) may come from the anticipated future use of retina displays. Going over to retina on the 17" would mean that Apple would need to provide a display with a whopping 3840 * 2400 pixels. That's over 9 million pixels in total! :eek: Such high resolution displays may still be prohibitively expensive to produce at acceptable yields.

However, I'm not at all convinced that we're going to see retina screens in the next update. Indeed, looking at the continued relatively poor availability of the new iPad (at least in Europe), it wouldn't surprise me in the least if I heard that Apple was running behind schedule on the introduction of this new technology.
 
Who's saying that? AFAIAA, it's just a rumor (or better said, the absence of a rumor like the one there's been for a redesigned 15" model).

The main risk in losing the 17" model (at least temporarily) may come from the anticipated future use of retina displays. Going over to retina on the 17" would mean that Apple would need to provide a display with a whopping 3840 * 2400 pixels. That's over 9 million pixels in total! :eek: Such high resolution displays may still be prohibitively expensive to produce at acceptable yields.

However, I'm not at all convinced that we're going to see retina screens in the next update. Indeed, looking at the continued relatively poor availability of the new iPad (at least in Europe), it wouldn't surprise me in the least if I heard that Apple was running behind schedule on the introduction of this new technology.

Will people please spouting things they know nothing about?

17" MacBook pros are already retina for normal viewing distances, pixels are not resolvable! In fact, almost all of the MacBooks are already retina or close to it, as well as the iMacs.

Please stop advising people to buy cameras based on megapixels or talking about "Retina" like you actually know what the term means!
 
Please stop advising people to buy cameras based on megapixels or talking about "Retina" like you actually know what the term means!

People are talking about pixel doubling, using the HiDPI mode on OS X. Apple will do it one day, and when they do what will they market it as? Retina.

Saying current Macs are nearly retina is stupid. Who cares if technically if you are X feet from a display of X ppi then you're eye can't resolve the yada yada yada, a 12px font looks crap on a computer compared to on a new iPad because it uses far fewer pixels to display the same characters. If you are far enough away from your computer for the text to look as paper smooth as it does on the iPad/iPhone, the text is far too small.
 
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I haven't been in the scene long enough to know, so just a simple question for those of you who have -- I'm noticing that a lot of companies like Samsung and HP are starting to unveil their new laptops with the Ivy Bridge processor. Has it always been Apple's practice to not reveal their new products until the very last second? And if so... why? Is there really any benefit to holding back their information and putting us consumers at a constant cliffhanger?

As if it's not obvious enough, there's an over-abundance of people who are just dying for any news or information *myself including, just so we can decide on whether or not to wait for the new MBP's. Personally I'm not in a dire need of a new laptop so I'm willing to wait, but lord only knows how annoyed and tired I am of waiting.
 
I haven't been in the scene long enough to know, so just a simple question for those of you who have -- I'm noticing that a lot of companies like Samsung and HP are starting to unveil their new laptops with the Ivy Bridge processor. Has it always been Apple's practice to not reveal their new products until the very last second? And if so... why? Is there really any benefit to holding back their information and putting us consumers at a constant cliffhanger?

As if it's not obvious enough, there's an over-abundance of people who are just dying for any news or information *myself including, just so we can decide on whether or not to wait for the new MBP's. Personally I'm not in a dire need of a new laptop so I'm willing to wait, but lord only knows how annoyed and tired I am of waiting.

Apple announce when the products are ready, usually you can order them the same day they are revealed. Other companies announce products months ahead which is pointless because by the time they are out they are old news. Announcing early doesn't benefit anyone.
 
I really want a Macbook Pro now, but I've waited 5 months, what's another month to me now?

I might get a Macbook Air 11" to hold me over while waiting for the new MBPs, hmmmm.
 
Has it always been Apple's practice to not reveal their new products until the very last second? And if so... why? Is there really any benefit to holding back their information and putting us consumers at a constant cliffhanger?

Yes, and one additional bennefit is that it helps sell the "old" models. I'm sure a lot less would buy a MBP when you know precisely that the next one will be out in <insert number of days>.

I've decided to wait for the sole reason of retina display. As all my trusted test-sites showed, Ivy bridge brings too small improvements (both eneergy-saving and computing power) over Sandy in spite of Intel's advertising so the decision is simple: if there's no significant resolution bump, I'll go for a Sandy (new or even Apple-refurbed).
 
Other companies announce products months ahead which is pointless because by the time they are out they are old news. Announcing early doesn't benefit anyone.

Actually there are a limited few. For example, bureaucratic and/or byzantine corporate/enterprise IT departments usually can't buy anything new without going some multi-month product acquisition cycle. If it takes months to buy something then they have to start early just to buy it when it actually ships. This is one of the reasons you typically see folks yelping about the dire need to see roadmaps months (if not years) ahead of time. The proceses involves are almost the opposite of the "If Apple announces something blindly buy it" of the folks camping out overnight ( or staying up till 3-4 a.m. to submit online order ) to get new product.
 
Is this the new Tim Cook Apple? Late refreshes?

From the MacRumors Buyer's Guide

Macbook Pro
Days since last update: 192
Average days for update: 267

You can hardly consider the MBP refresh as "late". Technically, based on averages the next MBP shouldn't be released for another 75 days, putting it somewhere around mid July. If August hits and we don't have a refresh, then you can start crying foul. But I expect the refresh in June.
 
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