completely new Quali format:
in general i like the current format, but this could be exciting, and ensures cars cannot just wait in the pit until the last minute
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I'm curious about it! The last 90 seconds is a welcome change. I think it will be more exciting and also, even though mercedes has the better car, the drivers cannot afford any mistakes to grab pole. I wonder how this elimination format will work with the current tyres though. The performance window of the pirelli's seem too small for a knockout style system but it could make it more exciting - hard to tell. I like changes though, so can't wait to see it.
I have not seen any indication of how the 'slowest' car is determined. Depending on the track and a drivers position they could be in a 'slow' section against another driver who is in a 'fast' section - which is the slowest car? Also, once a driver is eliminated presumably they have to get back to the pits, possibly hindering other drivers and not necessarily deliberately.
Slowest driver by lap time, just like last year when drivers were eliminated. Eliminated cars or cars not on a "fast lap" can always be a hinderance but they know to move out of the way or they are likely to get a penalty for the race.
it will work essentially like last year's, but instead of having the decision at the end of the session with elimination of a block of the slowest pilots, the decision is taken every minute after an initial period designed to allow the establishment of laptimes. then, every minute, the pilot with the slowest lap time is eliminated, until the end of the session
basically, it forces them to get out immediately and stay out much longer than before
I think it will make it more interesting. On a track getting faster all the time, an error will really drop you down the field.
OK, I think I understand now. So for the 'fast' drivers in the early session they can go out and put in one good lap and then just potter round (assuming they have to stay out) because they know there are enough slow cars that cannot beat their one good time and knock them out - is this correct? Or do they keep resetting the times when someone is eliminated so every lap has to count?
Somewhat. Initially yes if you are Mercedes or Ferrari, you'll go out and set a quick lap then sit back in the garage if they feel their time is safe. The end of Q3 is what's supposed to generate excitement where they keep eliminating drivers until there are two left and they will go at it in a 90 second shootout for pole.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35650699
Personally I feel this is more of a gimmick than anything else.
If you actually think about it not much is going to change other than punishing the midfield teams.
Mercedes and Ferrari will go out early and set quick times, just like last year, and be safe. Occasionally one of them might get in trouble if they make two or three mistakes, but apart from that they'll be fine.
The rest of the teams will end up sacrificing race set up to ensure they don't get embarrassed by the crap teams at the back of the grid and will suffer on race day.
While it will add a little excitement to qualifying, I really don't see it adding much to the whole season - although I would love to be proved wrong.
If you actually think about it not much is going to change other than punishing the midfield teams.
Mercedes and Ferrari will go out early and set quick times, just like last year, and be safe. Occasionally one of them might get in trouble if they make two or three mistakes, but apart from that they'll be fine.
The rest of the teams will end up sacrificing race set up to ensure they don't get embarrassed by the crap teams at the back of the grid and will suffer on race day.
While it will add a little excitement to qualifying, I really don't see it adding much to the whole season - although I would love to be proved wrong.
Why not have a seperate championship for qualifying? Or a small amount of points? That would spice it up. Cars would then set up for qualifying rather than the race to try and get points. Then they would be out of position on Sunday and we would see more overtaking.
When it comes to motorsports in general, I find that qualifying is always the weakest part.
IMHO, there are 20ish drivers in 20ish races. I think it would be really exciting if the pole position just rotated. I know that's not realistic, but imagine the last couple of years Lewis Hamilton having to climb the field. The result would likely be the same but excitement would be higher. Again, I get that's not realistic, but that would still be pretty great.
Looks like the changes to qualifying won't be introduced until race 5 due to software not being available.
I would imagine it's going to be very hectic and quite confusing when it's first introduced so they need to get the timing gear sorted.
I'm pretty sure it would be pretty easy to do. Heck I used to race radio control cars 25 years ago and we had transponders then!
meh. it seems like complete BS
i can't believe with the resources they have they can't make a simple app to wrap this up, considering they already have live timing pat down.
heck, they can just pay me and i will follow on their own site and tell them who is last at any given time.
ridiculous.
that was fun at the time, but if they were to re-do it now like that, what you would see is almost nothing for 55 minutes and everyone going out in the last 5.
the current is much better for the fans, and safer for the drivers (less crowded circuit in the last few minutes, with slow cars out noless)
the new proposed one is even more promising for the fans. hopefully they implement it right
phew... i was worried there wouldn't be any dark cars...
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LOLZ. for real.
such a wasted opportunity for a stunning car instead of this anonymous borefest
come on renault. yellow is to you what red is to ferrari. own it.
not to mention that this car would be completely invisible during races, while a bright yellow one would be in highly noticeable.
don't this people want their sponsors to be noticed?
hopefully they come to their senses by race time
i am still disappointed at the crap job Haas produced. basically looks like an old mclaren. and it also will be invisible in the pack
maybe now that renault went all stealth, they can reash the yellow-based concept that had circulated early on.
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having known many of the leading drivers from way back, I am concerned about the dopey 'promo' driven nobodies who keep on devising new circus stunts and limitations. I care far more about driver safety and see no reason why someone who risks only his manicure should impose spurious tyre changes and extraneous inflexible regulations - a race is a race, not a carnival.
posted 2016 not 2015 as tagged.
posted 2016 not 2015 as tagged.
Well, honestly, we'll know they are haas cars because they will be way behind everyone else.
the williams and the renault are my two faves right now.
in terms of aesthetics, i like williams, ferrari, sauber, and mercedes, in this order. manor is ok.
i dislike renault, mclaren, toro rosso, red bull, force india, haas. they might look nice in the official pictures with ideal lightning (at least some of them), but look terrible in racing conditions on TV, and a lot of them look like each other.
there are so many cool (and original) designs they could use, but they all converge on the same ones
The nose on several cars look almost identical. is one company making them for several teams? or just design coincidence? i like that there are several different shapes for the overhead air intake.
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Probably to do with regulations.The nose on several cars look almost identical. is one company making them for several teams? or just design coincidence? i like that there are several different shapes for the overhead air intake.
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Kimi tops the timings. Is the ice man finally back? Let's hope so. Id love to see him take it to his team mate and the Mercs.
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