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2016 MacBook Pro May Include OLED Display Touch Bar and Touch ID

pacalis said:
Oh, i misread. Ya, the rumor is for Q4. And not even the prayer of a rMBA. That's all horrible - 4 years of nothing but gimped machines. 5 years of nothing if you were looking for an upgrade on your display.

If Cook keeps putting margins in front of innovation, there are going to be no margins at all.
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What is your gimped 2015 Macbook Pro unable to do?
 
iF34R said:
This!! I can't take it being any thinner than it already is, and I most certainly don't want an even lesser of a keyboard.
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I am a "hunt & peck" typest. I can see how the butterfly keyboard would bother some people who REALLY TYPE WELL. But I remember the days when you had a CHOICE of what options and features you wanted on your computer. I think I would like the butterfly keyboard myself. But something that is THAT different in feel and touch, ought to be a choice for the consumer to make as to if you'd want it or not.
 
robeddie said:
We make those complaints because they're valid. Performance and battery life are incredibly important to some of us and always will be. But you can have your incredibly thin underpowered toy and enjoy yourself, since obviously Apple is catering to people like you, not us.

For us though, it's frustrating and sad, and will be for a while, and we're still in an era of hope (diminishing albiet) that this race for thinness will finally subside and we can enjoy thermally ideal laptops that allow for true pro power.

Don't worry, one day the last of us who remember and loved the old Apple (great power AND great design) will fade away and you and the other 'thin at all costs' fanboys won't have to listen to us.

Chao.
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Underpowered? What can't your Macbook Pro do? The 2015 models are more powerful than what probably 98% of people need - are you part of the 2%?
 
MacRumors said:



Apple plans to introduce a revamped high-end MacBook Pro this year that'll include a thinner and lighter form factor, Touch ID and a new OLED display touch bar above the keyboard, according to a new report from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. The new MacBook Pro would come in 13- and 15-inch variations and arrive in the fourth quarter of 2016.

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Kuo calls the new MacBook Pro updates the "most significant upgrade ever undertaken by Apple." The new "thin and light" design will be helped by new metal injection mold-made hinges and the butterfly-mechanism keyboards that debuted in the 12-inch MacBook. There has been speculation Apple would introduce Touch ID to MacBooks and, in the meantime, Apple engineers are working on a way users could unlock their Macs with Touch ID on iPhone.

The 12-inch MacBook will also be joined by a 13-inch MacBook, according to Kuo. The analyst believes that Apple will move forward with all three MacBook lines this year, with the MacBook Pro occupying the high-end slot, the MacBook will replace the Air as the medium-level model and the MacBook Air will serve as an entry-level model with comparatively low prices.

In April, it was reported that the new MacBook Pros would see slimmer designs and new hinges. Additionally, speculation indicated the new MacBook Pros could adopt Thunderbolt 3 with USB-C. Today's report confirms both rumors. Apple's refreshed MacBook Pros are also expected to sport faster Skylake processors, with the top-of-the-line MacBook Pros also sporting AMD's new 400-series Polaris graphics chips.

Article Link: 2016 MacBook Pro May Include OLED Display Touch Bar and Touch ID
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Sigh... *

Thinner? Really Apple? Really? So I guess the next Pro laptop is going to come with the POS KB the MacBook ships with? Thanks, but no thanks.

Sigh...

Seriously... I really want to sneek into Apple and force feed the Pro laptops (and the iMac and Mac mini) some BBQ Pork ASAP... and biscuits and gravy.. and gnocchi.. and a few pounds of fresh mozzarella...and biscotti...

And git off my lawn, or I'll beat you over the head with my 7+lb PowerBook G3!!!!


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asfdasdf said:
Macrumors, the place where people want bulkier hardware and dedicated top graphics in a laptop that can't run engineering programs nor games because of its OS.
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So the MBP is only good for word processing and social media? Do people really need a $2500 laptop for that or should it do more?
 
bookwormsy said:
I wonder if they'd have mDP/TB2 in addition to TB3? I hope so.
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Nope, but they'll sell you a handy $30 adaptor to get you there ;-)
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polbit said:
For once, Apple, DON'T make the Pro thinner. Make it quieter/cooler instead. For once! I'm so tired of my current MBP being a vacuum cleaner/oven every time I so much as watch a Youtube video. We DON'T need thinner in the Pro line! Save that for the Macbook line, the Air line.
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Amen!

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Chupa Chupa said:
To me the key differentiator between the MBP and all other Mac laptops is the wider array of built-in i/o ports and the discrete video option. But only the top end 15" MBP has discrete video, so truly the array of built-in ports is the difference. The MB and MBA are razor thin BUT very limited built-in i/o. So I hope this rumored haircut for MBP does not take it in the same neutered port direction as those two laptops because I would like a new MBP where "P" is for Pro not Plus.
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God, I hadn't thought about that.
Now I am genuinely frightened that they will replace the HDMI, power, TB2 and USB3 with USB C 3.1 ports
HDMI I was skeptical of at first, but I have ended up using it frequently when presenting onsite at various unfamiliar locations. And the TB standard has worked very well for me in terms of both bandwidth, and seamless connectivity with other standards like firewire and ethernet.
Please Apple don't mess with what works, as you have done elsewhere. Just make it faster.
 
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This Touch Bar thing sounds a little gimicky:

http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/5062-x-keys-xks-04-fully-programmable-keyboard-stick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Maximus_keyboard

while these are real keyboards with keys. They do strike me that as a feature it would not be a pure enough feature which would survive long term on MacBook Pro platform.

I would like to have a touch screen, so when I run VMWare Windows I can use it like a PC and when developing iOS apps in simulator I can use the emulated iPad with touch.
 
Rigby said:
Couldn't agree more. The MBP is the best computer Apple has left (and really the only one still worth buying right now IMO). Please don't ruin it with the weirdo keyboard from the Macbook. The "butterfly" mechanism is fine, but the keyboard in a "pro" model needs real key travel.
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Hear here!

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pgwalsh said:
When I read OLED I thought they were going to incorporate an OLED screen, which would be quite nice. Then as many have pointed out it says "OLED display touch bar above the keyboard." So essentially we're waiting to Q4 for a faster Skylake processor and AMD Graphics.

Here's an idea. Why not make them a bit bigger and more rugged. How about making them water resistant. While we're at it, make room for 2 SSD's. Just some thought on how to add some value.
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.. and 16GB ram standard, user upgradable to 32GB... yes.. all that..

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apolloa said:
So are Intel going to launch a suitable Kaby Lake for the MacBook Pro before next month then? Considering they are currently laying off 11% of their workforce, have scrapped all their Intel Atom processor work, and delayed by several months the Sky Lake processors that are suitable for the MacBook Pro line?

I am pretty confident that if YOU want to want for Kaby Lake you will be waiting until next year before they make a chip Apple can use.

I would personally rather have Sky Lake now.
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Not all is blue at Intel.
The bigger question is, if the yields of Cannon is higher than Kaby will Intel ditch the 14nm in favor of the 10nm? Or delay Cannon.
My next MBP purchase will hinge on the ports more so than the processor.
Not really interested in carrying an array of adapters
 
Pablo.A.Pucci said:
The important things in the all New Macbook Pro is:
  1. Top of the Line Polaris GPU (I hope an need that Apple put at least 4 GB VRAM to Edit 4K Video)
  2. I hope and need 32 GB RAM Capacity
  3. I hope and need 4K (OLED Display)
  4. I hope and need Thunderbolt 3
  5. I hope an need a touch ID (tired of writing my password)
  6. Butterfly keyboard will add more precission to the computer.
The thiner and lighter form factor it give us more comfort. I hope that this feature doesn't give away durability and rigidness.
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All this hoping and needing when you can simply find a Windows 10 laptop with most of those specs.....
 
farewelwilliams said:
ew. i do not want to look down on the keyboard to make sure i pressed mission control on the touch bar accurately
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You are honestly telling me you can do it without looking now? Besides, who uses those buttons for that when you have gestures on the touchpad....
 
What's this? Another thread full of the incessant whining of hundreds of know-it-alls that, once again, need to be dragged into the future kicking and screaming, just like Apple has done for 40 years. Quelle surprise.
 
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Looking forward to the next gen. It should be interesting. Hopefully they don't increase the price.
 
dannys1 said:
Some points here, the PCI-E's are already so fast in rMBP's you're not going see any difference from a performance - they're already topping out at 1800MB/s read and write - thats insane - its 4x the speed of what was considered a super fast SSD 3-4 years ago that saturated (and still does) any Sata bus. You're not going to see any real world difference from 2000, 2500 or 3000 MB/s, other parts are now what slows down the boot speed and unless all you do is duplicate large files all day you're not going to see any difference in file copy time.

Faster and more ram? Again I question what tasks you're doing that could possibly max out even 16gb of ram, nevermind 32. I have 32 in my iMac and use it for actual music composing with multi-gigabye libraries but the SSD is so fast it doesn't even need to load those libraries into ram anymore. You're again, not going to see any real world OS X performance difference with fast ram either - we've plateaued on all these points now. I multi-task like an idiot on my Macbook Pro, I have 45+ tabs open in Safari, plus I have Chrome with 10+ and Firefox open at all times for testing in different browsers, I have Pixelmator, Photoshop, Calcbot, Mail (with 60,000 e-mails in it), Clear, Evernote, Calendar, iTunes, Spotify, Numbers, Tweetbot, Tor, Whatsapp, Skype, Messages, Terminal, Coda 2, Transmit, Deliveries and a hanful of other apps open all the time - and i'm using barely more than a quarter of the 16gb of ram available on my rMBP.

You talk about gimmicks and then mention 4k screens. You realise its barely possible for the eye to tell the difference on a 50" screen from normal viewing distances with 4k, let alone a 15" screen. We're already at imperceivable retina resolution - the resolution does NOT need to go up anymore on a 15" Macbook - we need to deal with colour accuracy, gamut, OLED screens (that need to come a long way yet before they improve on LCD's outright), linear all over performance, power efficiency - resolution is the one thing that doesn't need upgrading and if they did that really would be a pointless gimmick that just saps power from your battery cycles unnecessarily and wastes GPU performance for no added benefit to the end users - hell most of the internet still hasn't even caught up with retina resolutions yet (as I look at my blurry profile picture on MacRumors for instance)

While I can't say i'm too bothered by the two aforementioned features of Touch ID and and a OLED touch strip (although we've not seen how well they might be implemented yet) its things like this that will pull in more users that upping any of the above i've mentioned that have now reached a point that wont make a jot of difference to the end users daily working. If anything its the raw processor power thats lagging behind now - the PCI-E flash loads faster than the CPU can process the OS booting (not that I ever shutdown and cold boot mind)
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Well, speaking for myself, my 2012 13"MBP can use up to 12GB out of 16 just with Chrome alone. If I wanna run a virtual machine it's night time to my browser (and the VM is only using 6GB, so 16GB overall should be more than enough.)
 
Would it be a big deal if Apple went back to the older pre-Retina chassis for the MacBook Pro for a change? The company could for a change utilize newer low power XEON processors like those used in HP Z books. These would be Pro's used for technical work, not some hipster at Star Bucks who only browses Facebook, Tweets and edits cat videos. If you check out the following article, NASA is only using HP Z Books with Windows 10 Enterprise and Debian Jessie, maxed out too.

Apple has become too focused on the consumer market and it has backfired in way. Look at the state of their Pro apps, they no longer create Aperture, Final Cut X is basically in sunset mode. Apple needs to get back into engineering where it enjoyed a lot of respect when it came out with the Titanium Powerbooks.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article...lolens-the-tech-space-station-astronauts-use/
 
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