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2016 MacBook Pro May Include OLED Display Touch Bar and Touch ID

alvesik said:
Usb 3 anyone? It better appear because I've never heard of anything as ridiculous as someone not being able to plug in a year old iPhone to Apple's flagship computer without an adapter
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You will need 2 adapters - if you want to use USB and SD card. No mention of disappearing Magsafe. They have adapters for that as well. That would make 3.

Seems Apple is more interested in selling adapters.
 
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Voley said:
So the force touch trackpad is awful, retina display is awful, thinner device is awful, any innovation is awful.

If it were up to you we would still be using floppies on Apple II
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I don't think that is what OP was saying at all. How do you conflate his dislike for the butterfly keyboard with any other recent feature? Also just because people get use to an unwanted "improvement" in a product doesn't mean it suddenly becomes fantastic.

Innovation isn't awful, but change is not always terrific either. Everything must be judged on its own merits not that it's the latest thing out.
 
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Many companies tried and failed to get the display touch bar thing right. Let's hope Apple can do the magic.
 
dannys1 said:
Again I question what tasks you're doing that could possibly max out even 16gb of ram, nevermind 32
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Virtualization. On my Mac Pro I have VMWare Fusion machines for 10.6 (Server), 10.7, 10.8, 10.9, Win7 Pro, Win 8.1 Pro and (ugh) Windows 10. A Lenovo running Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 has VMs for Win Servers 2008R2 (x2) and 2012R2 (x2). Not all are running simultaneously, of course, but depending on the task it's great to be able to test systems & code on multiple versions of each OS without rebooting, and to test the effects of server changes on multiple client versions in real-time without having racks of hardware: a "trash can" Mac Pro, a generic Lenovo tower and a HP zBook 17 G2 is all I need ... it's a really nice working model.
 
cdarlington1 said:
Nice additions. Would rather see crazy video cards and cores and power but hey, touch ID, what's not to like. sigh....
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Yes, but shouldn't a "pro" computer first be built for performance and then sprinkle on the eye candy with whatever $ is left. I mean it's great to own a 2016 Mustang, but what is the point if it's underpowered and just looks pretty? It's not a museum piece.
 
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polbit said:
For once, Apple, DON'T make the Pro thinner. Make it quieter/cooler instead. For once! I'm so tired of my current MBP being a vacuum cleaner/oven every time I so much as watch a Youtube video. We DON'T need thinner in the Pro line! Save that for the Macbook line, the Air line.
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Perhaps you should get your MBP checked. I don't hear my fans unless I'm using FCP intensively... and my MBP is 3 years older than yours and sports half the RAM.
 
Well, I am glad I just put a SSD in my macbook pro 2.9i7. Can't say I am in love with the rumors of apples new lineup.
 
dannys1 said:
Faster and more ram? Again I question what tasks you're doing that could possibly max out even 16gb of ram, nevermind 32. I have 32 in my iMac and use it for actual music composing with multi-gigabye libraries but the SSD is so fast it doesn't even need to load those libraries into ram anymore. You're again, not going to see any real world OS X performance difference with fast ram either - we've plateaued on all these points now. I multi-task like an idiot on my Macbook Pro, I have 45+ tabs open in Safari, plus I have Chrome with 10+ and Firefox open at all times for testing in different browsers, I have Pixelmator, Photoshop, Calcbot, Mail (with 60,000 e-mails in it), Clear, Evernote, Calendar, iTunes, Spotify, Numbers, Tweetbot, Tor, Whatsapp, Skype, Messages, Terminal, Coda 2, Transmit, Deliveries and a hanful of other apps open all the time - and i'm using barely more than a quarter of the 16gb of ram available on my rMBP.
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I find that hard to believe. You're forgetting to include OS X that also takes up RAM as well. It's the OS on top of everything. I have 10 GB of RAM now ( just recently beefed it up ) and I can open up Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Manga Studio, Sketchbook Pro, Pixelmator ( I have that too ) and what not all in the same time and they usually go close to about 5 to 6 GB combined.

Photoshop is notorious for being RAM hungry, keep in mind, regardless if it's the Creative Cloud or older versions. At this moment of writing on my iMac, I have 3.68 GB of memory left. And that is just with Safari opened. I'm using the Memory Clean app to monitor the usage of RAM and that's exactly what I'm seeing.

I have 3GB of App Memory and nearly 3GB of File Cache going on at this moment. Before I had 6GB of RAM, if this was the case, it would limit the ability to open more apps.

If I have 16 GB of RAM right now, it would probably have about 6 GB of storage left open. So in your case with all these apps open in the same time, it would go dangerously near 8 to 10 GB of RAM, choking your system. I do visual design/art as my profession so I understand how software, files, and the OS combined can take up RAM.

Then I open up Activity Monitor on my iMac and see a similar thing. Physical memory: 10 GB, Memory used: 5.50 GB, Virtual Memory: 10 GB.

App Memory: 2.71 GB, File Cache: 1.91 GB, Wired Memory, 885.9 mb. The results are close.

So what I'm saying is that all these apps you opened up on your rMBP are more likely to go past more than half of your 16 GB of RAM. Not a quarter. If you closed Photoshop, Pixelmator, iTunes, Spotify and other RAM hungry apps, then the number would drop significantly.
 
delegagtor said:
How having a 13" Macbook in addition to a 12" in the same line would make sense is beyond me.

And since when does repeating a rumor equate to "confirming" it?
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The price of the 12" is already high enough. Who would pay that much more for a 13"?

tkermit said:
That does look pretty bad. :eek:


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I have something similar on my Dell laptop, and I use it often. I'm interested to see what Apple can pull off.
 
goaliefight said:
The butterfly keyboard is AWFUL. No way I would ever buy another MBP if they go to that. It would kill me to get rid of my Mac, but the butterfly keyboard is akin to the hockey puck mouse -- except you can't just go buy a different one because it's builtin.
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What don't you like about it? My wife loves her's, says its the best keyboard she has ever used. - I haven't had a chance to really try it out for myself.
 
Wouldn't it be cool if Apple made an old school thick laptop incorporating one or two Xeon E3-1500M v5 chips (portable Xeon) with more than the usual number of ports? Maybe even a replaceable battery again. Heck, maybe even a fuel cell power supply as a second battery! Luggable MacPro power! MacPro Portable -tm.

Don't set it on your lap!

Why pay less?

Some of those developments can shift down over time to iMac and MacBook Pro.
 
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God the top comments are atrocious. the haters always assuming everything they read either sucks, or could have been done better. it's pathetic. wait and see how it works then complain.
 
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Rocketman said:
Wouldn't it be cool if Apple made an old school thick laptop incorporating one or two Xeon E3-1500M v5 chips (portable Xeon) with more than the usual number of ports? Maybe even a replaceable battery again. Heck, maybe even a fuel cell power supply as a second battery! Luggable MacPro power!
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[doublepost=1464101201][/doublepost]Any news of a G5 Powerbook yet?
 
asfdasdf said:
Oh buah buah poor boy he has to wait some weeks for buying a luxury toy, because, you know, he desperately needs it :rolleyes:
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Yeah, I toy I make all of my living with. I've been wanting to upgrade a couple of years now (Mac mini pathetically underpowered for my needs, Mac pro - overpriced and about 3 years outdated). The reason Apple does not offer anything reasonable for creative pros is why I'm more and more pissed off about this iToy penny pincher company. But don't worry, I'm 90% decided to ditch toys and switch to a powerful Windows 10 workstation this summer (Intel X99 6/8 core, Samsung Pro SSDs, Nvidia GTX1080, Acer 34" WQHD ultrawide 100Hz IPS matte monitor). WWDC is the last hope (for me) if there is any reason to still stick with Mac at all (I might still buy a MBP).
 
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Voley said:
So the force touch trackpad is awful, retina display is awful, thinner device is awful, any innovation is awful.

If it were up to you we would still be using floppies on Apple II
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The butterfly keyboard is not an innovation. It is an awful compromise arrived at due to a wish to make a thin computer. But to type on - you know: what I spend most of my time doing on my laptop - it is truly AWFUL.
 
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Fellas no need to complain about the new keyboard until you actually try the new magic keyboard which is much better than the one on the retina macbook. Trust me the difference is night and day.

I'm assuming the pro will get the better one of course.
 
gsmornot said:
We could use the smart connector of the iPad Pro to connect to the base of the MacBook. When connected, we use the processor and drives of the MacBook and the touch screen and touch ID of the iPad Pro. Once you remove the iPad Pro from the Mac base it is your standard iPad Pro with all your data already synced via the smart connector. All other work is updated via iCloud until the two are joined again and syncing real time. This would give a MacBook with @ 13" retina display that is powerful when needed and ultra portable when on the go. The display portion would be powered by the iPad internal battery to give the Mac base longer life. Once the Mac power supply was connected it would power and charge both units. Just an idea.
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So... a Surface Book, then?
 
Spectrum said:
The butterfly keyboard is not an innovation. It is an awful compromise arrived at due to a wish to make a thin computer. But to type on - you know: what I spend most of my time doing on my laptop - it is truly AWFUL.
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There can be innovations you don't like, you know?
 
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