*SIGH*
Looks like I'll be holding onto my trusty 2011 17" MBP (that I actually bought in 2011) even longer.
Five years, Apple. FIVE years of NOTHING I want. Of nothing to replace my 17".
(I think) I can live with an unnecessarily thin device and dongle-hell at the expense of dedicated Ethernet and other standard/useful ports, reasonable storage capacity (for large file, e.g. 4k video, etc), and expandability.
I. Just. Don't. Want. To. Downsize.
Apple, you went big with EVERYTHING ELSE (well, iOS at least).
Build a goddam 17" MBP already!!!
I'm with you. 7+ years on my 17". Battery is garbage, and it doesn't like to power up for at least 4 tries, but I am not giving up on a 4k screen. It's so simple... 3840, retina 2x 1920, and 3x 1280. I don't care if the laptop is 13 or 15, or 17 even. But it's 4k or no sale.
It would be completely appropriate if they included that hand-gesture bar in the base, too. That's a game-changer.