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Has anyone noticed that Apple's keynote stated 2-3 week shipping times, but the minute the store went live, it stated November 17th as the earliest date. The window is actually 3-4 weeks, so technically, Apple lied about the two week timeframe, or it may ship way earlier than expected.
I noticed that too. I also assumed that was the shipping differential. My order was within 15 min of the site being live. I did a chat to check on something with my order and the guy said something like 'hopefully sooner' when reciting the delivery. There has been lots of crazy storms. My theory is they don't want to overcommit logistics. 11/10 is my hope!

I've already notified my credit card. I have two ordered - one for my college grad student daughter.

Anyone know how they ship in the USA? I'm thinking it's fedex but hoping its brown.
 
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I noticed that too. I also assumed that was the shipping differential. My order was within 15 min of the site being live. I did a chat to check on something with my order and the guy said something like 'hopefully sooner' when reciting the delivery. There has been lots of crazy storms. My theory is they don't want to overcommit logistics. 11/10 is my hope!

I've already notified my credit card. I have two ordered - one for my college grad student daughter.

Anyone know how they ship in the USA? I'm thinking it's fedex but hoping its brown.

I don't know how they ship MacBooks, but all of the iPhones and iPads I've ordered have been delivered by UPS. Total speculation but I'm guessing they'll starting delivering early in the week of 11/14. Hopefully sooner though.
 
Ordered the following:

Silver 13" MacBook Pro
Non-Touch ID/Bar
2.0GHz i5
16GB RAM
512GB SSD

I thought a lot about spending the extra $300 or so for the model with the touch bar but decided against it for now. I can afford the extra cost, but it's not worth it to me at this point. First, I use a Mac mini at the office and my 2012 15" rMBP in desktop clamshell mode at home. After being on 27" screens over the past few years no matter how cool the new touch bar is I'm not going to a 13" screen when I'm not on the move, which is 70% of the time.

Second, my portable machine is a 2016 MacBook which I love (previously had a 2015 model). This new MacBook Pro is replacing the 12" and I've had no problems without the touch bar for the past year. I'll be fine without it for a year or two.

Third, if this new MBP is on par with my current rMBP, which I believe it will be for my use (writing, word processing, web coding, minimal photo/video editing, light gaming), I can sell the rMBP and my current MacBook and actually come out with some extra cash. The MBP can be my desktop at home and road machine, and in that case I would barely use the touch bar because I'd have it in clamshell mode at home most of the time.

Lastly, I'm betting that next year's version of the touch bar will include haptic feedback and have any kinks worked out, which would make it more appealing.
 
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Ordered mine today. 3-4 weeks but that's fine.

Originally ordered top 15" 2.7ghz. However just cancelled and ordered the lower spec 2.6ghz with SSD and GPU upgrades.

  • 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
  • 16GB 2133MHz DEEDEERRRTHREE SDRAM
  • Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB VRAM
  • 512GB PCIe-based SSD
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports

The price difference was £8 between the two. Although the 2.7ghz processor has 8mb L3, I'm thinking in real world use the 50% better graphics will be more useful than a 5-10% (Generous) increase in the CPU? Seems about right anyway, and a better trade-off!

Mainly do 2D design these days, occasionally 3D/CAD. Can live with a slightly slower render over improved viewport framerates.
 
That is lame. Not sure.
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ssong it is very underpowered! I hate it so far!!!

Cheers for the update, that makes me more confident about my choice haha

@volcomvenom

When you say its underpowered, what are you actually doing on it? and what ware you comparing it to?

I wouldn't have thought the difference in performance between the non touch 2.0 GHZ model and the 2.9 ghz in the base 13 with the touchbar would be particularly noticeable in day to day tasks given the performance of the SSD.
 
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Ordered mine today. 3-4 weeks but that's fine.

Originally ordered top 15" 2.7ghz. However just cancelled and ordered the lower spec 2.6ghz with SSD and GPU upgrades.

  • 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
  • 16GB 2133MHz DEEDEERRRTHREE SDRAM
  • Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB VRAM
  • 512GB PCIe-based SSD
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
The price difference was £8 between the two. Although the 2.7ghz processor has 8mb L3, I'm thinking in real world use the 50% better graphics will be more useful than a 5-10% (Generous) increase in the CPU? Seems about right anyway, and a better trade-off!

Mainly do 2D design these days, occasionally 3D/CAD. Can live with a slightly slower render over improved viewport framerates.
Wait, you ordered the lower-spec model because of £8 difference?? Not sure I understand your logic.
 
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I noticed that too. I also assumed that was the shipping differential. My order was within 15 min of the site being live. I did a chat to check on something with my order and the guy said something like 'hopefully sooner' when reciting the delivery. There has been lots of crazy storms. My theory is they don't want to overcommit logistics. 11/10 is my hope!

I've already notified my credit card. I have two ordered - one for my college grad student daughter.

Anyone know how they ship in the USA? I'm thinking it's fedex but hoping its brown.


They ship FedEx
 
You don't just lose 0.1 GHz. The 2.7 has 8MB of L3 Cache compared to the 2.6's 6MB of L3 Cache. That will definitely help with multitasking and high intensity applications.

Also maybe it's just me, but I feel more confident in choosing the more expensive with just the graphics upgrade than choosing the cheaper with storage and graphics upgrade. It's possible there are some other differences between the two that Apple isn't specifying, like how the 13 inch only has 2/4 USB-C ports capable of full speed and the iPhone 7 32 GB has much slower storage speeds than the other capacities. There's always those little things that Apple doesn't publically let people know.
This x 1000 times
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Gotta be a typo, the difference is closer to £80.
Must be. The difference in US is $100. Still think it's worth paying $100 to get the extra 0.1GHz, bigger cache, and whatnot. Knowing Apple, there are other little spec differences that they didn't reveal to the public. Get a peace of mind for $100 extra.
 
Wait, you ordered the lower-spec model because of £8 difference?? Not sure I understand your logic.

Yes. Base 15" with upgrades over top 15". Bolded the difference, was £10 in it sorry. Seems like a better purchase for real world situations. Cost for top end (EDU) is £2,428.80, lower end upgraded is
£2,438.40. I get what you're saying with the cache but I don't think it would provide more than 5% difference in CPU performance. Processors likely these too?

  • 2.7GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 (8MB L3)
  • 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
  • Radeon Pro 455 with 2GB VRAM
  • 512GB PCIe-based SSD

  • 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 (6MB L3)
  • 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
  • Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB VRAM (From 450 2GB)
  • 512GB PCIe-based SSD (From 256GB)
 
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Does anyone have any idea if previous MacBook releases were ever shipped earlier than their announced ship date?
 
@volcomvenom

When you say its underpowered, what are you actually doing on it? and what ware you comparing it to?

I wouldn't have thought the difference in performance between the non touch 2.0 GHZ model and the 2.9 ghz in the base 13 with the touchbar would be particularly noticeable in day to day tasks given the performance of the SSD.
HDR EFEX PRO. tasks, processing HDR photos.
 
My 2014 MBP is 2.6GHZ i5 dual core. So is the new 13 inch (sans bar) worse? It's "2.0GHz dual-core Intel Core i5".

Clock speed isn't the only metric. The first consumer grade 3GHz CPU came FOURTEEN years ago. There's so much more to CPU's these days. That said, we'll have to wait to see the benchmarks (Geekbench doesn't have any listed on their website yet) to see if it is indeed slower. However, if it is slower; I doubt very much it's significantly slower.

EDIT: Benchmarks are in; and indeed the 2.0GHz CPU in the new 13" MacBook Pro is faster than the 2.6GHz chip in the previous generation.


Ordered the base 15" with 256gb SSD/450 GPU. Was considering upgrading GPU but +$200 is just too much when I already went way over my budget.

I totally get the budget thing; but it's worth mentioning that the 460 is actually twice as fast as the 450, and with twice the VRAM (very important for games and some applications). That's why a lot of us went with it.
 
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With Thunderbolt 3, an external drive is essentially just as fast as an internal one. You can buy a 3.5" form factor SSD and slap it in a Thunderbolt 2 enclosure; or Thunderbolt 3 when those become available (they might already). Or, if raw storage is your game, a RAID array. Either way; you can either get the same 512GB bump in storage (albeit in an external form factor) for less money; or get even MORE storage for the same money. Of course, internal storage is great; but most folks who need lots of storage need it for something specific (photos, videos, etc.), often times which can be offloaded onto an external drive.
Another potential alternative, is one of these, assuming a USB-C version comes out:
https://www.sandisk.com/home/usb-flash/ultra-fit-usb
I had a SD-type device that stuck out about that much on my last laptop, and I didn't even notice it after a week.
 
I totally get the budget thing; but it's worth mentioning that the 460 is actually twice as fast as the 450, and with twice the VRAM (very important for games and some applications). That's why a lot of us went with it.
Its still not that great of a graphics card though. If i want to game there are much better options to go with it. I chose the 450 because i wanted the one that would use the least power and wont heat up or spins the fans too much
 
Just note the write speed is awfull on those drive.
True, probably only good for storing documents/media files or such. Hopefully future USB-C ones will be higher-capacity and faster. 128GB for $29 is pretty sweet though!
 
Its still not that great of a graphics card though. If i want to game there are much better options to go with it. I chose the 450 because i wanted the one that would use the least power and wont heat up or spins the fans too much
Well it depends on you. I bought the base 15 :p with the maximum 2.9 i7 processor and the maximum 460 GPU. The only reason I went base is because 256 GB is fine for me
 
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Well it depends on you. I bought the base 15 :p with the maximum 2.9 i7 processor and the maximum 460 GPU. The only reason I went base is because 256 GB is fine for me
I did the opposite and went with 512 gb lol. Wanted to go with 1tb but decided not to
 
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