2016 Macbook Pro, Order/Shipping Thread

[DVNIEL]

Cancelled my original order for a baseline 13" space gray and got the baseline 15" space grey. Yeah I pushed the shipment up a week but I'd rather get the model I really wanted. Specs aren't too much of a bother it's the screen real estate that is critical for my sanity and comparing documents and images side by side.

 

[Taylor-C]

After going back and forth between all of the different options, I finally decided to get a spec'd out 15" in Space Grey.

2.9GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz
16GB 2133MHz memory
2TB PCIe-based SSD
Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB memory

Will end up costing £3037.00 (as I can get student discount and can then claim the VAT back at my next VAT quarter).

Ships 3-4 weeks, delivery estimate 28 November to 5 December.

I also plan to get AppleCare at some point, but didn't opt to get it with the MacBook.
Now I need to go buy a few extra cables and adapters...

 

[el-John-o]

I don't know why but I feel 13" is a waste of money, you guys waited so long for this laptop and still buying an i5 and a low GPU. If you don't want an expensive one right now then save money and buy it next year with kaby lake processors :3

There's no guarantee, at all, there will be a new model next year. While the GPU industry is on fire as of late as manufacturers scramble to meet gamers demands for VR and 4k; the CPU industry is moving at a snails pace relative to years past.

Kaby Lake is not a faster chip than the current model. It is a bit more energy efficient. IF there's a refresh next year (and Apple doesn't just wait for the next, FASTER generation of Intel CPU); it may be an update to Kaby Lake but the 2017 models won't actually be faster than the 2016 models.

We could ALWAYS "wait" for the faster machines. The same is true for iPhones, iPads, and everything else. If I always waited for next years features I'd never own anything!

 

[Barnfather]

We also need to remember that it's not just about power and capability. Let's face it - even the base models are extraordinarily cable machines for 90% of peoples uses.

It's about form factor.

I have an iMac as part of a music production set-up, so this MBP really is for the kitchen table to browse, watch video write, do basic gaming (I tend to play poker quite a bit) and do some music 'sketching' with before moving over to my full music workstation. I really don't need a big screen or larger footprint. In fact, the 13" footprint is ideal for me - I can take it around the house easily, and if need be stick in a backpack and barely know it's there.

There seems to be a race to max out every spec on the new laptops. Now, if thats what people can afford and need then that's great, more power to them. But there are specific advantages to the 13" for many of us, which are nothing to do with running dedicated GPU's, or the revision model name of the CPU.

 

[darkbrain85]

I don't know why but I feel 13" is a waste of money, you guys waited so long for this laptop and still buying an i5 and a low GPU. If you don't want an expensive one right now then save money and buy it next year with kaby lake processors :3

A waste of money? I'm using a 13" late 2013 and it has always enough power for all day use. CPU's are not the bottleneck anymore.

We also need to remember that it's not just about power and capability. Let's face it - even the base models are extraordinarily cable machines for 90% of peoples uses.

It's about form factor.

I have an iMac as part of a music production set-up, so this MBP really is for the kitchen table to browse, watch video write, do basic gaming (I tend to play poker quite a bit) and do some music 'sketching' with before moving over to my full music workstation. I really don't need a big screen or larger footprint. In fact, the 13" footprint is ideal for me - I can take it around the house easily, and if need be stick in a backpack and barely know it's there.

There seems to be a race to max out every spec on the new laptops. Now, if thats what people can afford and need then that's great, more power to them. But there are specific advantages to the 13" for many of us, which are nothing to do with running dedicated GPU's, or the revision model name of the CPU.

Full agree! My late 2016 rMBP 13" is a extremely nice notebook. Very small and more than enough power for all day use. dGPU is not useful in many use cases. And gaming with 15" dGPU. Not really a good option. Its far away from a "gamer GPU".
I'm really happy to get a Touch Bar and USB-C. Just one cable and my 37" WQHD Display ist connected to my Macbook. And with this one cable, all other devices an my desk are connected too. So this "little" Macbook turns in a Desktop "Workstation" wich will be able to deal with things like Lightroom, Final Cut, Xcode and casual gaming.
The new 13" Macbook is far away fron being to slow for 4K editing or photo editing. And running a few virtual machines is also no problem with 16 GB RAM.

So I want to know: What are the whiny guys doing with their Notebook that they have to buy the biggest and most expensive Notebook? I think only a few of them are able to use the power of the new Macbook. But maybe all of them working in the special effects industrie where CPU and GPU power are needed... But i don't think so...

 

[achad]

We also need to remember that it's not just about power and capability. Let's face it - even the base models are extraordinarily cable machines for 90% of peoples uses.
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Is this not the Pro Mac Book version we're talking about?
5 year old laptop may surfice with those demands also. The previous version most certainly would.
Im delighted the new MBP specs and form factor suit 90% of people. I'd be curious to know if the MB or airs would also fit their purposes minus the status symbol and new non essential gizmos.
You pays your monies and get what you want. I'm generally delighted people have placed orders and I hope they are are very happy.
I'm sure the build quality will remain legendary, the screen looks lovely, I'm even excited about the touch bar. But the specs to choose from does not put this laptop into the 'pro stats' IMHO.

 

[vatter69]

To each their own. Even if i'd like to have a quad core, i prefer the form factor of the 13" more.

I read that in 2-3 years Intel will release a quad core with less than 30 Watt TDP which would be suitable for the 13". Until then i will make good use of the 3.1 Ghz dualcore in my new Macbook.

 

[FrankySavvy]

Hopefully as per usual Apple is being conservative with estimating shipping dates, hopefully will get these babies a bit sooner, there is no hold on these guys like the iPhone so maybe mid November deliveries for most? Fingers crossed!

 

[mattburley7]

does anyone know here if i change ship to a different address if it will change my delivery estimate from nov 17-25th?

 

[Gixene]

via Imgflip Meme Generator

This really happened. I woke up yesterday morning to a text from the card issuer of a suspicious charge and the card was closed because of it. Called Apple and payment arrangements between Apple and a different card issuer. I have a grey hair now to match my space grey MacBook Pro.

 

[SeanG1027]

Does the 15 inch 2.6ghz use the i7-6770HQ or the i7-6700HQ? On Apple.com it say it includes Intel HD 530 graphics but the 6770 uses Iris Pro 580. This isn't a big deal as I BTO'd one with the 460 dGPU, just want some clarification. Also on Intel's website, 2133mhz RAM is only available in DDR4. Why does Apple state it has DDR3? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Barnfather]

Is this not the Pro Mac Book version we're talking about?
5 year old laptop may surfice with those demands also. The previous version most certainly would.
Im delighted the new MBP specs and form factor suit 90% of people. I'd be curious to know if the MB or airs would also fit their purposes minus the status symbol and new non essential gizmos.

Probably. Not really the point though.

The 'pro' element really just distinguishes the higher-end laptop range from the lower-end (if you can call a £1k computer 'lower end'). The Air is essentially toast now that the base 13" MBP is there, so really there are just two choices for everyone, consumer AND pro's.... A MacBook with a 12" screen, or a MacBook Pro.

I don't have numbers to back this up, but I imagine the percentage of MBP users that are genuinely using the machine for heavy-duty pro-level app's to be pretty small and many of those people will probably gravitate towards the Mac Pro or a maxed-out iMac just as much as they would a laptop.

But web designers are pro users, as are authors, as are people using the machine for spreadsheets and presentations. None of these people NEED a maxed-out MBP although some may prefer the screen real-estate of the 15". I happily run music production software linked into a workstation (Akai MPC, Turntables, External Monitors, Keyboards etc) on a 2011 non-maxed out iMac. The base model MBP would easily cope with this too, albeit with a few headaches about lack of USB. For ALL these people, as well as the consumers who will use it for more casual use, it's far more about the form factor than the CPU/GPU spec.

I do have some sympathy for genuine power users - those editing film and requiring optimal rendering time, hardcore graphic designers and people using the computer in full music studio's, and for those a maxed-out MBP is a wise choice.

As for 'non essential gizmos', I assume you are referring to the touch-bar. Well, I don't think that is a 'need' in anyone's book at the moment, but it's certainly an attractive 'gizmo' for everyone I would have thought. And has the potential to become a more essential tool in a wide range of app's over time. I could absolutely see why someone may choose a base 13" MBP with touch-bar over a 12" MB or Air right now, even if they are casual users....

 

[Trahearne]

Does the 15 inch 2.6ghz use the i7-6770HQ or the i7-6700HQ? On Apple.com it say it includes Intel HD 530 graphics but the 6770 uses Iris Pro 580. This isn't a big deal as I BTO'd one with the 460 dGPU, just want some clarification. Also on Intel's website, 2133mhz RAM is only available in DDR4. Why does Apple state it has DDR3? Correct me if I am wrong.

1. Apparently it is 6700HQ.
2. It is LPDDR3, not DDR3/L. As for why, no one knows. But it is not rare for a large OEM to have slightly customized requirements.

 

[SeanG1027]

1. Apparently it is 6700HQ.
2. It is LPDDR3, not DDR3/L. As for why, no one knows. But it is not rare for a large OEM to have slightly customized requirements.

Yay so this whole time we have been waiting for the Touch Bar basically? /s I was under the impression that we were waiting on Intel to make the 6770 with Iris Pro 580 available to Apple. I'm coming from the 2008 MacBook Aluminum so this will still be a huge jump for me, just miss when Apple used to only put the best chips in their computers.

 

[Cougarcat]

Hopefully as per usual Apple is being conservative with estimating shipping dates, hopefully will get these babies a bit sooner, there is no hold on these guys like the iPhone so maybe mid November deliveries for most? Fingers crossed!

Sure hope so because Nov 25th is such an awkward date for those in the US. With Thanksgiving a lot of people won't be home.

 

[BondFancy]

Just out of curiosity I compared the AMD A10-4600M chip I have in my current laptop to the 2015 15" MacBook Pro from geekbench results.

A10 @ 2.32 GHz:
Single Core: 1524
Multi Core: 3531
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/114300

15" MacBook Pro Mid 2015 @ 2.2 GHz:
Single Core: 3879
Multi Core: 12756
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/898483

For comparison sake they were both quad core processors. Anyone have a bigger performance delta from the computer they are switching from LOL!

This new 15" is going to blow my mind.

 

[killawat]

I was under the impression that we were waiting on Intel to make the 6770 with Iris Pro 580 available to Apple.

We all were.

Painful as it is, Moving to 6700HQ was the right move to set the stage for Kaby Lake. Apple can't hold onto Iris Pro forever, especially if Intel really just doesn't want to deal with it.

 

[samcow]

Any news on whether we can use eGPUs?

 

[deadworlds]

So I'm not sure what this means, but today Apple has adjusted the charge on my credit card.

 

[killawat]

So I'm not sure what this means, but today Apple has adjusted the charge on my credit card.

what model did you get?

 

[Shazamadoo]

A waste of money? I'm using a 13" late 2013 and it has always enough power for all day use. CPU's are not the bottleneck anymore.


Full agree! My late 2016 rMBP 13" is a extremely nice notebook. Very small and more than enough power for all day use. dGPU is not useful in many use cases. And gaming with 15" dGPU. Not really a good option. Its far away from a "gamer GPU".
I'm really happy to get a Touch Bar and USB-C. Just one cable and my 37" WQHD Display ist connected to my Macbook. And with this one cable, all other devices an my desk are connected too. So this "little" Macbook turns in a Desktop "Workstation" wich will be able to deal with things like Lightroom, Final Cut, Xcode and casual gaming.
The new 13" Macbook is far away fron being to slow for 4K editing or photo editing. And running a few virtual machines is also no problem with 16 GB RAM.

So I want to know: What are the whiny guys doing with their Notebook that they have to buy the biggest and most expensive Notebook? I think only a few of them are able to use the power of the new Macbook. But maybe all of them working in the special effects industrie where CPU and GPU power are needed... But i don't think so...

Hmm.. if you think the dual core processor in the 13" is enough to run Photoshop, you must be doing facebook photo touch ups and believe you are doing actual CPU taxing work?

Also 16GB of RAM can be used up very quickly in photoshop when dealing with multiple, multiple layers on a high-res image.

There is a difference between actual pro level work, and a college students version of "pro-level work" which I believe the M-powered MacBook can handle..

 

[samcow]

Hmm.. if you think the dual core processor in the 13" is enough to run Photoshop, you must be doing facebook photo touch ups and believe you are doing actual CPU taxing work?

Also 16GB of RAM can be used up very quickly in photoshop when dealing with multiple, multiple layers on a high-res image.

There is a difference between actual pro level work, and a college students version of "pro-level work" which I believe the M-powered MacBook can handle..

Ha pro level is a nebulous term, I earn rather a lot of money using a macbook air, and I expect to do the same on the new Pro. The new Pro will easily handle my VM needs and other software I use, buy the laptop you need for the job you do

 

[SeanG1027]

So I'm not sure what this means, but today Apple has adjusted the charge on my credit card.

Apple placed an authorization on your card already? That usually doesn't happen until a product ships....also if they did authorize your card, they only could have lowered the amount. Can you think of what might have happened?

 

[TrevorBaum]

Just ordered. Spec'd out, space grey.

 

[Shazamadoo]

Ha pro level is a nebulous term, I earn rather a lot of money using a macbook air, and I expect to do the same on the new Pro. The new Pro will easily handle my VM needs and other software I use, buy the laptop you need for the job you do

Pro is a pretty relative term in market demographics..

you are trying to correlate income to computer specs now? So someone who makes 300k/yr needs a better spec computer than someone who makes 100k/yr?