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It's great that they are making USB-C chargers, not that much because of the chargers, but MacBook users have had a pretty awful time charging their iPhone with dongles or buying the cable separately.

I guess I won't really care about chargers that much when I buy my next iPhone considering it will ship with wireless charging, I wish they switched to USB-C but that's probably not going to happen this year.

What I really hate about lightning is that those freaking cables don't last and they are expensive so wireless charging will definitely "fix" that.
 
I don't think that Apple will cut its new and highly profitable revenue stream by shipping new iPhones with fastcharging bricks included.
I think they'll include some kind of 7,5-10w charger in the box and sell the 18W charger separately
 
Hey, remember that time when everyone complained that Apple was stupid for introducing MacBook Pros that couldn't connect to iPhones. Oh, also remember how everyone said Apple was stupid when they said that this would improve user experience and no one understood why. Because Apple plans for the future, while everyone who complains looks to the past. Another example of Apple planning their ecosystem for the future: let's introduce a product now that will help our iPhone users charge their phones faster in the future.
 
There is 'faster charging' and 'fast charging'. The iPhone 6 can draw up to 12 W, the iPhone 8, 8 Plus and X can draw up to 18 W. For some reason, it's this 18 W that has been labelled industry-wide as 'fast charging'.
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I use them-- they're all I need. End of the day, my X is still well over 60% full and charging overnight gives me no problems. I could use a bigger one at home, I suppose, but I much prefer the little guys when I travel. I'd use one to charge my iPad too if the iPad allowed it...
The iPad does allow it, it just won't be able to keep up when also using the iPad (ie, the iPad will consume more than 5 W and thus the iPad battery will still deplete, albeit more slowly, while doing so).
 
A slim 18W charger like this would be a nice travel charger for a 12" MacBook. I have used an old 5W iPhone 4S charger for my MacBook a few times when I forgot to take the original MacBook charger with me. The MacBook does charge at 5W, albeit veeery slowly.
 
These are the times when I wish the downvoting was still around. You know, to use it every now and then when I see comments that look stupid to me.
I love your counter arguments, that’s right I could also use the downvote for this one ;)
 
I swear the iPhone 6 Plus battery enlarged on mine using an iPad charger with it. The top right corner bulged out and I never dropped it.

On my 7s and my 8 it seems to work fine though.
 
Surprised nobody called you out on this yet... From where does your "truth" derive?

From having designed electronics and understanding that newer designs favor newer more efficient parts with higher specs which usually cost considerably less then the older nearing eol parts they replace. As technologies get older procurement costs tend to go up not down. Also especially in power supply design newer components often obviate the need for other components as those features become integrated into the new designs further reducing the bom.
 
So... How has that whining been working out for you. Are you getting what you want?

Before embarrassing myself publicly in such a manner about a company that doesn't make products that make me happy, and at a price I can afford, I would go with a different manufacturer and reward them with my dollars.


"Now we see product quality slipping, yet prices continue to rise, this is a problem."


We? You are speaking for everyone? Considering phones, on the average, roughly 600,000 people purchased an iPhone each day, everyday, in 2017. The majority from previous customers who continue to open their wallet and reward Apple for the outstanding value provided.

If you don't like Apple's prices (wasn't it margins, earlier?), its easy to purchase a better-valued product. Though I acknowledge that would require taking real action, in contrast to complaining.
Ok, got it. You must drink the coolaid if you like and use a product. It's all or nothing, no criticism allowed. The whole "if you don't like it here, then move to another country platform" is a tired non argument.
Hope you never encounter a software bug, or your keyboard stops working.
I don't mind embarrassing myself publicly, life's too short to worry about people like you.
 
Ok, got it. You must drink the coolaid if you like and use a product. It's all or nothing, no criticism allowed. The whole "if you don't like it here, then move to another country platform" is a tired non argument.
Hope you never encounter a software bug, or your keyboard stops working.
I don't mind embarrassing myself publicly, life's too short to worry about people like you.

Coolaid(sp)? All or nothing? Nice try.

I’ve taken the OLED display in my X to task on this forum more than a dozen times. I do though try and be objective and not whine like someone not getting their way.
 
The iPad does allow it, it just won't be able to keep up when also using the iPad (ie, the iPad will consume more than 5 W and thus the iPad battery will still deplete, albeit more slowly, while doing so).
Huh. I thought the iPad used to give a "not charging" line next to the battery when plugged into a 5W charger but I just checked it and it doesn't seem to. I don't need to use it while it's charging, I'd just leave it overnight... Maybe I'll try that so all my charge blocs are the same.
From having designed electronics and understanding that newer designs favor newer more efficient parts with higher specs which usually cost considerably less then the older nearing eol parts they replace. As technologies get older procurement costs tend to go up not down. Also especially in power supply design newer components often obviate the need for other components as those features become integrated into the new designs further reducing the bom.
Ah, I see the point you're making, but I don't think that means the 5W USB-A will be more expensive than the 18W USB-C. If cheaper components are available, they'd spin the 5W design to benefit from the newer architecture. At these volumes, the design cost basically disappears.
 
Yes. I have been charging using the iPad charger on my iPhone X when I go to bed at night and when I used the Battery Health utility in the battery section of Settings, it showed that my capacity was at 98% instead of 100% like many other iPhone X users using the standard 5W charger.
i am always charging my iPhone X with mac, and after 6 months of usage my battery capacity setting is showing 97%
i also compared that charging with mac is only slightly fast compared to original 5w charger in the box
 
Got so excited when I read USB-C charger and then died (a lot) inside when I saw the "to lightning" Despite owning iPhones exclusively since 2010 and owning several Lightning cables and peripherals I will give them up in a heartbeat for USB-C. Think I could swing Apple Watch 5 cellular a Pixel 3 and my IP7 hanging around at home for Watch updates.
 
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