2018 iPhones Could Start at $699, May Include Apple Pencil Support, 512GB Storage Option for OLED Models

[hypertoast]

In time frame for mobile you are right, it didn’t happen overnight.
3 years for Blackberry before iPhone surpassed it in sales
4 years for Nokia before iPhone surpassed it in sales.
However those number were far greater to overcome.
Galaxy Note sales not so much.
Moreover, it is true Galaxy Note has a loyal following, however we can’t count out those that switched from Apple to the Note but would switch back in a heartbeat if iPhone had a stylus of it’s own.

I know many Note users who use both Iphones and Notes as daily drivers (personal and work). But again, these are rumors....

 

[Don1985]

Unfortunately your requirements, while not excessive, are not typical. Apple tends to produce products for needs of 80-90% of users, not the 10-20%. I think we’ll see 64/256 again next month and probably next year as well.

I suppose there could be a third model but sales would be so low it would definitely surprise me if Apple actually released it this year. When it does come, if it’s a third model (64/256/512) it might be exclusive to the X models or even just the X Plus.

You probably are right, but then there’s 512gb iPad’s so you never know. It’s not the end of the world if it doesn’t double in size but it would seal the deal for me upgrading.

 

[cbaca51]

Never had a plus iPhone model

Will be getting the plus model this year for once. I’m excited.

 

[Lankyman]

Personal preference is all. I agree Apple has done a hell of a job with their LCDs, especially on the iPhone 8. I just much prefer OLED, especially with the blacks.

I believe the 'black' issue on a 6" screen is something of a red herring. I would agree when you scale that up to a 55" panel TV that blacks look superb with OLED but on a phone, it's just too small to make any real difference.
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Can someone explain how the LCD model fits into the line up besides the "budget" phone? It's screen is a mix between the non-plus and plus, which I am sure appeals to some but will lack some of the key features. So what is the point of it?!

What key features will be missing?
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Same, I use cloud storage and everything is backed up automatically. I usually stick with the 64GB option as I find anything more is never used. I was fortunate that last year the base storage was 64GB vice 32GB. If this years base storage is 128GB I have no other option, as I would rather save on the cost of the device and stick with 64GB.

Those who are in the minority have either figured to adopt cloud storage (like you and I), backup on a computer or external HDD, and the others are drowning in data clutter or are data hoarders. For some even 512GB is not enough, maybe Apple should offer a 1TB option.

My iPad 32 gig has only consumed 11 gigs of storage and my iPhone 7 even less. If I want to watch some movies or look at photos they are all there in Google Drive/Google Photos. If I want to download a few movies then soon as they are watched I delete them from my device. I've never come unstuck regarding WiFi yet as I can get free WiFi from my carrier almost anywhere in the UK.

TBH 64 gig is way to much for me. I just can't see the sense of paying through the nose for all this storage on a device.

 

[code-m]

Show were he said iCloud is the method going forward as opposed to on-board storage.
Secondly explain why in 2017 the iPhone storage option was doubled in 2017 when were well into the age if iCloud
Third, explain why iPad in 2017 the iPad pro was given the option of 512GB if the "core value" is iCloud

I believe you are mistaking me for an Apple Executive These seem like questions you should ask of Cook or Schiller, as it was their decision to limit iOS devices physical storage for the longest time to 16GB. Why not incorporate an microSD slot for removable storage.

Straw-man therefore can be ignored

Is this your counter, smh.

The following would need to be known first:
1: is iCloud storage available.
2: is iCloud storage trustworthy Learn more about iCloud in China (I'm not going to go into debate about that, its a topic for another forum.)
3: what is the cost of 2TB storage in that market
4: how long do users in emerging markets hold on to a premium phone.
Not even everyone here on MR updates every year.

These are questions one must ask from Apple’s Executive Team, unless you believe I am the one who limits the default free iCloud storage to 5GB since inception. Many countries have strict local laws, EU, India, etc. This is not limited to China only and I understand those countries concerns. If the shoes was on the other foot and you are using a another country branded phone and service, I assure you the US government will have all sorts of propaganda and demands to store its citizens data in America. Now if you are talking about Human Rights, this is not the thread for it. There are many cloud storage providers with varying storage plans, features, etc. It is user dependant for what fits their cloud storage requirements. Subjective, some users hold on to their phones for within 5 years and hand it down to family/relatives/friends. Granted not everyone on MR updates phones every year, however a significant vocal members do compared to the general public. My point is that even if you purchase a 512GB or even a 1TB physical storage phone, by the time a regular user fills that up the battery would require to be replaced, the phone might have sustained some damage, camera tech improved, screen/display quality and tech improved, etc. On average users purchase a phone through their carrier on a 24 month term. It is safe to say that most users will have a challenging time to use 512GB let along 1TB of physical storage. With streaming services such as Apple Music, Spotify, Netflix, etc there is very little requirement for most to have that amount of storage. Unless the cell/WiFi infrastructure in the location you reside is not up to par, hence 5G development and deployment. Even Google is heavily invested in cloud storage.

Sorry, don't use social media.
No FB, Twitter, Snapchat or Instagram.
Stop making assumptions on why or how people use their devices.

Another assumption.

You are on a public forum right, I believe your concept of social media is skewed.

Kool-aid? You have no idea how that expression should be used.

The ones who get intoxicated from it, never see it as such. However go ahead enlighten me with your wisdom.

Another assumption based on your own imagination.
You can't prove most what people never use, sound like you just have sour grapes.

Seems you are assuming that I have sour grapes. The average user does not tune into WWDC or Apple hardware releases, let alone know what new features the updated iOS has to offer. I know this from a many, ranging a spectrum of age groups. Why would you think I am bitter? Unless you are reflecting on this forum what is your reality.

Source:
https://www.cultofmac.com/325819/ph...oks-with-one-usb-port-design-vs-battery-life/
Oops.
Looks like Phil has egg on his face 'cause the top tier storage capacities have doubled in 2017.

Why downplay Schiller? He is an Apple Executive, he is the one who is bet informed to answer your prior questions and concerns.

Why are you asking me to explain RAM? I never mentioned or alludede to anything about RAM.
Guess all you want, it's what you've been doing all along. Nothing new.

Just as Apple limited RAM for many generations, as their did with ROM. Figure it out, I don’t need to hold your hand on everything, live by your words and think outside the box. Smh.

And you are confusing your reality as a universal reality.
Therefore "I reject your reality and substitute my own" (which works for me).

I am confusing nothing, I am quoting what was mentioned by an Apple Executive on their decisions to limit physical storage for generations. If you do not choose to accept facts with evidence, that is your choice. However don’t bury your head in the ground and call other out.
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TBH 64 gig is way to much for me. I just can't see the sense of paying through the nose for all this storage on a device.

If I omit the system storage, I only use 6-8GB of physical storage or less it varies. However we are in the same boat, I wonder how much of the cost cold be saved if Apple offered a 32GB physical storage with the option of microSD expansion. It would provide the user the option to scale the amount of storage required and transferring files, or reviewing footage from a digital camera, drone would be super quick and easy. Instead we have multiple SKU’s. It would be simpler to just offer 32GB base storage with the option for the user to use microSD cards for upto 1TB, however I suspect if Apple went that route people will hold on to their phones for 5 years if not longer.

 

[pipis2010]

i just hope Apple won’t leak EVERYHTING through a firmware again like last year. I mean the HomePod firmware pretty much leaked everything on the keynote last year.

Does anyone find any of the last few keynotes exciting anymore? Saying this, because we know pretty much everything beforehand with the various leaks, so not many surprises when the actual day comes...
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Because so-called analysts will never stop believing Apple is doomed to competitors with lower prices. Been that way since Apple’s founding. I remember when every analyst was convinced the rumored iPhone 5C was a “cheap” iPhone. Heck Gene Munster speculated that it wouldn’t have Siri or a rear facing camera to keep the price down. These analysts are clowns not to be taken seriously.

The 5c was a bad phone, I owned one and I regretted my purchase. Still, it did what was advertised

 

[mi7chy]

How about less anemic battery capacity?

 

[MyMacintosh]

I’ve seen too many people switching back from larger iPhones to just the SE.

I dont know where you live, but i've seen no such thing.

 

[FFR]

How about less anemic battery capacity?

Wow the iPhone X has a really bright screen, thought the note 9 was suppose to have it beat.

 

[Mimiron]

How about less anemic battery capacity?

How about not comparing a year old iPhone with this year's flagships? It's sorta unfair??

 

[Dammit Cubs]

"2018 iPhones Could Start at $699, May Include Apple Pencil Support, 512GB Storage Option for OLED Models"


"Respected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has previously suggested that Apple Pencil support for a future iPhone is a possibility, although he doesn't believe iPhones will support Apple Pencil until 2019 at the earliest."

-> the title sounds extremely misleading....

 

[I7guy]

How about less anemic battery capacity?

Maybe phones from the same model year should be compared. But that's just me. Let's try again in September.

 

[FFR]

How about less anemic battery capacity?

How about a less anemic processor?

Can the note 9 record more than 5 min of 4K @ 60fps?

 

[BigDO]

I think the quote is rarely taken into its proper context, which was that you don't need a stylus to operate an iPhone, you just need your fingers. Smartphones with styluses pre-iPhone required them to operate the basic functionality of the device - hence the 'getting them out, putting them away - yeurgh' part.

Apple Pencil support would be in addition to, but not necessary for an iPhone to function, so releasing an iPhone with Pencil support still wouldn't be in opposition to what Steve was saying.

No they did not.

 

[xproc]

u happy with this or not...

iPhone 7
32 GB $449
128 GB $549

iPhone 7 Plus
32 GB $549
128 GB $649

iPhone 8
32 GB $549
128 GB $649

iPhone 8 Plus
32 GB $669
128 GB $769

iPhone 9
64 GB $699
256 GB $849

iPhone 11
128 GB $849
512 GB $999

iPhone 11 Plus
128 GB $999
512 GB $1149

 

[Jsameds]

No they did not.

Yes, they did. 6:30

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How about less anemic battery capacity?

How about a fair test with all screens set to the same brightness? Also doesn't that iPhone have a whole year of battery wear and tear?

 

[Shanghaichica]

u happy with this or not...

iPhone 7
32 GB $449
128 GB $549

iPhone 7 Plus
32 GB $549
128 GB $649

iPhone 8
32 GB $549
128 GB $649

iPhone 8 Plus
32 GB $669
128 GB $769

iPhone 9
64 GB $699
256 GB $849

iPhone 11
128 GB $849
512 GB $999

iPhone 11 Plus
128 GB $999
512 GB $1149

Yes because the 512GB x plus is the same price I paid for my 256GB X.

 

[The Game 161]

Yes because the 512GB x plus is the same price I paid for my 256GB X.

I’m tempted by the 512GB even though on current usage I don’t need that much. Planning for a baby so reckon I may be taking too many 4K videos so that would take up a lot of space

On my 256Gb iPad Pro I only have about 50GB space and I do plan on putting films on there.

Just an ocd thing I would need to have matching storage on my iPhone and iPad

 

[Shanghaichica]

I’m tempted by the 512GB even though on current usage I don’t need that much. Planning for a baby so reckon I may be taking too many 4K videos so that would take up a lot of space

On my 256Gb iPad Pro I only have about 50GB space and I do plan on putting films on there.

Just an ocd thing I would need to have matching storage on my iPhone and iPad

You’ll definitely be taking lots of pictures and videos when you have a baby so 512GB will be a good buy.

 

[FFR]

I’m tempted by the 512GB even though on current usage I don’t need that much. Planning for a baby so reckon I may be taking too many 4K videos so that would take up a lot of space

On my 256Gb iPad Pro I only have about 50GB space and I do plan on putting films on there.

Just an ocd thing I would need to have matching storage on my iPhone and iPad

Go for it.
It’s better to have more storage then less, since the iPhone can record 4K longer than 5 Minutes .

 

[macMD]

Base model: 16 GB capacity reintroduced

Next option: 512 GB for an additional $599

Probably 64GB $999, 256GB $1149 and 512GB (if it's real) $1249-1299 would be logical given Apple's markup on storage. This is why we still get 5GB of "Free" storage with iCloud.
[doublepost=1534455440][/doublepost]IF they do offer 512GB Xs Plus then I would be happy, I could ditch Music Match and carry my music on my phone.

 

[The Game 161]

Go for it.
It’s better to have more storage then less, since the iPhone can record 4K longer than 5 Minutes .

Lol very true. Guess all depends on the price and the tarriff as I pay £87.99 a month at the moment don't want it to be much more lol

 

[FFR]

Lol very true. Guess all depends on the price and the tarriff as I pay £87.99 a month at the moment don't want it to be much more lol

If I remember correctly your on the ee annual upgrade program.

Shouldn’t be much different.

 

[The Game 161]

If I remember correctly your on the ee annual upgrade program.

Shouldn’t be much different.

Yeah I'am. Hopefully won't be. Be interesting though if there will be an extra charge upfront given last years X came out in november when it's suppose to be out in september this year.

 

[FFR]

Yeah I'am. Hopefully won't be. Be interesting though if there will be an extra charge upfront given last years X came out in november when it's suppose to be out in september this year.

Might be a issue or ee will want to make it right.

Not much longer to September.