2018 iPhones Could Start at $699, May Include Apple Pencil Support, 512GB Storage Option for OLED Models

[jonnyb]

I think he means you will get a higher spec X this year at a lower price than the X last year.

Yeah, I know what he meant, but that doesn’t mean I got shafted. That’s just how tech goes. I’ve had 10 months of owning one of the best, most advanced pieces of personal tech ever made. I don’t feel cheated. I chose to buy it at a high price, just as I paid I high priced for the original iPhone 11 years ago. I didn’t feel cheated when the iPhone 8 came out a year later with a cheaper price.

 

[pers0n]

iPhone se2 would be nice

 

[sinsin07]

Just entering the market with a stylus does nothing to the competition.

Your memory of history fails you.
In 2007 Apple entered the mobile phone market.
Blackberry, Palm, Nokia thought the same.
Where are they now.

Iff apple does walk through this rumor, it will be a couple iterations before it can even reach the capabilities of what Notes can offer. And yes, the price point... Lets not go there, plastic stylus... $99, Metalic stylus, $169, leather stylus, $199.

Apple can’t match the functionality of the Note as it is today, doesn’t stop them from trouncing Note sales.
Now imagine an iPhone with stylus if it comes to be.

The Note for mobile and Samsung is niche product.
It would take Apple to make it mainstream.

 

[The Game 161]

be interesting if storage wise there will be 3 options

128
256
512

or they get greedy and go 256GB and 512GB

 

[oddiecz]

i honestly dont see the hype on split window in such a small device. I rarely use it now on my ipad

Different strokes It is almost daily that I run across instances where I would use such a feature. Imagine it utilised vertically on the X Plus. Browse a webpage on top and make notes or compose a message underneath. Or watch videos on top and make notes, browse facebook, and so on...

 

[AppleFan910]

I think 256 gb is plenty for a smartphone. 512 is just overkill. Especially where people are upgrading more and more, who is really going to need 512.

It should be 64/128/256
Give users options on how much they need and adjust the price accordingly.

 

[rafark]

New IPhone lineup:

 

[Wanted797]

Now wheres that guy who kept crying on about why Samsung was stupid to have a stylus on their phones?

Now the best thing since sliced bread.

No. Still a dumb idea.

 

[robertosh]

Another year with my iPhone 6. I did not expect to have it for so long! But with a new battery and lack of options from Apple (and also from the market) I will try to extend its life for another year. Fingers crossed!

 

[Xombie2000]

Hmmm.... competitors increased market share by offering higher performance, features, and a lower price, while Apple’s sales were lower than expected.

Really???

Who could’ve seen that coming??? Oh, yeah... everyone outside Apple headquarters.

The question is... how much money did they have to pay for that market analysis?

Wait... you did see Samsung’s new offering right? Lower performance than iPhone X and $1250.

 

[hypertoast]

Your memory of history fails you.
In 2007 Apple entered the mobile phone market.
Blackberry, Palm, Nokia thought the same.
Where are they now.

Apple can’t match the functionality of the Note as it is today, doesn’t stop them from trouncing Note sales.
Now imagine an iPhone with stylus if it comes to be.

The Note for mobile and Samsung is niche product.
It would take Apple to make it mainstream.

Hmm, interesting. but did BB, Palm/ Nokia have crushing sales from the first year? Probably not. It took some time.

Note series has its own following/ fanbase if you may, just like any apple product. But making it mainstream... not sure with the pricepoint... hence Note is also a niche product and so will the iphone with Pencil support. Not for general use.

 

[August West]

I wonder if they will continue to sell the iPhone 8 plus at a reduced price or if the new LED model will replace it? I was hoping to pick up the 8+ after the new phones are introduced since it will more than meet my needs.

 

[Cankoda]

The Apple Pencil support i can see happening but i also think they will slim down the Apple Pencil, maybe introduce another version for the iPhone? i think for a 6.5" phone/phablet it makes sense. Also if they do introduce Pencil support i'm guessing there will also be some software tweaks and features that we haven't seen yet.

I can see the support, but not a new version specially for the iPhone unless they want Steve jobs rolling over in his grave

 

[M.PaulCezanne]

5G? Who has the ability to get 5G now?

That’s why I suppose it’s too much to ask.

I just miss the days when Apple was first to market with next gen tech. Now, when they’re the richest company in history btw, we see regular delays and too many compromises.

Just seems like a good opportunity to add useful tech that is definitely rolling out mainstream during this product cycle rather than, yet again, a slightly better camera, a slightly faster processor and maybe another dancing emoji or two for $1,000+.

Well I guess maybe the pencil...

 

[code-m]

I'm sure you know that they have their own brains and don't have to do everything Steve thought/liked, right?

It is well known that Steve Jobs was a control freak.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I can see the support, but not a new version specially for the iPhone unless they want Steve jobs rolling over in his grave

He’s probably already rolling about the iPad mini and bigger iPhiones.
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be interesting if storage wise there will be 3 options

128
256
512

or they get greedy and go 256GB and 512GB

They might do 128GB and 512GB. Imagine.

 

[Abazigal]

I think 256 gb is plenty for a smartphone. 512 is just overkill. Especially where people are upgrading more and more, who is really going to need 512.

It should be 64/128/256
Give users options on how much they need and adjust the price accordingly.

People who record a ton of 4K footage on their phones, I guess.

64/256/512 sounds about right to me, with most users likely opting for the 256 tier.

 

[code-m]

Ridiculous
Why do posters here always drag out “to many options” complaint.
Too many options for what, consumers?
Is there any data showing too many iphone options is detrimental to the consumer or Apple.
Or is this just posters own projections.

This is what Steven Jobs said upon his return to Apple relating to Mac hardware.

Not clear why you would get mixed messages on icloud vs onboard storage, so let’s throw out some examples:
1: user doesn’t want to pay for 2TB or storage.
2: user doesn’t live in area with good service.
3: user prefers to have some stuff stored locally.
4: user often finds themselves in locations with no cell/wifi service at all but wants to watch movies.
Examples: Airplanes / Office building basements / Camping etc..

EDIT: Oops I forgot one
5: user shoots a lot of long 4K video, or just a lot of 4K video in general.

1. User does not require 512GB of physical storage, if that is the case the place it is required is Mac hardware where the base storage is presently 128GB.

2. If user does not live in an area with good service, then why buy a phone with LTE, I am sure even a 6S would suffice. If so remote or lack of service, user should consider landline, getting a Sat phone or relocating if another provider/option is not available. If I recall there is plans to bring cell service to Mount Everest, is user living in a cave.

3. Some stuff locally is subjective, many users have terabytes of data, does that mean a 1TB or larger storage iPhone should be available. Even the classic iPod storage capped off at 256GB if I recall.

4. If user is in a location where there is no cell/wifi service then put the phone away and enjoy nature/scenery vice glued to a screen. I have personally been to remote areas of the globe for longer than 3 months, and can inform you that 64GB or less of physical storage was ample. Plus are you carrying around days worth of backup battery packs. How many movies are you watching on an international flight (2 maybe 3 at 1080p that is around 3GB max file size, anything more and it is being wasted). Are you watching movies on your employers dime instead of working, that might explain why you are banished to the basement. Camping is meant to remove oneself from routine and electronic device, to unwind and enjoy the great outdoors, I don’t believe you understand what it is and its purpose, unless you mean Glamping.

5. If you are shooting 4K video on an iPhone, you clearly are not a professional, or are using additional physical storage to record social videos that are going to be heavily compressed when uploaded to any cloud service. In any case there is a purpose for each, recording 4K video does not make your content worth watching.

There is no constradictory or mixed messages from Apple.
Just a refusal to step outside ones own bubble.

Please explain why iPhone’s base storage was hampered by 16GB for so many generations, when many were calling for 32GB. Apples answer was that Cloud storage exists to compliment the base storage requirements if more was needed.

Let Apple do Apple and you do you.
They apparently are very successful without your input.

You are on a public forum whose participants have some interest in Apple or its related products either because their are a shareholder, user or possibly employee. Question is why are you being so defensive, are you an Apple employee or lawyer.

 

[sinsin07]

Hmm, interesting. but did BB, Palm/ Nokia have crushing sales from the first year? Probably not. It took some time.

Note series has its own following/ fanbase if you may, just like any apple product. But making it mainstream... not sure with the pricepoint... hence Note is also a niche product and so will the iphone with Pencil support. Not for general use.

That’s why I suppose it’s too much to ask.

I just miss the days when Apple was first to market with next gen tech. Now, when they’re the richest company in history btw, we see regular delays and too many compromises.

Just seems like a good opportunity to add useful tech that is definitely rolling out mainstream during this product cycle rather than, yet again, a slightly better camera, a slightly faster processor and maybe another dancing emoji or two for $1,000+.

Well I guess maybe the pencil...

In time frame for mobile you are right, it didn’t happen overnight.
3 years for Blackberry before iPhone surpassed it in sales
4 years for Nokia before iPhone surpassed it in sales.
However those number were far greater to overcome.
Galaxy Note sales not so much.
Moreover, it is true Galaxy Note has a loyal following, however we can’t count out those that switched from Apple to the Note but would switch back in a heartbeat if iPhone had a stylus of it’s own.

 

[code-m]

People who record a ton of 4K footage on their phones, I guess.

64/256/512 sounds about right to me, with most users likely opting for the 256 tier.

Users recording 4K video on a phone that cannot display 4K. Uploading to social services that compress it heavily. If it is a professional videographer, their are not using an iPhone to record 4K video. It is a nice option to have 4K, however it is a marketing gimmick.

 

[Abazigal]

Users recording 4K video on a phone that cannot display 4K. Uploading to social services that compress it heavily. If it is a professional videographer, their are not using an iPhone to record 4K video. It is a nice option to have 4K, however it is a marketing gimmick.

I think people initially said the same thing about 128 gb of storage on an ios device as well.

I imagine a typical use case would be recording in 4K to your phone, then airdropping the footage to your Mac to do the editing. Alternatively, you could also view the photos on your 4K Apple TV.

I also know quite a few friends who don’t clear out their photo gallery ever. They just let it build up with whatsapp attachments and the like. One is already nearing the 200 gb mark. I can see her getting a 512 gb iPhone in the future just so she doesn’t have to deal with managing them.

For me, I have my Dropbox folders synced to my phone via the documents app. While I am still nowhere close to filling the 256 gb on my iPhone, I have long passed the 64 gb storage threshold.

These people are likely in the minority, but I do see legitimate uses for wanting so much storage.

 

[sinsin07]

This is what Steven Jobs said upon his return to Apple relating to Mac hardware.

So what.
That was good at the time for Apple, 21 years ago.
Different company, different needs, different times.
You can't expect a company to hold on to the same polices it did 19 years ago.

1. User does not require 512GB of physical storage, if that is the case the place it is required is Mac hardware where the base storage is presently 128GB.

Fortunately for the public, your thoughts on this don't matter.

2. If user does not live in an area with good service, then why buy a phone with LTE, I am sure even a 6S would suffice. If so remote or lack of service, user should consider landline, getting a Sat phone or relocating if another provider/option is not available. If I recall there is plans to bring cell service to Mount Everest, is user living in a cave.

Once again, your bubble is showing.
1: They may not live in area with good service but might travel to one with good service or might have a work issued iphone that allows them to have more storage. Not all companies lock donw there mobile devices.
2: User might live in an emerging market where they can afford the 512 but not the monthly 2TB of storage over the cost of 2 or more years.
Many other scenarios out there if you'd just think outside the box.

3. Some stuff locally is subjective, many users have terabytes of data, does that mean a 1TB or larger storage iPhone should be available. Even the classic iPod storage capped off at 256GB if I recall.

Totally irrelevant argument.

4. If user is in a location where there is no cell/wifi service then put the phone away and enjoy nature/scenery vice glued to a screen. I have personally been to remote areas of the globe for longer than 3 months, and can inform you that 64GB or less of physical storage was ample. Plus are you carrying around days worth of backup battery packs. How many movies are you watching on an international flight (2 maybe 3 at 1080p that is around 3GB max file size, anything more and it is being wasted). Are you watching movies on your employers dime instead of working, that might explain why you are banished to the basement. Camping is meant to remove oneself from routine and electronic device, to unwind and enjoy the great outdoors, I don’t believe you understand what it is
and its purpose, unless you mean Glamping.

Yikes. You are trying to fit the world into your narrow view of how things should be.
Good thing there is a ton of diversity in the world.
In any regard all of the immediate above is subjective therefore irrelevant.
Can't argue against scenarios that only exist in your mind.

5. If you are shooting 4K video on an iPhone, you clearly are not a professional, or are using additional physical storage to record social videos that are going to be heavily compressed when uploaded to any cloud service. In any case there is a purpose for each, recording 4K video does not make your content worth watching.

Who said anything about being a professional? Apple provides the functionality therefore people use it. Whether you think it is important or needed is subjective and irrelevant.
Good thing you're not calling the shots are we'd probably be still using windows mobile 5.5 , Palm and Blackberry.

Please explain why iPhone’s base storage was hampered by 16GB for so many generations, when many were calling for 32GB. Apples answer was that Cloud storage exists to compliment the base storage requirements if more was needed.

I will answer your question as soon as you show something from Apple backing up your claim about the cloud.
Also please explain why the iPhone storage has increased to 256Gb and the iPad to 512

You are on a public forum whose participants have some interest in Apple or its related products either because their are a shareholder, user or possibly employee. Question is why are you being so defensive, are you an Apple employee or lawyer.

I am refuting your claims and giving possible scenarios not covered in your limited view.
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[Ludatyk]

Will the X Plus have any factors other than a bigger screen that set it apart from the others, we need things like multitasking and maybe picture and picture especially for a 6.5” screen.

I'm curious to see how they plan to differentiate the new X and the additional X Plus.

But when they first introduced the 6 and 6 Plus the only deciding factors was the display and it was only until the 7 and 7 Plus that there was a bigger difference between the two models when they added the two camera lens.

Therefore I feel they are going the same route as the 6 and 6 Plus models.. whereas the only deference between the two will be some software perks such as two column view in apps like Messages, Contacts and Mail.

 

[towdow3]

So what no device even the same size as the 4.7 inch phones? The iPhone 8 is already too big for me. Would it kill them to spec bump the SE?? GAHHH

what is the spec bump supposed to do exactly? the se runs ios11 fine and IFF what apple says is true about ios12 then it still wont need a spec bump at all.

 

[Flight Plan]

Another year with my iPhone 6. I did not expect to have it for so long! But with a new battery and lack of options from Apple (and also from the market) I will try to extend its life for another year. Fingers crossed!

I'm more than ready to jump off my 6 Plus. Opening ANYTHING is a test of my patience.

Pencil support would be great; I already have one for my iPad Pro 12", but would consider buying a smaller form-factor version for use with my phone.

I'd get at least 256 GB of memory, but probably would just buy the 512 if available, a smaller pencil (if available), the new airpods (if available), and a new version watch (if available). Except for the Airpods, I've been holding off on accessory purchases until the new phone comes out. In the meantime, I kept my 6+ for almost 5 years, so I definitely got my money's worth out of it.

In related news, I just recently decided to move ahead with Homekit (but not until I get a new X2) and a bunch of stuff that surrounds that. That kind of decision is basically a conscious intent to stay in the Apple iOS ecosystem for some number of years more. It's also an expensive decision, yeah yeah, I know...

And finally, until Apple makes the new name public, I've decided to call it the X2. I figure that's better than calling it the ten-two, 10-2, DecaDeuce, or 102. So there!