I wasn’t even considering upgrading but 512gb is tempting. My 256gb only has 40gb left, that’ll probably fill up quickly with 4K video, and I have no interest in relying on streaming from the cloud or turning on ‘optimization’.
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2018 iPhones Could Start at $699, May Include Apple Pencil Support, 512GB Storage Option for OLED Models
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I wasn’t even considering upgrading but 512gb is tempting. My 256gb only has 40gb left, that’ll probably fill up quickly with 4K video, and I have no interest in relying on streaming from the cloud or turning on ‘optimization’.
I was agreeing with you from your first statement (it really IS silly to complain about having too many choices) right up until the money-shot in the last line. I can't disagree with that statement enough, because ALL companies need input, or they will end up DOA one day. Never stop seeking input! Never stop offering input!
This is what I don't get about Apple, price is always an issue. It doesn't matter if you are and individual or a corporation budgets are budgets. Further if your price moves into the rip off category then you will have problems selling your expensive junk. In Apples case they are hit with the double whammy of high prices and the feeling many have of the iPhone becoming a big ripoff.
How management at apple couldn't see this is beyond me. Maybe they think the high wages they pay their people in the Silicon Valley, is the norm world wide. It isn't even for skilled technical workers. It is pretty hard to pay $1000 for an item that sits in your hand when you can get equivalent devices for half that price. This especially if you need to shell out that money every couple of years.
However this is only one thing that boggles the mind, the entire Mac line up is so neglected that you really have to wonder if there are any product managers left at Apple. Apples ignorance has me running Linux on an HP laptop right now. I didn't want to do that, but man they need to pay a little attention to their hardware.
I'm also in the market for a new iPad. The only thing holding me back is the ID system which should migrate to the iPad this year. Even the iPad is to the point where one can go for years between updates. There are still issues with the iPad that I'd like to see Apple correct, one especially being the reliance on always having a connection and the inability to deal with files in a rational manner. The files issue should have been resolved years ago on the iPad.
Still iPad is the best travel device out there. Sadly it is hobbled by an Apple that sees its image of the device being more important than usability for the user.
How management at apple couldn't see this is beyond me. Maybe they think the high wages they pay their people in the Silicon Valley, is the norm world wide. It isn't even for skilled technical workers. It is pretty hard to pay $1000 for an item that sits in your hand when you can get equivalent devices for half that price. This especially if you need to shell out that money every couple of years.
However this is only one thing that boggles the mind, the entire Mac line up is so neglected that you really have to wonder if there are any product managers left at Apple. Apples ignorance has me running Linux on an HP laptop right now. I didn't want to do that, but man they need to pay a little attention to their hardware.
[doublepost=1534290084][/doublepost]Smart phones in general have run their course as the must have consumer item. With the very acceptable performance new models offer the need to upgrade every year is gone. In fact many people can easily go 4 years now and still get everything they need out of their cell phone.
I'm also in the market for a new iPad. The only thing holding me back is the ID system which should migrate to the iPad this year. Even the iPad is to the point where one can go for years between updates. There are still issues with the iPad that I'd like to see Apple correct, one especially being the reliance on always having a connection and the inability to deal with files in a rational manner. The files issue should have been resolved years ago on the iPad.
Still iPad is the best travel device out there. Sadly it is hobbled by an Apple that sees its image of the device being more important than usability for the user.
[doublepost=1534290289][/doublepost]I'm in the same boat! If no new SE comes I will really have to consider buying the old SE. That doens't please me but I really need a cell phone that fits in a pocket well. When it comes time I will look over the larger devices but it will be a hard sell.
If Apple do decide Pencil support for iPhone, that would be quite a change from....
"Who wants a Stylus?" (go to 6:33)
"Who wants a Stylus?" (go to 6:33)
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Actually I can see lots of reasons to want so much SSD.
- Movies. Anybody taking videos with the cell phone can benefit from storage space.
- Off line users. Now this might be more iPad than iphone but sometimes we just are not in reach of a cell phone tower so the more material you can store on line (in the SSD) the better off you are.
- Like movie makers there are a lot of very serious photographers out there. Lots fo sotrage means you don't come up short in other apps.
- I like to carry around technical documentation with me. IPhone and IPad are surprisingly good for this use. The problem is you can end up with a lot of files if you are a technician working on a variety of equipment. Space is your friend.
- Speaking of downloads, I'd really like to see Apple adjust Itunes so that movies can be downloaded to local store at will. That way I can setup an iPhone (more likely an iPad) for a vacation where WiFI might not exist. The last thing you want to do is to waste expensive cell data to stream a movie (TV show & etc) from Apples servers. It is one big advantage that a laptop has over Apples I devices.
Getting way to expensive, even on a 2yr phone plan. Things need to come back down to reality a bit for people to be afford them.
People initially convinced themselves that 128GB was enough storage as Apple lingered with 16GB as base storage and when asked about it, their kept hinting at cloud (iCloud) storage. There were people at the time in the minority that wanted greater than 128GB storage, however the reasoning from others varried. Some even threw cost at it, and those people who wanted more reiterated that cost was not a concern. Problem is that Apple was not going to produce a low sales, high storage option, so contend with iCloud or figure it out.
However reviewing 4K recorded images/video taken on an iPhone and then trying to locate a 4K Apple TV attached to a 4K TV, is just not the convenient option, same for a Mac. The quickest and most convenient is to review the footage on a phone and decide if it is worth keeping or not, on a phone that does not have a 4K display. If you are using your oPhone to record 4K images/video you are better off with a dedicated camera. I didn’t realize there was a market for 4K selfies or food pictures. Let’s be serious here.
The friend that was mentioned sounds disorganized. What happens once her 512GB phone is full and a 756GB/1TB option is not offered. Either she is unaware of how to clean her device, or something else. I know a many who believe their will use the top tiered storage option offered in an iPhone, only to find out that within a year or so, their have yet to even use half of it. Next year their just upgrade and left with the same dilemma. It is an innate reaction to want more when we are aware that we will never use it, it is fear that drives this want vice need.
Same, I use cloud storage and everything is backed up automatically. I usually stick with the 64GB option as I find anything more is never used. I was fortunate that last year the base storage was 64GB vice 32GB. If this years base storage is 128GB I have no other option, as I would rather save on the cost of the device and stick with 64GB.
Those who are in the minority have either figured to adopt cloud storage (like you and I), backup on a computer or external HDD, and the others are drowning in data clutter or are data hoarders. For some even 512GB is not enough, maybe Apple should offer a 1TB option.
Were you not paying attention to Apples core values that Tim Cook provided in his keynotes, and reiterates it. Unless you are saying core values change.
1. Many companies, varying policies. If one is provided a company phone and lives in an area without good service, does this not defeat the purpose of a company phone to get in touch with its employee(s) where you are perceived to be on-call after hours. Unless I am mistaken and you are permitted to take your work computer/laptop home as well. Nice the company gets extra work from you and does not have to pay for it, you basically got bought over when their handed you a shiny phone.
2. So the user in an emerging market is purchasing additional storage as insurance, is this not similar to purchasing 2TB of storage as insurance. The cost of 512GB and needing to upgrade the following year outstrips having purchased 2TB to being with and growing into it, that may last 4-6 years.
Yes, a lot of scenarios out there. I can imagine people who require 2TB of physical storage in a phone, guess what Apple should offer it as well.
Roger, no counter, got it.
Apple actually was the one with the narrow view offering base storage of 16GB for numerous generations on the iPhone, iPad and iPod. I forgot 1GB of RAM as well. Many reviewers and users were asking for 32GB base storage and 2GB RAM, I guess it was another instance of Apple penny pinching its users.
So you are recording 4K videos with your iPhone to upload it to social media sites where it is heavily compressed. Why not use a GoPro if you are in to action shots that is built to be rugged, durable, etc. Why stop at 4K bring on 8K Apple, why are you holding your users from expressing themselves in the highest possible resolution while still having sub4K resolution on an iPhone display. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and buying into things that most never even use.
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https://www.cultofmac.com/325819/ph...oks-with-one-usb-port-design-vs-battery-life/
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Please explain why we have 3GB or more of RAM. My only guess for the boost in storage capacity is in preparation/transition where iOS will take on some if not more computing capabilities macOS one had.
You are confusing limited view with a realistic one. Maybe Apple should offer a microSD slot, now that we are thinking outside the box, thoughts?
When iOS limits the user where their cannot completely download any file from the internet or have a proper file browser, what really is the point of even having 1TB of physical storage. It seems iOS is purposely being limited, I have to use other apps to download files, something that Safari.app does in macOS. Cook and Apple marketing says the iPad is a computer that runs iOS, however I believe its full potential is not leashed. If security is your concern, provide a pop-up warning, thus allowing the user to decide.
I think u mean micro led the next gen screen technology that apple has invested billions in.
Show were he said iCloud is the method going forward as opposed to on-board storage.
Secondly explain why in 2017 the iPhone storage option was doubled in 2017 when were well into the age if iCloud
Third, explain why iPad in 2017 the iPad pro was given the option of 512GB if the "core value" is iCloud
Straw-man therefore can be ignored
The following would need to be known first:
1: is iCloud storage available.
2: is iCloud storage trustworthy Learn more about iCloud in China (I'm not going to go into debate about that, its a topic for another forum.)
3: what is the cost of 2TB storage in that market
4: how long do users in emerging markets hold on to a premium phone.
Not even everyone here on MR updates every year.
Sorry, don't use social media.
No FB, Twitter, Snapchat or Instagram.
Stop making assumptions on why or how people use their devices.
Another assumption.
Kool-aid? You have no idea how that expression should be used.
Another assumption based on your own imagination.
You can't prove most what people never use, sound like you just have sour grapes.
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https://www.cultofmac.com/325819/ph...oks-with-one-usb-port-design-vs-battery-life/
Oops.
Looks like Phil has egg on his face 'cause the top tier storage capacities have doubled in 2017.
Why are you asking me to explain RAM? I never mentioned or alludede to anything about RAM.
Guess all you want, it's what you've been doing all along. Nothing new.
And you are confusing your reality as a universal reality.
Therefore "I reject your reality and substitute my own" (which works for me).
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Actually, I was really just joking. While the industry might try to stick "super" on the front of some future incarnation of OLED, I doubt the industry would dare tack on "duper" too.
I highly doubt Apple would push Apple Pencil for the iPhone. It’s a rumor, probably based on the analysts confusing this with the recent Galaxy Note 9, and then they just made things up as usual.
My perfect iPhone lineup:
iPhone mini - iPhone SE size body, X styling, X edge-to-edge screen, notch.
iPhone - the X
iPhone Plus - ......a bigger X, surely you're following along.
Feature parity across all.
iPhone mini - iPhone SE size body, X styling, X edge-to-edge screen, notch.
iPhone - the X
iPhone Plus - ......a bigger X, surely you're following along.
Feature parity across all.
I travel a lot so I like having close to 100gb of music for flights (I like to have the option to play whatever pops into my head) and my photo library is well over 100gb. When you’re roaming, data services can be unreliable and in some countries far too expensive to keep data on so I am well and truly ready to buy a 512gb model!
Unfortunately your requirements, while not excessive, are not typical. Apple tends to produce products for needs of 80-90% of users, not the 10-20%. I think we’ll see 64/256 again next month and probably next year as well.
I suppose there could be a third model but sales would be so low it would definitely surprise me if Apple actually released it this year. When it does come, if it’s a third model (64/256/512) it might be exclusive to the X models or even just the X Plus.
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So the cheapest phone, which I would choose for my kids, is now 6.1 inches.
If they are to get something managable for their small hands, ill have to resort to three year old tech.
Thanks Apple
If they are to get something managable for their small hands, ill have to resort to three year old tech.
Thanks Apple
Why not the iPhone SE? Why do kids need the latest and greatest and how is that going to stop them from doing whatever?
They allready have the SE. Its a great phone, dont get me wrong, but every now and then they to deserve something new.
There are several factors ofcourse, wether to buy a kid anything. A lot of adults also prefer smaller size phones, and kids more or less require a smaller form-factor. My point is that Its dissapointing that Apple opts to cater to neither, regardless of how you have chosen to get by with the options availiable.
This is first world problems, I know.
Apple doesn’t have a current tech small factor phone. Whether or not this is something they are ever planning on doing is anybody’s guess.