I think they are desktop CPUs actually (but I might be wrong).
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2018 MacBook Air and Mac mini Hands-On: Long-Awaited Updates Don't Disappoint
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I think they are desktop CPUs actually (but I might be wrong).
Yikes. I'm sure the LG is nice, but you can buy a very decent 4K display for literally half that much money.
It is something to grossly overcharge Apple users for a disposable computer.
Whaha !
Your question is so funny - with all attempts to market iPad Pro as the future of computing, the “best computer” possible and all the fluff to compensate for their lack of a disruptively innovative device - now to end up as a 10.5’’ peripheral...
Sorry I can’t give you the answer (...) but definitely can imagine the gnashing it stirrs at the Apple Board.
Is it just me or are the updated products crazy expensive? (MBA, mini as well as iPad pro's)
IPad with iOS is just a toy for majority of users. Can u explain how the new iPad can increase your productivity? I was thinking about upgrading to a bigger one, but I'm basically ok with my air2. I hate that 64G ripoff trying to force you to 256, where the price for typical tablet use cases is just insane. Sometimes I have a feeling they don't want people buy their products. Call everything "pro" and put a crazy price tag on it. What a typical picture of today's Apple
The problem with these low-end models is that those machines are nigh-useless for any real work. I've got a 128gb/8gb macbook pro 13, and it's just massively crippled. The memory immediately fills up, which then pages out to the tiny SSD, which immediately starts throwing system errors.
I just hate that the "starting at" models are so hopelessly crippled. It makes those prices a lie... that air/mini ACTUALLY starts at the model above this one, if you want to do anything vaguely complex with it.
I just hate that the "starting at" models are so hopelessly crippled. It makes those prices a lie... that air/mini ACTUALLY starts at the model above this one, if you want to do anything vaguely complex with it.
None, because I still run my 4/5.1 MacPro with 6 disks (3x HD, 3x SSD) inside. But if I ran a Mini (or iMac), I'd take either my 4xdisks-TB-enclosure (OWC), my TB-Areca-Raid (8 slots) or my TB-Promise-Raid (6 slots).
The boot drive in my Pro is a 500GB-SSD with 300GB free, /Users/me is also on a 500GB SSD
$799 for a desktop Core i3 does seem overpriced to me as well. With a Core i5 that price point would be just fine.
I have some free advice for you: don’t buy it then. The only way to make Apple change is to hurt their bottom line. Comparing an entry level computer to an upgraded one both isn’t fair and won’t change anything.
Just watching the keynote now, and baring the pathetic shouty audience which they could well do without! Obviously Apple employees, and the ‘New Mac Mini is five times faster then the old one’, nearly 1X for every year between them then...
It was a good event and I like how they ‘claim’ the new Macs are made from 100% recycled aluminium, I hope that’s true and not a twist of reality. Because I’m impressed! Good green effort for them
Kinda confused why the MacBook exists now though, the new Air and Mini are good solid updates.
Shame no show for the new Mac Pro though?
I’ve not got to the new iPad Pros yet..
It was a good event and I like how they ‘claim’ the new Macs are made from 100% recycled aluminium, I hope that’s true and not a twist of reality. Because I’m impressed! Good green effort for them
Kinda confused why the MacBook exists now though, the new Air and Mini are good solid updates.
Shame no show for the new Mac Pro though?
I’ve not got to the new iPad Pros yet..
Doesn't disappoint? I dunno about that at least on the Air. This really feels like purposefully processor neutering just to push people to have to go to the Pro with the added Touch Bar cost and feature if they want to go any higher. This could have existed fine in a segment where people don’t want to use and pay for the Touch Bar garbage and would have been a great refresh if not for the proc. This Air is using a i5-8200Y processor not the U series and its the only processor option. This is magnitudes slower than the Pro 13 and it still has to drive a retina display. Incidentally this is how they’re getting the higher battery life. This thing has got to be dog slow, my 2012 Macbook Pro is faster than this.
It is a better value for students and consumers. A 1.6 dual core i5 is a crippled CPU no matter if it is 2nd gen, 4th gen or 8th gen. The GPU won't be anything special either. As far as the screen, I/O, Touch ID and things like this it is a fantastic value. They also held back on the storage keeping it at 1.5 TB max as well as not offering DDR4 RAM at least for now.
The 12" MacBook was always meant to be a ultra, ultra portable and nothing has change there. It is for people who value the ultimately in portability and are willing to sacrifice performance to get this. I think we'll see a MacBook redesign in a few years though. I don't think they will be able to justify keeping this machine with a single port. I would expect the majority of Mac buyers on a budget will go for this new MacBook Air or the base 13" MBP which should get a refresh in the next 4-6 months.
The problem is that Intel doesn't have any stronger dual-core i5s currently available and they will not offer a quad i5 without the Touch Bar. Apple has made that pretty clear and I predicted this. There are slower quad i5s around 1.6 that Dell and HP use, but their performance would be too close to the faster i5s in the 13" TB MBP and they will not give up on TB.
Rubbish.
The New Mac mini is a backward step from the 2012 quad core versions.
I was hoping to replace my 2012 Mac mini server which has an i7 quad core processor and 2x2TB SSD with a faster (user serviceable storage) system.
I guess I am using my last Mac mini ever. I am more likely now to head towards intel NUC
The New Mac mini is a backward step from the 2012 quad core versions.
I was hoping to replace my 2012 Mac mini server which has an i7 quad core processor and 2x2TB SSD with a faster (user serviceable storage) system.
I guess I am using my last Mac mini ever. I am more likely now to head towards intel NUC
$1,500 for Mini for typical i5/16Gb RAM/512Gb SSD configuration. That is an absolutely idiotic price, but I'm sure the pent up demand will generate sales. $4,200 fully loaded........ I wonder how long Apple can milk the user base with the ever increasing prices until there is backlash.
It's like watching Trump - it shouldn't be working, but somehow it is. Boggles my mind.
It's like watching Trump - it shouldn't be working, but somehow it is. Boggles my mind.
The elephant in the room is the lack of TouchID on the 13" Escape MBP. They will have to fix this very soon since it is crazy that a cheaper notebook has a feature that a more expensive version lacks. Of course the new MacBook Air does have a much weaker CPU and integrated GPU. I really doubt Iris is onboard. Most likely UHD 620/630 or something like this.
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You knew they were never going to allow replaceable SSDs ever again. Your machine has SATA SSDs and while you're happy with the capacity/performance trade off, they are just not the same as PCIe 3.0 NVMe. The current Mac mini is truly excellent. The only issue here is the price. If you could have a 2TB NVMe for $1000 with quad core 8th gen i7 and 32GB RAM I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining.
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Yeah, it's expensive. Apple always is. The iMac 5K will be a better value for most. But you're neglecting the amount of people who are fine with the base config. This is enough for light users and high school students who want a small desktop machine. It's also good enough for a fancy HTPC, inside a custom arcade machine, etc.
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You knew they were never going to allow replaceable SSDs ever again. Your machine has SATA SSDs and while you're happy with the capacity/performance trade off, they are just not the same as PCIe 3.0 NVMe. The current Mac mini is truly excellent. The only issue here is the price. If you could have a 2TB NVMe for $1000 with quad core 8th gen i7 and 32GB RAM I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining.
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Yeah, it's expensive. Apple always is. The iMac 5K will be a better value for most. But you're neglecting the amount of people who are fine with the base config. This is enough for light users and high school students who want a small desktop machine. It's also good enough for a fancy HTPC, inside a custom arcade machine, etc.
Students and kids started dropping them long time ago when they got rid of fun and intuitive non-flatten Aqua UI from Steve and Scott era
Typical Apple. You want it but don't want to pay what they are asking for it.
Air seems to be in a weird position. Maybe they are dumping the MB line.
New Mini is great but $800 and you only get 128gb ssd? And it's i3? I would have expected that a few years ago.
Ah well. Probably still sticking with my 2012 Mini with the 750gb ssd and 16gb ram.
Air seems to be in a weird position. Maybe they are dumping the MB line.
New Mini is great but $800 and you only get 128gb ssd? And it's i3? I would have expected that a few years ago.
Ah well. Probably still sticking with my 2012 Mini with the 750gb ssd and 16gb ram.
Is there any off the shelf Mac OS software that allows you to cluster multiple macs for this sort of job parallelisation?
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They cannot offer quad core i5s in the MBA. The MBP Escape doesn't have them and they're not going to offer a $1200 machine with similar performance to an $1800 one. That would be business malpractice and shareholders would call for Cook's firing. Intel has put them in a hard spot. Quad i5s are now comparable to older quad i7s in some cases. In the best case they even surpass older high clock i7s. The only way to differentiate the models is to cripple the cores/clock speed and iGPU.
I think Apple will upgrade the dual core models to quad core once Intel offers octa-core i9s at the ultra high end, hexa-core i5/i7s high end and quad-core i5s at the "low end."
Dual core i5-MBA
Dual core i5/i7-MBP Escape
Quad core i5/i7-TB MBP 13"
Hexa core i7/i9i9-TB MBP 15"
But the Air 2 was the top of the line ipad then ... for 499
Top of the line ipad today starts way way higher
That's really sad, especially now that the latest Windows 10 Update is swarming with bugs, accidentally deleting gigabytes of user documents. Microsoft's general attitude is to add new features now, and fix the bugs (or ignore them) right before final release. The correct attitude in SW is to find and fix the bug as soon as possible, very early during the development cycle. This is not just an unfortunate mistake, but the whole culture inside Microsoft seems to be rotten. I don't think I'm going to leave the Apple ecosystem. And I'm a Windows developer, who knows Windows inside out, spending 99% of my work in Visual Studio. When die hard Windows experts like me are disappointed by Microsoft, that's when you know something is really messed up. I'm seriously sorry for going with the Dell XPS instead of a MacBook Pro.
Not to mention Microsoft couldn't develop a proper Time Machine equivalent in several decades. Trust me, the average people are not going to practice proper backup unless it's always on and completely seamless and unattended. On the Windows land, large corporations are being attacked by ransomware, and huge businesses are actually losing all of their data, despite IT people overlooking their every move. Unless Microsoft goes through a complete cultural change, I think people are better off staying with Apple for the time being.