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Wish they had the 2017 up there, I'm wondering how much of that score is the APFS free copying.
 



The 2018 MacBook Pros just went on sale yesterday, but Apple was quick about shipping them out and some customers already have the new machines in hand.

Laptop Mag was able to get one of the new 13-inch 2018 MacBook Pro models and performed some benchmarks to give us an idea of how it measures up to competing PCs. According to Laptop Mag, it the new 13-inch MacBook Pro is the "fastest system in its class."

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The site's tests were performed on the $1,999 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar equipped with an 2.3GHz quad-core 8th-generation Core i5 processor, 8GB RAM, and a 512GB SSD.

A file copy test of the SSD in the new MacBook Pro, which Apple says supports sequential read speeds of up to 3.2GB/s and sequential write speeds up to 2.2GB/s, led Laptop Mag to declare the SSD in the MacBook Pro "the fastest ever" in a laptop. Higher capacity SSDs may see even faster speeds on disk speeds tests. A BlackMagic Disk Speed test was also conducted, resulting in an average write speed of 2,682 MB/s.

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On a Geekbench 4 CPU benchmark, the 13-inch MacBook Pro earned a score of 18,055 on the multi-core test, outperforming 13-inch machines from companies like Dell, HP, Asus, and Microsoft. That score beats out all 2017 MacBook Pro models and is faster than some iMac configurations. 15-inch MacBook Pro models with 6-core 8th-generation Intel chips will show even more impressive speeds.

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The MacBook Pro took 16:57 minutes to transcode a 4K video clip to 1080p using Handbrake, faster than most competing machines and two and a half minutes faster than the 2017 13-inch MacBook Pro. It didn't win at an Excel VLOOKUP macro matching 65,000 names to corresponding addresses, but at 1 minute 16 seconds to complete the task, it was competitive with the Dell XPS 13 and Asus Zenbook, while beating out the Surface Book 2 and the Huawei MateBook X Pro.

One area where the MacBook Pro didn't quite measure up to other machines with similar specs was GPU performance. The 13-inch 2018 MacBook Pro uses Intel's Iris Plus Graphics 655 with 128MB of embedded DRAM and was unable to compete in a Dirt 3 graphics test, getting only 38.8 frames per second. All Windows-based machines tested offered much better performance.

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Apple did team up with Blackmagic to offer a Blackmagic eGPU for gaming purposes and system intensive creative tasks, but the device is priced at $700. It does, however, offer super fast performance with a built-in Radeon Pro 580 GPU.

Additional benchmarks and details about the 2018 MacBook Pro models will surface over the course of the next few days as orders arrive and retail stores begin stocking the machines.

The new 2018 models can be purchased from the Apple online store, with prices on the 13-inch machine starting at $1,799 and prices on the 15-inch machine starting at $2,399.

Article Link: 2018 MacBook Pro Features 'Fastest SSD Ever' in a Laptop According to Benchmarks

Oh please MacRumors!
If you copy some article try to do some research of your own! Every reasonable tech person can deduce that the SSD speed comparison test is complete nonsense. The SSD speeds of the Windows machines clearly are average SATA speeds and the Macbook Pro's clearly are not. It did not come to your editorial minds that 'measured' speed differences like this must be fishy at least? Are you journalists or merely copyists?

Every person on earth able to think logically can deduce that these tests possibly can't be accurate and you still publish them without any moderation or comments. Really?
 
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I believe others have cited AMD's support of Metal. I don't think we're going to see NVidia chips again. When is the last time a Mac shipped with an NVidia card?

It was the mid-2014 15" MacBook Pro with the 750m. I'm pretty sure that was the last. That's 4 years ago so it's safe to say that Apple has no plans to make a deal with nVidia anytime in the near future. The whole lineup, including the trash can and iMac Pro is using AMD and I'm sure the new Mac Pro wouldn't be any different.
 
Wow. People just can’t handle the truth. COW does not come into with BlackMagic. See below. APFS barely affects the test. That’s also what I found in my own testing prior to and post APFS conversion.

 
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95%+ of the users won't notice ANY difference comparing to the previous generation as it was very fast even in the previous gen. I'm convinced that 90%+ (or more) of the users would exchange a faster SSD with Magsafe, one USB-A, SD card reader, HDR screen with smaller bezels (I still can't believe that didn't improve the screen in such regard .. in 2018!), a real "pro" device without touch bar, a better type of keyboard and Nvidia dGPU instead of crippled expensive laptop introducing dongle hell (80%+ of accessories are still not USB-C ready so 4xUSB-C only is total BS for majority of users even in 2018). Then I would not hesitate a sec to pay ~USD4500!! (in EU store) for a "regular" 15" 2.6GHz 16GB 1TB laptop. I still can't believe what they've managed to do to a great laptop that ended in 2015. Is this the true value device?? Maybe for 5%. Unfortunately I prefer MacOS over Win10, otherwise I would not even think about the current MPB lineup. This is not a value laptop for most. I love MPB, but this is over the top what I can accept. And ask ~USD10K for maxed out version even with 4T SSD?? Are they serious? I would call it an exponential rip off as in this case there is no linear price increase at all. They try every single time what people can still accept. Honestly they don't care about users at all - users are just an instrument to get more and more $. What should people be happy about? Just grab this "amazing" piece and be happy. Majority of others have to wait again and just hope that it will get better next time.. What a sad picture of the current MBP lineup.

The screens are not the same as the original Retina MBPs. They are 10-bit P3 displays. HDR will not arrive until they have OLED displays and if you're complaining about the price as it is, you can imagine what Apple would charge for OLED MBPs right now. It would probably add $600-1000 to the price. Many people would be willing to pay for it but not the majority of customers.

The machine is too thin for Magsafe. It's only thick enough for USB-C ports. Same thing with USB-A, too big. These notebooks are just 15mm thick and the 13" is about half a mm or so less. MagSafe is never coming back. It doesn't matter how many people complain about it. They simply are not going back to a thicker chassis. Heck, the MacBook Air will probably be killed off very soon. I wouldn't be surprised if the one for sale right now is the last one. The 3rd gen retina MBPs are officially discontinued as well.

On the bright side, these machines are simply a joy to carry around. The 4 lbs. for a 15" machine is lighter than ever and the 13" weighs barely nothing. It's really remarkable for machines with this sort of power.
 
The screens are not the same as the original Retina MBPs. They are 10-bit P3 displays. HDR will not arrive until they have OLED displays and if you're complaining about the price as it is, you can imagine what Apple would charge for OLED MBPs right now. It would probably add $600-1000 to the price. Many people would be willing to pay for it but not the majority of customers.

The machine is too thin for Magsafe. It's only thick enough for USB-C ports. Same thing with USB-A, too big. These notebooks are just 15mm thick and the 13" is about half a mm or so less. MagSafe is never coming back. It doesn't matter how many people complain about it. They simply are not going back to a thicker chassis. Heck, the MacBook Air will probably be killed off very soon. I wouldn't be surprised if the one for sale right now is the last one. The 3rd gen retina MBPs are officially discontinued as well.

On the bright side, these machines are simply a joy to carry around. The 4 lbs. for a 15" machine is lighter than ever and the 13" weighs barely nothing. It's really remarkable for machines with this sort of power.
And lack of desirable ports.
 
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I can't wait until Type-A goes the way of the floppy disk. Type-C is reversible and faster. There is no benefit to Type-A other than legacy support. I wish manufacturers would flood the market with USB-C flash drives. External Type-C SSDs are readily available. https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Type-C-128GB-SDCZ450-128G-G46/dp/B01BUSN4M6?th=1

Yes the SD card slot. I'm sure wireless is not too far away. Until then get a hub!
Wouldn't a hub add size and weight to the svelte form factor of the MBP?
 
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Wouldn't a hub add size and weight to the svelte form factor of the MBP?

Of course. I don’t use one myself. Just the Apple dongles when I need them. I bought all the ones I needed when they were on sale back in 2016. I think they were $10-20 off depending on price. There are much cheaper ones out there but I never damage my cables and prefer to have 1st party stuff whenever possible. $9 for C->A wasn’t really much though. $19 is a little ridiculous!
 
A thing to remember about instant cloning is, if I’m
Not wrong, it doesn’t copy each and every bit, but it creates a “shortcut” like thing instead of duplicating
 
The screens are not the same as the original Retina MBPs. They are 10-bit P3 displays. HDR will not arrive until they have OLED displays and if you're complaining about the price as it is, you can imagine what Apple would charge for OLED MBPs right now. It would probably add $600-1000 to the price. Many people would be willing to pay for it but not the majority of customers.

The machine is too thin for Magsafe. It's only thick enough for USB-C ports. Same thing with USB-A, too big. These notebooks are just 15mm thick and the 13" is about half a mm or so less. MagSafe is never coming back. It doesn't matter how many people complain about it. They simply are not going back to a thicker chassis. Heck, the MacBook Air will probably be killed off very soon. I wouldn't be surprised if the one for sale right now is the last one. The 3rd gen retina MBPs are officially discontinued as well.

On the bright side, these machines are simply a joy to carry around. The 4 lbs. for a 15" machine is lighter than ever and the 13" weighs barely nothing. It's really remarkable for machines with this sort of power.

It truly is impressive to carry it around. Will not even get started comparing it with my 17 inch mbp...
 
A thing to remember about instant cloning is, if I’m
Not wrong, it doesn’t copy each and every bit, but it creates a “shortcut” like thing instead of duplicating

It doesn’t copy any bits of the file at all. It just creates a new pointer to the file. It’s literally milliseconds and it’s not what’s happening here.

There’s very little difference between HFS and APFS in speed. What you’re seeing in these tests is all SSD performance.

https://malcont.net/2017/09/apfs-vs-hfs-benchmarks-on-2017-macbook-pro-with-macos-high-sierra/2/
 
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These are the type of things Apple haters / Windows PC fanboys overlook when determining the true value of an Apple device.
It's not all roses. Just as an apple hater may overlook the SSD speeds, an apple lover might overlook that GPU table in the article. Almost 50% of the category average for such pricey machines, yikes.
 
Yup “better” specs until you turn on the windows machine and you get hit by how terrible Windows 10 is. Earlier this year, I made a sudden “comeback” to Windows and boy boy was I disappointed.

Interface looked great especially considering I came from a Windows Vista Machine and never wanted to go back to Windows until I heard some good things about 10. I had issues like after waking up my windows machine from sleep, the start menu stops working. It had a glitch where it didnt allow me to modify C drive folders even though I was the sole user and administrator of the computer. Also, I am a market researcher and run a consultancy, I believe after visiting some low security sites (which I do much more on my mac) after only 2 weeks of use on my windows machine, I would get critical errors and the computer would force me to sign out. After that, I didn't want o risk my work flow by having to wipe my drive hence decided to trash the windows machine. THAT was not the experience I was hoping for.

So yeah, you can all complain about how expensive the macs are etc. But now you begin to realize why a chunk of journalists and designers and people who do media work choose to keep their workflow smooth and safe by using MacOS. I'd rather pay an extra 1.5k for the better built MacBooks.

PS my windows computer was a 15 inch XPS. The very fabled "best" windows laptop.
 
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What I do know is that you will soon see that yet again, Apple will have set a benchmark for the evaluation of laptop computers: soon we can observe how the rest of the market will jump on the bandwagon.

The GPU discussions in the laptop world are most probably strongly led by gamer folks, but Apple computers aim to be a tool for professionals.

This so un true even by Apples own metric's professionals using MBP's are a small minority ie <15%

I would guess there are more MBP owners using bootcamp or parallels to take advantage on W10 programmes etc and games than professionals using MBP's

Given the largest user base is average/normal users they are most likely to wish for better GPU performance and a more balanced laptop for all round use than just bragging rights on some video work or 4 monitors etc :rolleyes:

else

Not much to take from this posted article other than comparing to previous MBP as the other comparisons have obvious flaws
 
Interface looked great especially considering I came from a Windows Vista Machine and never wanted to go back to Windows until I heard some good things about 10. I had issues like after waking up my windows machine from sleep, the start menu stops working. It had a glitch where it didnt allow me to modify C drive folders even though I was the sole user and administrator of the computer. Also, I am a market researcher and run a consultancy, I believe after visiting some low security sites (which I do much more on my mac) after only 2 weeks of use on my windows machine, I would get critical errors and the computer would force me to sign out. After that, I didn't want o risk my work flow by having to wipe my drive hence decided to trash the windows machine. THAT was not the experience I was hoping for.

So yeah, you can all complain about how expensive the macs are etc. But now you begin to realize why a chunk of journalists and designers and people who do media work choose to keep their workflow smooth and safe by using MacOS. I'd rather pay an extra 1.5k for the better built MacBooks.

PS my windows computer was a 15 inch XPS. The very fabled "best" windows laptop.

Agreed. Apple is much better at catering to people who go to sites with little security that don't bother doing anything responsible. They have the market tied up for people who have no clue how to use a computer.
 
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Omg what a farce. They test the MacBook Pro, a $3K machine with the newest samsung drives (that get 2.5GB/s on PC too!), vs some PC laptops that are less than half the price that use the old drives. Ok, neato.

You clearly missed the title '
'Fastest SSD Ever' in a Laptop'
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Best part is that you can get PCIe laptops from Dell and they just didn't choose them.

We have the precision 5520 with PCIE SSD's and they are fast but not nearly as fast as these
 
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