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I'm going to say this over and over (it's not going to matter): Haas needs to fire Grosjean and throw some of the Rich Energy money at Alexander Rossi. That guy is an absolute monster on the race track.

He was unreal today and had multiple setback and still took second. Absolute masterpiece of a drive.
 
Who would of thought Indy Car could ever make F1 look like a snooze fest. :eek:

What a great spectacle today! It had everything you could have asked for including a thrilling last few laps. It was so cool how many drivers were expressing emotions. Pagenaud was so happy, Rahal was steaming for so long. I was a bit surprised at Rossi freaking out like that over the radio. I liked it as a spectator but not sure that would fly in F1.

Interesting motorsport day though, an exciting Indy on the same day as .. Monaco.
 
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A fairly good race I thought, Hamilton demonstrated again why he’s the best on the grid I think. Ferrari are a shambles and it’s becoming the norm which is sad. Roll on the Isle of Man TT this week which makes all circuit racing look as dull as ditch water lol.
 
A fairly good race I thought, Hamilton demonstrated again why he’s the best on the grid I think. Ferrari are a shambles and it’s becoming the norm which is sad. Roll on the Isle of Man TT this week which makes all circuit racing look as dull as ditch water lol.
Ferrari need to up their game for sure. You do wonder if Charles had qualified up the front if he’d have been able to do something. But given it was Monaco, probably not.
 
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So, I’m feeling confident that Vettel is retiring at the end of the season.

What are opinions as to who would be a replacement? I’m thinking the top contenders are Perez, Magnussen, Grosjean, Bottas.

I’d like to see Grosjean fill the seat. :apple:
 
So, I’m feeling confident that Vettel is retiring at the end of the season.

What are opinions as to who would be a replacement? I’m thinking the top contenders are Perez, Magnussen, Grosjean, Bottas.

I’d like to see Grosjean fill the seat. :apple:
I’d like to see Grosjean retire! No way he’s in contention for a Ferrari seat.
If Vettel retires (and I think I agree with you here), then it’s imo most likely we would see
Max or Ricardo.
 
So, I’m feeling confident that Vettel is retiring at the end of the season.

What are opinions as to who would be a replacement? I’m thinking the top contenders are Perez, Magnussen, Grosjean, Bottas.

I’d like to see Grosjean fill the seat. :apple:

Grosjean is not going to happen, IMO.

Bottas could be an option as it would allow Norris to take his seat at Mercedes.

I'd love to see Daniel, but he is on contract with Renault through the end of 2020 (Renault wanted a two-year commitment and is said to be paying him GBP 20 million a year). So it might be expensive for Ferrari to buy him out.
 
So, I’m feeling confident that Vettel is retiring at the end of the season.

What are opinions as to who would be a replacement? I’m thinking the top contenders are Perez, Magnussen, Grosjean, Bottas.

I’d like to see Grosjean fill the seat. :apple:

I said a couple of years ago I though Vettel would retire in his early 30’s and that Ferrari would be his last team too. I think you’re right he’ll retire either this season or next as it’s clear Ferrari are in an era where they are struggling to develop the car and there is unlikely he’ll get a competitive seat elsewhere to challenge Mercedes.

Grosjean is one of those drivers where I think he’s been in F1 too long and hasn’t justified his presence IMO. Ten years on from his debut I think he’s had it good for a touch too long now.

My prediction is Hamilton will go to Ferrari in 2022 for his swan song.
 
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I said a couple of years ago I though Vettel would retire in his early 30’s and that Ferrari would be his last team too. I think you’re right he’ll retire either this season or next as it’s clear Ferrari are in an era where they are struggling to develop the car and there is unlikely he’ll get a competitive seat elsewhere to challenge Mercedes.

Grosjean is one of those drivers where I think he’s been in F1 too long and hasn’t justified his presence IMO. Ten years on from his debut I think he’s had it good for a touch too long now.

My prediction is Hamilton will go to Ferrari in 2022 for his swan song.
I don't see Lewis in a Ferrari. I think he wants another title or two and his best bet for that (on current form) is Mercedes.
Its not like he needs the money!
 
I think it's a lot of smoke and mirrors.. F1 always gets a few crazy rumors every season. If true, Vettel is probably using it to sway some power back in his camp. Maybe he's getting the feeling Ferrari won't renew him and he'll do them one better by walking away sooner but cooler heads will prevail and he'll stick around. He makes way too much doing what he loves, I don't see him ending his contract before it expires.

But let's say he does retire .. the available drivers don't look very strong. I think Hulkenberg is who they would go after, but the rumors already exist of Red Bull wanting Nico to replace Gasly next season.
 
I think it's a lot of smoke and mirrors.. F1 always gets a few crazy rumors every season. If true, Vettel is probably using it to sway some power back in his camp. Maybe he's getting the feeling Ferrari won't renew him and he'll do them one better by walking away sooner but cooler heads will prevail and he'll stick around. He makes way too much doing what he loves, I don't see him ending his contract before it expires.

But let's say he does retire .. the available drivers don't look very strong. I think Hulkenberg is who they would go after, but the rumors already exist of Red Bull wanting Nico to replace Gasly next season.
Even less chance of Hulkenberg to RBR than there is in Grosjean to Ferrari IMO.
They use the TR feeder team.
 
I think how Leclerc does this year may also have a lot of bearing on what Vettel and Ferrari do. If Leclerc, in spite of what we've seen in the first 6 races, ends up the #1 driver at the end of the year, I think it's more likely that Vettel will go, and Ferrari will bring in a #2 driver.
 
I don't see Lewis in a Ferrari. I think he wants another title or two and his best bet for that (on current form) is Mercedes.

Agreed. As you note, he certainly doesn't need the money and I don't see the "mystique" of driving for Ferrari as being a compelling reason for him to go (he was groomed by McLaren and his hero - Senna - had his glory years there and never drove for Ferrari).


Even less chance of Hulkenberg to RBR than there is in Grosjean to Ferrari IMO. They use the TR feeder team.

True, but I cannot see RBR promoting Kvyat back into the seat and while they could promote Albon, I am not sure he'd be any better than Gasly.
 
Agreed. As you note, he certainly doesn't need the money and I don't see the "mystique" of driving for Ferrari as being a compelling reason for him to go (he was groomed by McLaren and his hero - Senna - had his glory years there and never drove for Ferrari).


True, but I cannot see RBR promoting Kvyat back into the seat and while they could promote Albon, I am not sure he'd be any better than Gasly.

I'm still not sure of Albon but sometimes I get the feeling he could be really good, I guess six races isn't enough to decide just yet. I think the rumor of Hulk to RBR would be a sort of retaliation of Horner to Cyril for scooping Daniel. Those guys are ruthless, but also Hulk would fit in nicely as their #2. It's still early, hopefully Gasly puts in some good performances. Seems like a good guy.
 
Agreed. As you note, he certainly doesn't need the money and I don't see the "mystique" of driving for Ferrari as being a compelling reason for him to go (he was groomed by McLaren and his hero - Senna - had his glory years there and never drove for Ferrari).
Senna said he wanted to end his career at Ferrari and I think it’s on every drivers shopping list even if it’s for a season. It’s not about money but the marque and being part of the Scuderia’s history. I think if Mercedes are knocked off the perch then it’ll be a possibility. Lewis has achieved it all already and it’s just a few stats being chased now for his own sake, he’s already one of the greats. I can’t see Ferrari being consistently competitive for a few years yet, and they have a severe lack of ability in putting together a good technical and development team.
 
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Senna said he wanted to end his career at Ferrari and I think it’s on every drivers shopping list even if it’s for a season. It’s not about money but the marque and being part of the Scuderia’s history. I think if Mercedes are knocked off the perch then it’ll be a possibility. Lewis has achieved it all already and it’s just a few stats being chased now for his own sake, he’s already one of the greats. I can’t see Ferrari being consistently competitive for a few years yet, and they have a severe lack of ability in putting together a good technical and development team.
A few stats? I think it’s a bit more than that!

But I just can’t see Ferrari being attractive as they once were. The team get it wrong so often.
Design
Development
Strategy
Team orders

Then there is the merry go round of team principles.

Not an attractive situation at all.
 
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Senna said he wanted to end his career at Ferrari and I think it’s on every drivers shopping list even if it’s for a season. It’s not about money but the marque and being part of the Scuderia’s history. I think if Mercedes are knocked off the perch then it’ll be a possibility. Lewis has achieved it all already and it’s just a few stats being chased now for his own sake, he’s already one of the greats. I can’t see Ferrari being consistently competitive for a few years yet, and they have a severe lack of ability in putting together a good technical and development team.

I agree with this analysis. :apple:
 
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