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Senna said he wanted to end his career at Ferrari and I think it’s on every drivers shopping list even if it’s for a season. It’s not about money but the marque and being part of the Scuderia’s history. I think if Mercedes are knocked off the perch then it’ll be a possibility. Lewis has achieved it all already and it’s just a few stats being chased now for his own sake, he’s already one of the greats. I can’t see Ferrari being consistently competitive for a few years yet, and they have a severe lack of ability in putting together a good technical and development team.

Yep. Hamilton has also said many times driving for Ferrari is something he would love to do if it works out. Toto Wolff has acknowledged that he and Lewis spoke about going to Ferrari in the future. If anyone has Lewis on Instagram, he did nice pose between two Ferrari's this weekend. All that aside, Ferrari have a long way to go before Hamilton would dare make the switch.
 
It will never happen for a variety of reasons (money, ego, sponsorship etc.) but I have always thought it would be very interesting if every team / driver had to use identical cars and engines. Absolutely no changes, improvements, tweaks allowed. Would this not test the true skills of the drivers on an equal footing?

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It will never happen for a variety of reasons (money, ego, sponsorship etc.) but I have always thought it would be very interesting if every team / driver had to use identical cars and engines. Absolutely no changes, improvements, tweaks allowed. Would this not test the true skills of the drivers on an equal footing?

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It would but you’d probably find it to be quite a procession.
 
It will never happen for a variety of reasons (money, ego, sponsorship etc.) but I have always thought it would be very interesting if every team / driver had to use identical cars and engines. Absolutely no changes, improvements, tweaks allowed. Would this not test the true skills of the drivers on an equal footing?

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There are plenty of series which do operate like this, but you still get performance gaps. Look at IndyCar, where Rodger Penske is king with the same cars.

There's also an argument to be made that part of a drivers job is development. Having good communication with engineers and feeding back the issues with the car, how the car is doing, and being able to give the engineer as much data to work with as possible. These are all part of a drivers skillset.

Having equal cars doesn't necessarily mean the best driver wins, even if you do equalise everything. Some drivers suit different cars better. Vettel likes a stable car that he can really really abuse. The slightly lazy power delivery gives him the confidence to deploy power that others do not. But when they switched to the turbos, with the spiky power output he struggled. Barrichello was a right foot braker, who struggled with the Ferraris which were setup to be better with the left foot (which suited Schumacher). And then there's the different tracks - Irvine always ran well at Suzuka, etc.

There's just too many variables to stick them all in the same car and assume the winner is the best.
 
There are plenty of series which do operate like this, but you still get performance gaps. Look at IndyCar, where Rodger Penske is king with the same cars.

There's also an argument to be made that part of a drivers job is development. Having good communication with engineers and feeding back the issues with the car, how the car is doing, and being able to give the engineer as much data to work with as possible. These are all part of a drivers skillset.

Having equal cars doesn't necessarily mean the best driver wins, even if you do equalise everything. Some drivers suit different cars better. Vettel likes a stable car that he can really really abuse. The slightly lazy power delivery gives him the confidence to deploy power that others do not. But when they switched to the turbos, with the spiky power output he struggled. Barrichello was a right foot braker, who struggled with the Ferraris which were setup to be better with the left foot (which suited Schumacher). And then there's the different tracks - Irvine always ran well at Suzuka, etc.

There's just too many variables to stick them all in the same car and assume the winner is the best.

You make some very good points. Thanks for the input.
 
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For what it's worth I really like the idea, it's just hard to make it work.

Watch the Race of Champions stuff. It's obviously less serious, but can be good fun. Oddly, Vettel tends to be very good in it - which suggests he's very adaptable. But yet in F1, he needs things just right. It's interesting.
 
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Probably Kimi's last season as well?

Despite the rumours, I think both Kimi and Vettel stick around for another year. Those two guys absolutely LOVE F1 and driving on tracks around the world. They've actually said it many times but then there's Lewis who said he wouldn't stick around much longer and now he says he can easily do 5 more years. These guys change with the wind.
 
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And, money talks, too :)
One year Vettel received $5M, a BONUS, for winning the championship.

Despite the rumours, I think both Kimi and Vettel stick around for another year. Those two guys absolutely LOVE F1 and driving on tracks around the world. They've actually said it many times but then there's Lewis who said he wouldn't stick around much longer and now he says he can easily do 5 more years. These guys change with the wind.
 
It will never happen for a variety of reasons (money, ego, sponsorship etc.) but I have always thought it would be very interesting if every team / driver had to use identical cars and engines. Absolutely no changes, improvements, tweaks allowed. Would this not test the true skills of the drivers on an equal footing?

We have that now in Formula Two, do we not?
 
I mean.. it is F1 so I wouldn't be surprised but it doesn't make sense. Alonso (correctly) left Ferrari because they weren't able to beat Merc. Ferrari now have Leclerc and Vettel. The drivers have never been the problem, the car isn't good enough. I'm not sure how Alonso changes that. If anything his tactics might hurt Charles.
 
I mean.. it is F1 so I wouldn't be surprised but it doesn't make sense. Alonso (correctly) left Ferrari because they weren't able to beat Merc. Ferrari now have Leclerc and Vettel. The drivers have never been the problem, the car isn't good enough. I'm not sure how Alonso changes that. If anything his tactics might hurt Charles.

I’m inclined to agree. However, perhaps if Vettel retires, bring in Alonso for one year as a stop gap to Mick with Alonso accepting a mentoring role to LeClerc? While not likely, I could see Alonso doing this for a chance to drive a final season in F1 with Ferrari. He has never officially retired from F1.

Most likely Vettel will surprise us all and stay through 2020 for the paycheck then walk away. :apple:
 
I don't see Fernando returning to Ferrari. He's made it clear his new goal is the triple crown. He's also down for a testing program for the Toyota Dakar program, with 2020 being on the calendar.
 
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I don't see Fernando returning to Ferrari. He's made it clear his new goal is the triple crown. He's also down for a testing program for the Toyota Dakar program, with 2020 being on the calendar.

Thanks for the information. I doubt he would forfeit Dakar to return. Dakar will be a great challenge to undertake. It’s a beast of a rally. :apple:
 
I loved that race I must admit, but I’d hope it wasn’t defined as the best of Buttons career. It was a messy race where he nearly ended up out with Hamilton and escaped a penalty on Alonso which he was very lucky IMO. The pressure he put on Vettel was awesome though and ultimately secured him the win. I’d like to think he had a few more wins which were executed better than Montreal 2011 though!
 
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Ferrari converts their P3 pace to Q3 with Vettel on Pole by two-tenths over Lewis with LeClerc in third. With Verstappen 11th and Bottas 6th and the new Mercedes engine's reliability in question, this could be Ferrari's weekend.
 
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Ferrari converts their P3 pace to Q3 with Vettel on Pole by two-tenths over Lewis with LeClerc in third. With Verstappen 11th and Bottas 6th and the new Mercedes engine's reliability in question, this could be Ferrari's weekend.
Last time Vettel got pole (Germany 2018) it worked out so well!

Still good to see Ferrari there or there abouts. Apparently their long runs weren’t as good on tyres though, so who knows.

Good qualifying from Ricardo. Hope he gets a podium, but that would need a DNF from the front imo. Still the wall of champions has already claimed one victim this weekend.
 
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