2019 iPhone Could Feature 10MP Front Camera, 10MP and 14MP Rear Lenses, No USB-C

[himanshumodi]

I am curious to know what naming convention they'll adopt for 2019 phones. People generally call iphone 10 and 10s as the letter X and Xs (or maybe that's just the people I talk to?). And if so, iPhone XI will be confusing from a branding and recall perspective.

 

[iSayuSay]

No USB-C. no buy. Simple as that. I want a unified cable over all my iOS devices. My battery pack already has USB-C input, and it's about time for the phone and iPad to match.

Oh and don't forget 5G cellular. I wouldn't waste $1K for a phone that's going to be vintage in a year or two.
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No USB-C is obvious from a technical standpoint.

There are no advantages to having USB-C on the iPhone. Users aren't attaching an external monitor or storage to the iPhone.

In short, iPhone isn't iPad. It has no use for USB-C.

Well I don't want to carry two sets of cables for both iPhone and iPad when travelling. Is that a good enough reason?

There is no advantage either by staying with outdated Lightning standard, doesn't it?
Either iPad Pro stays with Lightning (which didn't happen)
Or the next iPhone follows suit and switch to USB-C (which SHOULD happen)

 

[bunce66]

It MUST have USB-C. I think prototypes may have lightning ports temporarily since they're used to working with them.

I am genuinely curious why some people think it must have USB-C. What are the advantages over lightning? Yes, it's newer and might transfer/charge a little bit faster. But what else really?

The only reason I've heard is that it puts it in line with the new iPad Pro and people who own an iPad Pro won't have to carry around 2 cables. But what about people who already have accessories and plenty of Lightning cables that they might want to continue using them?
The transition from the original Plug to Lighting took over a year back in 2012 and I'm not sure the advantage of USB-C over Lighting is so huge that it justifies such a shift.

For me personally, either plug wouldn't make much of a difference and it's the last thing I'd consider when making the purchase. Why would such a thing be a deal breaker? Aren't there about 100 things more important than this?

 

[Brien]

I am curious to know what naming convention they'll adopt for 2019 phones. People generally call iphone 10 and 10s as the letter X and Xs (or maybe that's just the people I talk to?). And if so, iPhone XI will be confusing from a branding and recall perspective.

I suppose iPhone mini / iPhone / iPhone Pro make too much sense?

 

[Crow_Servo]

I am curious to know what naming convention they'll adopt for 2019 phones. People generally call iphone 10 and 10s as the letter X and Xs (or maybe that's just the people I talk to?). And if so, iPhone XI will be confusing from a branding and recall perspective.

iPhone 2019
iPhone Pro 5.8
iPhone Pro 6.5

Maybe. Since the rumor is that the 6.5 (Max) could have an exclusive triple-lense rear camera, they could give that phone its own unique name, but I doubt it. They used to give the Plus phones better cameras too. Only the 2018 Max (a Plus under another name) received no exclusive features over the 5.8 phone.

 

[PickUrPoison]

iPhone 2019
iPhone Pro 5.8
iPhone Pro 6.5

Maybe. Since the rumor is that the 6.5 (Max) could have an exclusive triple-lense rear camera, they could give that phone its own unique name, but I doubt it. They used to give the Plus phones better cameras too. Only the 2018 Max (a Plus under another name) received no exclusive features over the 5.8 phone.

My guess is iPhone 11 and 11 Max for the OLED models and 11R for the LCD.

 

[Whathappened]

WHAT!!! No USB-C?! Who does Tim Cook think he is? Steve Jobs never would have allowed...

Oh wait, the new phones are not released. This is just a rumor. I should probably calm down and not get so upset about nothing, as should anyone else who was thinking of commenting something similar.

And even if they release it without usb c you should realize that it does not matter for your life quality.
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iPhone 2019
iPhone Pro 5.8
iPhone Pro 6.5

Maybe. Since the rumor is that the 6.5 (Max) could have an exclusive triple-lense rear camera, they could give that phone its own unique name, but I doubt it. They used to give the Plus phones better cameras too. Only the 2018 Max (a Plus under another name) received no exclusive features over the 5.8 phone.

Only? They changed the way they are releasing iPhones. Apple does not care what they used to do. Thats Samsung thinking.

 

[Smartass]

If it does have USB-C it will probably include some type of proprietary chip so not any USB cable can be used.

USB-C is a total mess. I've only learned one month ago, taht not all USB-C cables are the same, there's many different standards of it. And dont get me started on USB-C headphones, that area is a total mess right now. One good example are headphones made from Libratrone especially for google phones. With them you can listen to calls, but cant listen to music on Pixel. On samsung phones, you cant listen to calls with them, but you can listen to music.

 

[T-Bob]

They sell USB C Qi mats now, have one myself. I have had 3 macs with C, have IPad Pro, and yet do not share the ‘must have one cable’ desire. AirPower will likely use lightning as well. Do the people here demanding the port for their purchase actually own other Apple products with C, or is this more to help share with Android devices?

USB-C is a total mess. I've only learned one month ago, taht not all USB-C cables are the same, there's many different standards of it. And dont get me started on USB-C headphones, that area is a total mess right now and it showed well on CES, when not one major OEM introduced any new usbc headphones. Currently, i prefer lightning to usbc, when it comes to charging my phone.

In a way this is an advantage, as high bandwidth cables are expensive so you wouldn’t want them all to be the same. It can be tricky distinguishing between lower tier cables for slower data speeds, but usually a tb3 rated cable will be advertised as so.

I was chiefly glad the IPad went C as it means you don’t have to use the expensive C to lightning cables anymore for faster charge, any old C cable will do (to a point). Video out is a messy experience from what I have tried, it letterboxes on 4K monitor and won’t even work on 5k. Only keyboard and no input support makes it more of a rare use novelty than a useful feature for me.

 

[The Game 161]

Be interesting what else features wise apple has plans unless IOS 13 will have more feature based

 

[chfilm]

Given the latest iPads having USB-C, as long as Apple (a) works with the MFi accessory vendors well in advance of release of a new iPhone, and (b) comes up with a compact male USB-C to female Lightning adaptor (to avoid obsoleting existing accessories...and such a gadget would also let people use Lightning earphones/headphones with a Mac), IMO having USB-C on all iDevices as well as Macs would be a huge improvement, both toward standards, and to increase the market for quality USB-C cables and bring down the price. Not to mention the possibility of 3rd party accessories (such as external stereo input or DACs) with cross-platform support.

With those prerequisites, IMO the USB-C connector is compact enough that there's no excuse NOT to make that change.

Exactly, they should put it both on AirPods and the new iPhones so we can ditch lightning altogether.
I thought there was even a EU law forcing all smartphone makers to adapt usb c to avoid unnecessary cable waste, whatever happened to that!!

 

[AnthonyG6]

I don't care about USB-C or Lightning Cable, its all about wireless charging baby! I can't even remember the last time I plugged my iPhone X into a lightning cable.

Apple just bring out AirPower and AirPods Gen 2, you can do what you want with the ports.

Probably not too long now until we have zero ports or even a sim tray?

 

[mscice]

faster cpu more pixels .. lol this is the best a company can do?

no point in upgrading, wasting money.

 

[MrGuder]

Ever since the dongle era hit it’s been nothing but problems. Apple you must unify ports across your products. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro I can’t even connect my iPhone 6s to without an adapter. Just plain silly.

 

[UltimaKilo]

It is so freakin early for iPhone rumors that it’s hard to believe anything. I’ll start paying attention to these in April.

 

[Wide opeN]

I'm a little concerned over durability - as others have pointed out USB C has a nasty habit of loosening significantly over time whereas lightning seems to hold up a lot better.

This times x 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the exception of course of USB-A, micro usb, and USB-C in real world usage have been trash. The port ALWAYS becomes loose with enough time. This has never happened with me and lightning.

Wires are a thing of the past anyway, but if I have to use one, I'd prefer it be lightning!!!
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I hate usb C. The next port change on iPhones should be no port.

100 percent agree with your statement!!!

 

[Wide opeN]

Exactly, they should put it both on AirPods and the new iPhones so we can ditch lightning altogether.
I thought there was even a EU law forcing all smartphone makers to adapt usb c to avoid unnecessary cable waste, whatever happened to that!!

How do you think the EU could ever dictate what an American company does with the physical design of it's phones!?
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I don't care about USB-C or Lightning Cable, its all about wireless charging baby! I can't even remember the last time I plugged my iPhone X into a lightning cable.

Apple just bring out AirPower and AirPods Gen 2, you can do what you want with the ports.

Probably not too long now until we have zero ports or even a sim tray?

This is my logic as well!!!

 

[iSayuSay]

I am genuinely curious why some people think it must have USB-C. What are the advantages over lightning? Yes, it's newer and might transfer/charge a little bit faster. But what else really?

The only reason I've heard is that it puts it in line with the new iPad Pro and people who own an iPad Pro won't have to carry around 2 cables. But what about people who already have accessories and plenty of Lightning cables that they might want to continue using them?
The transition from the original Plug to Lighting took over a year back in 2012 and I'm not sure the advantage of USB-C over Lighting is so huge that it justifies such a shift.

For me personally, either plug wouldn't make much of a difference and it's the last thing I'd consider when making the purchase. Why would such a thing be a deal breaker? Aren't there about 100 things more important than this?

The trend here is Apple going for USB-C on their pro lineups, and eventually everyone is going to go with USB-C and leaving Lightning behind. I can't imagine Apple would continuously using TWO sets of cables for both iPhone and iPad. It's like they're coming from different company

As you should know already, Apple is all about ecosystem. Why keeping two sets of cables while you can go with one? How long Apple would keep this difference between iPhone and iPad? 5 years, 10 years? Lightning is also one of a few proprietary port for mobile devices.

If Apple wants to keep Lightning around, then it should've stayed with it on the new iPad Pro.

 

[Internet Enzyme]

It had BETTER have USB-C or Apple won't be getting a single penny from me. The IO inconsistency across Apple's product lines right now is totally bonkers, and it results in a terrible experience for customers. Apple should have put USB-C on its iOS devices the same year they added it to Macs.
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The "use" is product consistency. It's important for product lines to share the same IO.

In recent years, Apple has abandoned their "It just works" philosophy and replaced it with "Dongle all the things." And it's pissed off customers for long enough. Consistency consistency consistency! It's important! My iPad should use the same cable as my iPhone. And my iPad and iPhone should have the same port as my computer. THAT is forward-thinking. THAT is the definition of "It just works." On the contrary, intentionally putting different ports on all your products is ANTI-consumer. It's ANTI-"It just works." We need consistency. We're sick of this Lightning nonsense. Lightning is a port that became antiquated the day USB-C was introduced on the MacBook. It has to go.

What are you talking about "apple has abandoned their 'it just works' philosophy"? How can this 'consistency consistency consistency' thing reconcile with the fact that magsafe and 30 pin coexisted incredibly well forever? i mean what the hell are you talking about 'my iphone should have the same charging port as my macbook'—theyre different products with different specifications. The iphone does not need I/O—thats how it differs from the pro iPad and the Mac. Lightning is a great mobile port with ubiquity, and consistency is not a good argument against that

 

[tbayrgs]

How do you think the EU could ever dictate what an American company does with the physical design of it's phones!?

Seriously? How about by not letting iPhones be sold in the EU if they don’t meet a specific requirement.
[doublepost=1547745655][/doublepost]I see comments about ditching the wired port entirely. That would immediately eliminate the ability to use CarPlay on millions of vehicles worldwide. Not going to happen anytime soon.

It’s one thing to irritate customers because they need to replace some cables. How about needing to replace a car to regain functionality.

 

[patent10021]

Wow, hideous. Makes me want to buy wort remover.

 

[BreuerEditor]

For the love of Jobs, would Apple knock off this protruding camera garbage? I understand the 3-lens camera is just a mock, but I just don't understand the need to have it sticking out...just make it flush with the back making the battery larger and giving us what we all want...not a thinner phone, but longer battery life. I just don't get it... USB-C doesn't bother me at this point.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

For the love of Jobs, would Apple knock off this protruding camera garbage? I understand the 3-lens camera is just a mock, but I just don't understand the need to have it sticking out...just make it flush with the back making the battery larger and giving us what we all want...not a thinner phone, but longer battery life. I just don't get it... USB-C doesn't bother me at this point.

You do realize that the phones would have to be very thick in order to have flush cameras at this point? And, if the added space is to be utilized for more battery volume, they'd also be very heavy.

iPhone X, XS, XS Max are already thicker than iPhone 5/5s/SE. XR is a lot thicker.
XS Max is the heaviest iPhone ever at 208 grams, XR is third.

Nobody wants these phones to get even thicker and heavier. You're free to add a case to have the camera flush.

 

[aaronhead14]

Consistency is not a good argument against that

Yes, it is.

When literally every other product in 2019 has USB-C, the lack of it on the iPhone is incredibly frustrating. It's not something you can argue with. The vast majority of people are fed up with proprietary connectors. We've grown up as a society, and we don't fall for that nonsense anymore. It's arguably the #1 reason that loads of people aren't buying iPhones anymore. Especially now that the iPad has USB-C.

Your posts defending Lightning are ludicrous. It's absurd for a port to exist only for a single product. What is this, 2007?

 

[chfilm]

How do you think the EU could ever dictate what an American company does with the physical design of it's phones!?
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This is my logic as well!!!

Just like that: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...argers-because-theyre-still-not-standardized/

I see so far it was all just voluntarily and apple didn’t play along. I really hope they will change their mind by themselves or will be forced.

About wireless, sure it’s nice, but I think we can all agree that for example we won’t see wireless charging in economy class in airplanes anytime soon, neither in public trains or restaurants, or cars, whereas usb a ports are everywhere now.
Now, with an iPad and wireless usb c headphones on the road, it’s a real PAIN IN THE A** to carry not just a usb a->c cable, but also a usb a-> Lightning, AND a usb c>c for fast charging later on, AND a usb c-> lightning, for fast charging the iPhone and to be able to charge iPhone from iPad. It’s ridiculous.