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2019 iPhones Could Have Smaller Notch as Apple 'Looking Into' Combining Face ID and Front Camera
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Agree 100%! You do get used to the notch after a while, but it would absolutely be less cluttered and easier on the eyes if they had the software interface make the entire top area black. A great example is in the music app, when you select a song and a virtual card for that song pops up. They make the “ears” black and it looks fantastic (see attached photo).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKCtjgFWAAApBxB?format=jpg&name=large
I wish there was an option in settings that let the user choose if they wanted black “ears” or white “ears” in safari amd throughout iOS where appropriate (e.g. the image on the left).
https://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/apps.jpg
I wasn't born yesterday so yes I am. It's external then internal, external, internal. The notch is clearly an either year upgrade. It's an internal component that is almost yearly upgraded (camera's) yet does have an external aspect to it. Most recent example of fixing an undesirable aspect would be the 2016 to 2017 MBP keyboard.
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Kind of goes to show that even in their own app design, the ears are an undesirable design aspect.
Exactly how it should have been implemented... excellent mockup. How the current design got out the door without even CONSIDERING the photo above as a better implementation is beyond me. And don't tell me it was on the table because only a guy who wears tennis shoes to a fancy restaurant would select the one Apple shipped. Amateur hour.
Well you can't get to the better version without getting through the first version. People are getting the benefit of the facial recognition now. I use it everyday all the time.
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Ha you think Apple didn't consider this and that you are smarter than all those other people who have spent years building this stuff and designing actual hardware and software.
It's always great to work with know-it-alls.
How are you planning to remove the notch without removing the camera too?
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YIKES! that thing is ugly. Its got a larger bezel on the bottom two skinny side bezels and a notch for the camera. YUCK!
The notch, as noted over and over elsewhere, is a deliberate aesthetic choice that immediately identifies the phone as an iPhone X when seen out and about. It gives the screen a distinctive shape while also providing orientation on the front of the display for the gestures (that is to say that it reinforces where the “top” of the phone is located). I could be totally wrong, but I suspect the notch will be here as long as the home button was with us.
How are you planning to remove the notch without removing the camera too?
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YIKES! that thing is ugly. Its got a larger bezel on the bottom two skinny side bezels and a notch for the camera. YUCK!
would rather have a thin, solid black "bar" on the bottom (hey they could even put the touch ID under the screen in there.....) than have a literal notch with cut outs at the top. Its disgusting. This "notch" is a better implementation of one.
What purpose would this serve? The sensor on the back was always a compromise that other manufacturers made in order to avoid a patent lawsuit from Apple’s much more logical placement on the home button. Why would Apple take such a bad step backward? As for under the glass, again, what is the purpose here? A virtual home button taking up screen space is hardly preferable to the existing home button. Face ID is the future and there is no going back.
Yeah no they won’t make the notch smaller or disappear because a smaller notch would be less aesthetically pleasing from the dimensions, the notch is their distinctive feature with all-screen-phones, they just worked UI around it with two areas next to the notch and also if Apple goes for something they won’t back down even if the decision was objectively wrong.
Also, the notch is a non-issue for anyone who uses the iPhone X.
Have you used an iPhone X/own one? I liked the renders beforehand but it doesn’t make sense. I much more prefer the rounded edges of the screen and the balanced design, a black bar would give you different corners.
To me the rounded corners of the screen look much cooler and coming from iPhone X the sharp corners of older iPhones look like from last century, tbh.
I believe Apple does some zoom in in standard setting, most videos have small bars to the sides just about the size of the notch. Since OLED gives you deep blacks, the screen blends quite well with the notch so watching videos isn’t really an issue and you don’t get a video cutout from the notch.
Also, the notch is a non-issue for anyone who uses the iPhone X.
Have you used an iPhone X/own one? I liked the renders beforehand but it doesn’t make sense. I much more prefer the rounded edges of the screen and the balanced design, a black bar would give you different corners.
To me the rounded corners of the screen look much cooler and coming from iPhone X the sharp corners of older iPhones look like from last century, tbh.
I disagree. It was unavoidable with the cameras and sensors being placed at the top of the screen. If they didn't want the nothc then they would have gone with a straight black bar across the top. By making the notch smaller (read: still there) they're going for even more screen real estate. Granted, the additional space is small, but is still an addition nonetheless.
Not sure where you're getting the 1/8 from. The notch takes up between 3-4% of space vertically (or horizontally in landscape mode). That's roughly 1/27 of the screen in that direction. Unless you're talking about the additional video that is getting cut off in the zoom mode (which is closer to 21%). But even if the notch wasn't there, you'd still be losing a lot of video in the zoom mode.
The top shows 16:9 video on iPhone X screen. The middle shows what 16:9 video is cut off in zoom mode. The bottom shows how many notches fit across the screen. And before you ask, why yes, I am bored at work today.
I believe Apple does some zoom in in standard setting, most videos have small bars to the sides just about the size of the notch. Since OLED gives you deep blacks, the screen blends quite well with the notch so watching videos isn’t really an issue and you don’t get a video cutout from the notch.
That "notch" isn't hiding nearly the same amount of camera/sensors that the iPhone X is. Guess how it would look if it was...
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Actually, it doesn't zoom in the standard setting. If you look at the reference image I originally posted, the top one shows how 16:9 video (iphone and tv standard aspect ratio) looks when played regularly. The white area on the sides of the red rectangle (video) are the black areas you're talking about. And yes, they do blend in with the notch nicely, almost making the display look like a non "X" iPhone.
It's when you use the zoom feature in order to get the video to take up the entire screen (the middle image in my reference) where you ultimately end up losing roughly 21% of the video (areas cut off at top/bottom and notch).
Not quite.
Here, I'll ilustrate:
3 G - Horrible reception and connectivity issues
3 GS
4 - Antennea gate
4 S
5 - TouchID issues
5 S
6 - Bendgate
6 S
Each iteration of new hardware was always the beta. The next generation, which is usually the "S" cycle, is the one that is the true release. Apple needs to test their design.
I took the liberty of putting each new generation the problems that plagued the devices in that "beta" stage. The only true iPhone has been the 1st Generation iPhone. That one came out as the one device that redefined everything. However, it took Apple 2 years worth of development to get it right. Apple, now expected to release an annual device to compete, can't dedicate 2 years of development to iron out the bugs. They can't do that only to have the hardware exterior design be replaced after only being used a year. Hence we get a beta release of the hardware, and the true release following next. That gives Apple 2 years worth of time with a hardware design revision.
The only time this cycle was broken was with the release of the iPhone 7. The iPhone X is a new beta hardware, plain and simple. It might perform and do everything many people do., but if you look at the iPhone forums, it is plagued by overheating, OLED issues, quirks in FaceID, speaker crackle, poor battery performance and a few others. Not to mention it's quite high price tag for a beta device.
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I expect the notch is here to stay (for a few iterations), but it will get smaller, as Apple engineers some of the sensors to require less notch space. They wouldn't keep a notch that was mostly unused space.
The analogue, I think, is the two-tone flash unit. When it first appeared, it was that obnoxious pill-shaped design that had so many Apple fans tearing their hair out and declaring that the era of clean iPhone design was at an end. Then Apple figured out how to get the same (or better) functionality in a safe, comfortable round shape, and our soul-crushing nightmare was over.
The analogue, I think, is the two-tone flash unit. When it first appeared, it was that obnoxious pill-shaped design that had so many Apple fans tearing their hair out and declaring that the era of clean iPhone design was at an end. Then Apple figured out how to get the same (or better) functionality in a safe, comfortable round shape, and our soul-crushing nightmare was over.
Or, "One giant notch for v1, one smaller notch for v2"-- the people have spoken.
This notch-reduced phone would be launched in late 2019, so you'll be waiting pretty much until 2020.You'll buy nothing if you keep waiting forever for the "next generations".
I was thinking, the notch could be reduced by not beign attached to the top, but rather, floating in the screen, like an island.
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And someone is silly if he thinks one has to read all the 222+ comments in the thread to quote a post.
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And someone is silly if he thinks one has to read all the 222+ comments in the thread to quote a post.
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At risk of derailing the thread arguments. Which is why you usually don't quote first page comments if the thread is already 6+ pages.
And y’all will love it when the notice is gone! just like the spinning beach ball in OS X