Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
2019 iPhones Could Have Smaller Notch as Apple 'Looking Into' Combining Face ID and Front Camera
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I’d rather a notch than entire bezel. Especially when most users don’t even notice it after a week of use.
Its an amazing feat of engineering. Our teams has worked so hard to virtually make the notch disappear.
No, no-one cares about that phone, also living with notch in Android world would be very bad, developers doesn't care to redesign their apps for device which have sold under million. X sales already are over 35 millions and lot of devs have updated their app design.
Essential sales would have been very bad without notch too. That phone didn't offer anything for the market.
But if you make a straight line at the top then it looks like every other phone. I’d rather have a phone with thin bezels everywhere it can.
To the ones complaining, and letting others know that they are “so glad to have waited”, ”beta testers”, I mean the article says 2019, so looks like they’ll be waiting s’more.
Till then, I personally am enjoying the X, and I hope they will too with XII?
I can assure you, I'm not such a guy. Sure, you notice that there is a black blob at the top, the same way you notice that the corners of the display are rounded. The question is whether it offends you, creates impracticalities or occupies your mind. And to that, the answer is: Not really.
Do bezels on any kind of screen, from smartphone over laptop to TV, offend you, creates impracticalities or occupies your mind? I'd guess the answer is also: Not really. But that doesn't change the fact that all else equal a thinner bezel is generally better (more screen real estate in a given external physical size*). And so would be a smaller notch. But 'generally better' is not the same as 'that notch was so noticeable, I am glad apple got rid of it'.
* Only exception could be handheld devices where to thin a bezel could in principle create problems with your fingers obscuring (but the current bezel size on the iPhone X doesn't really have any such problems).
Last edited:
That actually makes since. All phones will soon be true edge to edge and from the front there will be no way of knowing it's an iPhone.
I have, so your post with the likes you received is invalid. Stop making assumptions. If you’re happy with it, then good for you, just remember we don’t think alike. Hence why we are called individuals...I’ll sum up your post in one word: SILLY.
Last edited by a moderator:
Users: "We want a bezel-less phone!"
Apple: "You got it"
Users: "What this hell is this notch?"
Apple: "...where did you expect all this front-facing camera tech to live?"
Apple: "You got it"
Users: "What this hell is this notch?"
Apple: "...where did you expect all this front-facing camera tech to live?"
For you, but not for me. I’m glad you’re happy. However, Apple should address this issue so that everyone is happy.
[doublepost=1516126573][/doublepost]
You know what they say when you AssUme. Great job.
I know everyone is different and is entitled to their opinions/feelings, but how does the notch bother you. Even with me typing this message and looking at the top of the screen, I literally pay no mind to the notch.
Is it just not possible for you to ignore it? The notch takes up a VERY small part of the display.
I’m just genuinely curious on why it bothers you so much.
The 1/8th figure seemed like made up B.S., so I measured my X. The total height of the screen is 13.5cm of which the notch takes up 0.5. Where I come from that's less than 4% of the screen - i.e. 1/25th of the screen. And that's assuming, of course, the notch took up the entire width of the device.
You are free to have your own personal criteria for products you buy. But like saying that one will never buy a car with a hood/bonnet ornament, your position is one that might be best described as eccentric.
They cannot, any camera needs a minimum area through which it collects light. That applies to both the infrared and the selfie camera. In principle one could divide that area over, eg, multiple horizontally aligned smaller cameras. But with all the other sensors and output devices (illuminators, speaker) also not likely to shrink that significantly, you'd still need a band of items that will have to cover a noticeable area.
Apple of course could simply have a thicker top bezel, but I don't think that is what you had in mind.
Last edited:
Interesting. I do agree that they could just put a black bar there. I’m surprised that they didn’t do that.
But answer me this, when you’re looking at the screen are you just fixated on the notch? Like as I use the phone I don’t notice the notch because it’s alllll the way at the top. There’s so much else going on on the phone.
Can you just not get it out of your vision?
I applaud them for using the latest tech but, they sell iPhones without a USB-C cable. Either go all out, or don't bother. They should have used USB-C and USB 3.0 ports. Otherwise, what's Pro about it?
I have 4 dongles! I am a PRO user! wooo!
Portret it's oke
Full screen landscape it's bothering me..
Also the round corners of the screen reminded me of the old Televisions ..
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but let me ask you this: what exactly was beautiful about those big a$$ bezels or the home button? The selfie camera & speaker - even without FaceID - have to go somewhere! So you can either have a big a$$ bezel or you a notch. There's no way you can have a screen that goes all the way up to the edge of the device unless you're one of those few who don't need a selfie camera or a phone speaker.
Me neither.
I used to like Apple products but software wise they have been progressively worse and with iOS11 my confidence has gone!
I certainly am not going to buy an iPhone X and then defend it's poor bad design (notch)!
It what people do, they own it, they defend and protect it.
It's not offending me at all. I just believe it was a bad design.
How many times has something been released, everyone buys it, protects it and then years later once they get rid of it admit it was a pile of turd!
Someone approved and thought at the time these were awesome! Fast forward and they are now poorly designed.
https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/apple/11-worst-apple-product-failures-3515144/