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I have had the X for about a month now. I love it. Everything works great on it. FaceID works in the dark. The dreaded NOTCH blends into the background and you never notice that it is there. The camera is awesome. It is speedy. The battery last a long time.....typically 10-12 hours...I use it for FB, email, some video watching and taking pictures. I upgraded from a 5s and am loving it!
 
I honestly believe once Touch ID couldn't be done under the screen, they went into plan z mode and released the "iPhone 8" that wasn't going to exist as well as the notch gimmicked X. I bet a story 10 to 15 years from now will come out about this absurdity behind the scenes of them scrambling to put both these models out in time for the release because they weren't the first choice.

Or FaceId was the plan along and the 8 is the new non-flagship phone model.
 
I applaud them for using the latest tech but, they sell iPhones without a USB-C cable. Either go all out, or don't bother. They should have used USB-C and USB 3.0 ports. Otherwise, what's Pro about it?

I have 4 dongles! I am a PRO user! wooo!
You are right about the iphone cables.
But about the other devices you use with your macbook pro.
Usb-c implementation/adoption won’ t take off if apple would offer a way out by adding an old usb 2.0 port.
 
The notch is such a non issue. The phone looks better than the rest of the competition imo.

Those that are still complaining about the notch either don’t own the phone or never even used one.

Yep. Everything Apple does is unquestionably great and all criticism is total BS coz, well, it doesn't really matter and it's such a non-issue! I'm shocked that this comment has the most upvotes. Here, let me upvote this even more. *upvotes comment*
 
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I honestly believe once Touch ID couldn't be done under the screen, they went into plan z mode and released the "iPhone 8" that wasn't going to exist as well as the notch gimmicked X. I bet a story 10 to 15 years from now will come out about this absurdity behind the scenes of them scrambling to put both these models out in time for the release because they weren't the first choice.
Good lord how many times does Apple have to say Face ID wasn’t plan B?!? Just because some people choose to believe what they want doesn’t mean they’re right and Apple is lying. Btw, John Gruber said he heard this from low level engineers. Face ID was always plan A.
 
Exactly, I think the design is perfect, what do these people want, a black bar from left to right on top, think this is much better.
Exactly, people have never seen such a crazy thing on an iPhone, a black bar across the top. What a dumb idea. :rolleyes:
 
Me neither.

I used to like Apple products but software wise they have been progressively worse and with iOS11 my confidence has gone!

I certainly am not going to buy an iPhone X and then defend it's poor bad design (notch)!

It what people do, they own it, they defend and protect it.

It's not offending me at all. I just believe it was a bad design.

How many times has something been released, everyone buys it, protects it and then years later once they get rid of it admit it was a pile of turd!

Someone approved and thought at the time these were awesome! Fast forward and they are now poorly designed.

https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/apple/11-worst-apple-product-failures-3515144/

The X isn't perfect, but it is so far from a pile of turd. The battery is crazy, I have yet to kill my battery in one day and I have tried, it freaky fast, and screen is just amazing.
 
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Which is exactly what someone would say who has an iPhone X (justification for the purchase) :)

No, it's what anyone would say who's been using the iPhone X for a longer period of time.

It really is a purely hypothetical non-issue by people who don't have an iPhone X or haven't been using it for longer than a week.
 
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No, it's what anyone would say who's been using the iPhone X for a longer period of time.

It really is a purely hypothetical non-issue by people who don't have an iPhone X or haven't been using it for longer than a week.
Which is what someone would say if they owned an iPhone X!

ha ha
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The X isn't perfect, but it is so far from a pile of turd. The battery is crazy, I have yet to kill my battery in one day and I have tried, it freaky fast, and screen is just amazing.
Fast now! Wait till the battery degrades!
 
You are right about the iphone cables.
But about the other devices you use with your macbook pro.
Usb-c implementation/adoption won’ t take off if apple would offer a way out by adding an old usb 2.0 port.
It's not the same as before when apple removed Firewall or Floppy drives. They were virtually dead anyway.

USB ports are in everything with virtually everything now having a USB connector. The iPhone is a perfect example. If they were that drive all the iPhones would be USB-C. The Apple Watch would charge via USB-C. They don't, they use normal USB. Apple should have used USB-C and USB on their MacBook Pro's. 2 USB, 1 USB-C. Then slowly reduce the USB ports. 1 USB 2 USB-C then eventually just USB-C. Instead they annoyed the hell out of the Pro users!
 
I don't really mind the notch at all, but I'm all for it getting smaller. I would love some more notification real estate. It's somewhat annoying that I can't see my battery percentage or alarm clock status without pulling down the control center.
 
People complain entirely too damn much. There's nothing at all wrong with the notch.

That's how it is on tech forums, you're going to find those have their displeasure about the notch. But for those who do have the X that I know around me, have not even commented on the design or even mentioned the Notch remotely in a conversation.
 
Yes, it clearly was a design decision. With the limitations provided, they were forced to decide between a full black bar at the top, or the notch. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise. If the technology existed to completely hide the sensors/cameras beneath the screen in order to get a full edge to edge display they would have certainly done it.
It's not a design decision. It's a post-hoc argument to cover for a design failure.

Just. Like. The. Camera. Bump.

The only way I can think that the notch was an intentional design decision, was that Apple wanted to differentiate their phone face from the other phone faces. That means, they sat down in a room and asked the question, "How can we differentiate the X from other phones immediately?"

Good design starts with a problem and then solves it elegantly.

The notch was probably a failure to hide the camera tech from the front of the phone, which led to a post-hoc argument to explain why the notch exists: it's a "feature" of iphone X that distinguishes it from other slabs of glass.

This article, offering a rumor that the notch will shrink, means that Apple didn't want the notch to begin with; because if they had wanted the notch to begin with, then they wouldn't want to shrink it later this year....
 
But as far is you mentioning screen flicker, off angle color shift an image burn in, those are sporadic problems. That doesn't mean those are widespread that everybody is experiencing. There is always going to be some devices that are initially defective and or those who come to a tech form to discuss/complain about it. That applies to any smart phone that has its own issues.
PWM, off angle color shift, and burn-in are not sporadic problems. They are literally issues with OLED technology that can only be mitigated to some extent. Some people do not notice them, while others are extra sensitive to the issues, but all OLED is susceptible.
PWM is used because if they reduce voltage to limit brightness, that reduces color bit depth. So they shorten the length of the light pulses which can be distracting at low brightness.
Color shift is due to that sub-pixel layout, and is something that has bothered me in every OLED I’ve seen including iPhone X, although most people might not think about it.
And burn-in is an inherent problem with the tech as well that can be mitigated with software.
 
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PWM, off angle color shift, and burn-in are not sporadic problems. They are literally issues with OLED technology that can only be mitigated to some extent. Some people do not notice them, while others are extra sensitive to the issues, but all OLED is susceptible.

That doesn't mean they exist on every phone it even for those who do notice it. But the point is, is that you have those either who look for these issues and or do not. Those who do, likely have some knowledge or background on PWM, angle color shift and burn in. It's a matter of understanding these contingencies based on experience partially.

And burn-in is an inherent problem with the tech as well that can be mitigated with software.

Burn in an OLED we know are susceptible depending on the circumstances. However, user settings are also highly applicable to reducing the latency with burn in as well.
 
2019 iPhone lineup:
iPhone Notch Slim - a slimmer notch with combined camera and face scanner
iPhone Notch Plus - a larger notch for the Plus model
iPhone Notch Classic - basically just the same old iPhone X with upgraded specs
:p
 
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FaceID 2 then... which means all the errors, bugs and quirks are being now exposed and will be fixed by next iteration. Thank you beta testers!

My only problem with Face ID is when I am wearing sunglasses. It struggles with that. I usually have to lift up my glasses for a second and then the phone unlocks.
 
I know everyone is different and is entitled to their opinions/feelings, but how does the notch bother you. Even with me typing this message and looking at the top of the screen, I literally pay no mind to the notch.

Is it just not possible for you to ignore it? The notch takes up a VERY small part of the display.

I’m just genuinely curious on why it bothers you so much.
Interesting. I do agree that they could just put a black bar there. I’m surprised that they didn’t do that.

But answer me this, when you’re looking at the screen are you just fixated on the notch? Like as I use the phone I don’t notice the notch because it’s alllll the way at the top. There’s so much else going on on the phone.

Can you just not get it out of your vision?

I thought I reply to you both, as it is essentially the same.

Phone costs £1k - you would expect better.

Some of us have OCD (mines is mild).

Watching videos / games / websites basically anything on landscape is annoying.

If you say Face ID then they should have waited until they could have solved the issue. As I see it, iPhone X is a beta phone, which I find it very disappointing.

Then why is Apple looking into making the notch small?
 
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