So they keep dragging this almost eight year old outdatet design further down the line. Ridiculous.
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2022 iPhone SE Will Have 5G But No Design Changes, Major Update Coming in 2024
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Can you perhaps gift me one of those? Since you're not using them. I haven't been opportuned to use an iPhone.
The iphone 7 design is the perfect design.
- My thumb can reach the four corners of the screen (video Apple themselves explaining this)
- TouchID is function > form. I don't have to face my phone horizontally for it to unlock or approve things
- wearing glasses, mask, helmet under the bedsheets, or being under the bedsheets will not affect its operations.
- I do not have to do finger ballet dance on my screen to get around. Home button fixes this.
- I think people who think bezels are ridiculous are partially insane. 0 issue with bezels. In fact a whole screen phone makes it hard to use because any where you touch on top might invoke an action like clicking a link or opening an app
- Its actually cheaper, so I save money as a bonus.
- I do not have to use 2 hands or crawl up and down with one hand to operate it.
could they do a redesign on how it looks? Sure i will love that, but increases screen size, takeout home button and touch id, ...nope! sorry...
Special Edition I believe
That sounds great, also a fingerprint scanner on the power button or on the back would be great.
Battery size always matters. Also it will be a 5G phone, 5G uses more power.
Strictly speaking, dylandtk never mentions a smaller chassis, just a slightly smaller screen. This along with the TouchID power button would still make it a "similar design" to the XR/11 without actually being physically smaller. That said, I agree that a screen as small as 5.7” like the one Ross Young mentions as the lower end of the possible range doesn't make much sense.
At any rate, if the typical iPhone lifecycle holds, we can assume the iPhone 11 will get pushed out of the lineup this year, and then the iPhone 12 will get pushed out of the lineup in 2023. Given that, in conjunction with the fact that Dylan mentions this iPhone has been "pushed back" (perhaps due to supply chain issues, for example) one can't help but wonder if it might eventually be scrapped entirely. The 2024 release timeframe would theoretically seem to open up the possibility of skipping over the 11/XR form factor and going straight to the iPhone 12/13 form factor instead.
The iPhone SE with the same design as the iPhone 6 (2014) that Apple intends to sell for 10 years (until 2024 - Ok with new microprocessors), for $ 400, the price of the Samsung A52S 5G. Great work Tim! Congratulations!
100% agree with your points. I'm in the same boat. I'm fully into the Apple ecosystem, but I'm very happy with the "old" form factor and love that the price is so far less than the other models. (The iPhone SE is still expensive now that we don't get carrier subsidies applied....guess I'm getting cheap in my old age though). My whole family has old-school home button iPhones, and I don't expect that to change anytime soon, as long as Apple keeps manufacturing them.
The iPad design is basically the same design as the first generation 9.7 inch iPad Air released years ago, and Apple sell more of the base model than any other tablet.
I think some people on this forum are somewhat disconnected from consumers that just don't fixate on the latest tech design. There has been a huge market for the SE, and it is the second best selling iPhone. This will likely continue because there is a market for an affordable, reliable, and pocketable iPhone that gives access to the Apple ecosystem. Also, some people just prefer having a physical home button.
IMO, a 5.5" 1080p 3x points-to-Res LCD display in a reduced-size 7+/8+ chassis would be extremely popular !
And, if Apple were to put the same 1.9 um pixel image sensor in it (for its Back Wide), & 4 GB of DRAM, it would be, IMO, Apple's most-popular iPhone of ALL time (to-date) !
The 7+ was Apple's first-ever High-Perf iPhone !
TouchID is the single most popular Feature Apple ever removed from their iPhones !
Apple could offer what I'm describing for $549 USD (w/ 128 GB of NAND Flash Storage) !
And BTW, for those who don't know, Apple's Telephoto Camera (technology) hasn't really changed since the 7+ !
Same 1um pixel image sensor now as back then
And, if Apple were to put the same 1.9 um pixel image sensor in it (for its Back Wide), & 4 GB of DRAM, it would be, IMO, Apple's most-popular iPhone of ALL time (to-date) !
The 7+ was Apple's first-ever High-Perf iPhone !
TouchID is the single most popular Feature Apple ever removed from their iPhones !
Apple could offer what I'm describing for $549 USD (w/ 128 GB of NAND Flash Storage) !
And BTW, for those who don't know, Apple's Telephoto Camera (technology) hasn't really changed since the 7+ !
Same 1um pixel image sensor now as back then
Better off buying the 13 mini in a few months.IMO, a 5.5" 1080p 3x points-to-Res LCD display in a reduced-size 7+/8+ chassis would be extremely popular !
And, if Apple were to put the same 1.9 um pixel image sensor in it (for its Back Wide), & 4 GB of DRAM, it would be, IMO, Apple's most-popular iPhone of ALL time (to-date) !
The 7+ was Apple's first-ever High-Perf iPhone !
TouchID is the single most popular Feature Apple ever removed from their iPhones !
Apple could offer what I'm describing for $549 USD (w/ 128 GB of NAND Flash Storage) !
And BTW, for those who don't know, Apple's Telephoto Camera (technology) hasn't really changed since the 7+ !
Same 1um pixel image sensor now as back then
I still long for a device the size of the 5S/SE (2016). I don’t care if Apple releases a budget phone blah blah in that size, I’ll buy it. The size of the phone for me matters the most. Then the camera.
The 12 mini I have is great and I absolutely love the camera but I still wish it were a bit smaller like the first SE. If they can integrate the edge-to-edge screen with FaceID into that size phone I’d be set. ?
The 12 mini I have is great and I absolutely love the camera but I still wish it were a bit smaller like the first SE. If they can integrate the edge-to-edge screen with FaceID into that size phone I’d be set. ?
If they throw in 5G (and likely last years modem to save money) I’d expect it to be much worse while on 5G.
I understand your frustration with the older design, but its based off the most refined version of the iphone 6 chassis i.e the Iphone 8 (From 2017). Also yes its the same price as the A52S 5G, but the Iphone SE 2022 will have at least twice the performance (maybe even 3X), provide more security, better build quality with glass/metal, faster WIFI speeds and take much better pictures with just its single lens system, as well as many other things. Im not knocking the cheaper Android phones though, they do give you a lot for your money, and keep getting better each year.
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I can relate to everything you just said.
I’ve had my iPhone 13 Pro for several months now. It’s a great phone and I love it for the display smoothness and battery.
However, my parents are both on the 2nd Gen iPhone SE. Every time I play with their SE, I can’t believe how much I still like it!
It’s very snappy and so pure! I actually find it much easier to use. It fits my hand perfectly and it’s much easier to both unlock and type with one hand.
I also find that having big bezels is advantageous in so many ways. I never realized this until now. It’s just easier to reach things by the edges of the screen and I have far less accidental touches while using the SE.
I can only hold my 13 Pro one way. Otherwise, parts of my hand will inadvertently touch the screen. With the SE, I can hold it any way I want. The large bezels are actually more practical in my experience.
You know, when the new SE comes out, I will seriously consider ditching my 13 Pro for it.
The current SE body is just so freaking lightweight and good looking. It does 99% of the same stuff I do on my 13 Pro. The SE also feels significantly lighter and thinner than my prior 12 mini did.
Lastly, I can’t stand the fact that all new iPhones only use Face ID. This is literally the worst time in history to use Face ID. Everywhere I go, it annoys the living crap out of me while wearing a mask. I hate having to enter my password every time.
That alone is another huge reason why I’d ditch the 13 Pro for a new SE.
For the last two years, Touch ID trumps Face ID. Nobody can argue this. And if they do, they are either in serious denial or Florida.
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Yeah, but for many people that’s not always an option.
Yanking your mask like this in some public places will get you in trouble. Maybe even arrested, depending on the part of the country (or world) you’re in.
Fact of the matter is Face ID requires most people with new iPhones to enter their password several times a day nowadays.
It’s extremely annoying.
Touch ID is not only quicker, but far more practical. Mask or no mask, it works every time and it works flawlessly in my experience.
Some of us truly don’t care about battery life. We don’t value it as much as you may.
Some people aren’t addicted to their phones. We don’t spend our entire day playing games or going on social media.
We fire a few text messages, make a phone call, open a few emails, and use Apple Pay. If you do that on the SE, the battery will easily last an entire day.
If that's the thing that most matters to you, you should get one of them.
I was just thinking about something related to battery life on the iphone 6/7/8 form-factor. I just looked up the teardown on ifixit and wondered why apple didn't consider other tradeoffs in the device to improve battery life. Since this is supposedly now a budget phone and not just a small phone, does it really need a taptic engine or the wireless charging? Would that even be enough to make a difference in size for the battery? If so I would trade those two things in a heartbeat for a decent increase in the battery size.
Battery life is a bit subjective though. The SE 2020 only has a 1800 Mh battery, but i get about 36 hours in between charges based on my usage. The budget android phones at the same price will definitely have a larger capacity battery thats for sure, but these phones are poorly optimised between hardware/software, so will get better battery life but not by much. The android phone will obviously be the better option for heavy multi media usage though.