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Max is not even top 200 of all time drivers, Lewis maybe 201st, Max well south if 220.. I rate Martin Brundle a better driver.. Max/Lewis all drive server racks on Pirelli rubber caster wheels..

If or when F175 decides to actually race race cars and not servers, then that maybe would a GOAT, Max has a boat, that is all he is a boat owner..
Martin Brundle has not even had a single win in F1 ;) I think such comments say a lot about you.
 
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Yes, I understand the reasons for having 2 races, and on paper, in the sim it works, but in the cold light of day, it simply robs the Sunday to pay the Saturday, I have explained this before, it is like cricket, we had unlimited days, then 5 days, then 60 overs, then 50 overs, then 20 overs, 10 overs, 100 balls, it all destroy's what that sport is...

When you have a system like Sprints and Full Race in 2 days, the same cars and drivers, you risk reducing the event on Sunday, with a crash or worse on Saturday.. As explained, you need 3 cars per team, a sprint car, and 20 non competing drivers, each team has at least 1 driver not competing, but is at the track, Bottas for example, 3 teams he sits waiting for nothing..

The Sunday event is like set in stone, you don't mess with this...

As much as I hate sprints, I agree there needs something, just not using the same cars, same drivers, as shown in the Sprint Saturday, we could have had a Sunday with 18 cars on the grid, and for what?? Pointless.. Drivers pick up penalties for events not in the scope of the Sunday race, it affects the Sunday race.. I just find that illogical..
To me the risks are all part of it. Just got to look at the whole picture. And as a spectator I appreciate there is more than just the Sunday. It makes for a great spectators weekend.
 
Wins are not important now in 2025, so Mclaren has a better server than say Red Bull, the poor Williams are using Walmart used 32bit servers...

Martin raced in an era where it was driver only, not a lot of servers.. Today it is 99% PHD's in Brackley and 1% the driver...

Although Max, Lewis have a lot of wins, look at who against.. This year PastryPies v Lando.. Max is about as relevant as a 1980 guide to London trains.. Lewis this race proved just what his position is.. "We will get back to you.." Man that has to burn.. In fact what a burn, Lewis has zero respect in the team.. Ouch.. Bad case of f you Lewis...

I can fully understand the reason his man friday is still at Merc.. That has to say a lot.. This race maybe is a watershed.. But wow..
 
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The USA has hosted, as a country, 76 Grand Prix, the UK has hosted, as a country, 79 Grand

Whilst I understand your passion, could you have decency to extrapolate your opinion, so that the reasons could be understood. Simply saying useless, or not viable, are not answers, or reasons, merely statements.
Motor racing itself, should be full of variety, as that challenges the driver, not the car. Changing the distance to half, would eliminate the need to change tires (although the ability to do so, and the strategic use of, is still there). Car's would have a lighter fuel load, the desire to overtake, will be hastened by less time to do so. Teams would have the chance to tweak their cars, and learn from the 1st race, and penalties imposed, would have an immediate effect. There would also be increased viewership, in person and through TV and media coverage.
I feel like @JustinePaula was pretty clear ...
 
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To me the risks are all part of it. Just got to look at the whole picture. And as a spectator I appreciate there is more than just the Sunday. It makes for a great spectators weekend.
Yes, I don't have an issue with sprints, but I have issues with sprints as they are in 2025.. Stupid and pointless and a risk in a risk adverse industry is perplexing.. Maybe a 3rd car.. Best of 3 sprints? But Sprints and Race..Nope stupid idea by idiots..
 
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McLaren were in a league of their own, Norris unlucky on lap one with Max as I thought he was the driver of the two that would have won this race. Oscar hit the job done though, so credit to him.

Ferrari are a shambles and both drivers annoyed with how slow and indecisive they seem to be under pressure. Must be a shock for Lewis as Mercedes were a lot more slick in this regard. The worrying thing is Ferrari feels they performed well!

Miami is an awful circuit, a marketing venue and a clearly disliked by fans. My opinion on sprint races remains unchanged too.
 
Mercedes were one of the worst teams when it came to being decisive, one of the reasons I think Lewis left.. We will never know, but that comment "we will get back to you.." is brutal and stunning...

As much as I hate having so many US events, actually this track has a lot of creative overtaking, and a healthy dose of if you make a mistake, you pay, as you should at F175 as the logo pronounces..

Nearly 300 000+ humans at the track, maybe more if you count all the Miami Studs In Blue standing on the various bridges not doing their jobs catching crims..

I hated the track at first, but now.. Glad they are keeping it.. Better Miami than that stinker useless waste of time Monaco..
 
McLaren were in a league of their own, Norris unlucky on lap one with Max as I thought he was the driver of the two that would have won this race. Oscar hit the job done though, so credit to him.

Ferrari are a shambles and both drivers annoyed with how slow and indecisive they seem to be under pressure. Must be a shock for Lewis as Mercedes were a lot more slick in this regard. The worrying thing is Ferrari feels they performed well!

Miami is an awful circuit, a marketing venue and a clearly disliked by fans. My opinion on sprint races remains unchanged too.
Oscar is the man to beat this season.

Ferrari is a shambles.

Miami is horrible and stupid.
 
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Good amount of overtakes. Lando was unlucky at the start, but he had to go for it. Oscar just made the most of it.

Russel benefited from the VSC. Max made the best of what he could with his pace.

The Ferrari debrief would probably be an entertaining watch.

Just needed the rain to come midway through to spice it up.

Thoughts on the Lego drivers parade? They all seemed to enjoy it!
 
Mercedes were one of the worst teams when it came to being decisive, one of the reasons I think Lewis left.. We will never know, but that comment "we will get back to you.." is brutal and stunning...

As much as I hate having so many US events, actually this track has a lot of creative overtaking, and a healthy dose of if you make a mistake, you pay, as you should at F175 as the logo pronounces..

Nearly 300 000+ humans at the track, maybe more if you count all the Miami Studs In Blue standing on the various bridges not doing their jobs catching crims..

I hated the track at first, but now.. Glad they are keeping it.. Better Miami than that stinker useless waste of time Monaco..
Awww...
 
Mercedes were one of the worst teams when it came to being decisive, one of the reasons I think Lewis left.. We will never know, but that comment "we will get back to you.." is brutal and stunning...

As much as I hate having so many US events, actually this track has a lot of creative overtaking, and a healthy dose of if you make a mistake, you pay, as you should at F175 as the logo pronounces..

Nearly 300 000+ humans at the track, maybe more if you count all the Miami Studs In Blue standing on the various bridges not doing their jobs catching crims..

I hated the track at first, but now.. Glad they are keeping it.. Better Miami than that stinker useless waste of time Monaco..
Well true. I don't like Miami for all the stuff around it, didn't like the circuit either, but the tweaks made to the DRS zoning, has actually made it for quite a spectactular race. And yes Monaco has the class and tradition, but they really need to tweak the circuit so it becomes a race and not a procession.

I did note the police (or whatever force) with their lights on and just watching the race as well. They should sort that for the next one. But we will have Miami longer on the calendar than some in this thread might be alive, now there is a thought. So commercially it really works despite the silly pool, fake mermaids, fake yachts, etc. The promotors knows what works locally and I respect them for that. Not my kind of scene though.
 
The cops blocking off the flyways have always stood watching the race. And why not, it's a heck of a vantage point.

I don't begrudge my country three races (I mean in terms of land area and ease of travel, the EU is effectively the same and they have a shedload more), but I do agree Miami is kind of our version of Monaco - except you can actually pass - and with Las Vegas now on the calendar, I'd prefer another "traditional" track to compliment COTA. But then, F1 has finally become popular in The States thanks to the "glamour" so you kind of need a "glamorous" city like Miami...

I like the Sprints because I like watching a race more than a free practice session. My biggest beef was when parc fermé went into effect at the end of FP because then the teams had no ability to adjust for changing conditions the rest of the weekend. Now that parc fermé goes into effect after the Sprint, the teams probably have better data to setup for GP qualifying and the GP then they do with two more FP sessions.

Agreed the McLarens looked dominant. The question now is are they so dominant because of aero advantages that will be nullified come Barcelona or have they just nailed the overall package, period?

The cooler temperatures helped Max and the two Mercedes hold off the Williams.

Ferrari was their usual shambles. Park Lewis behind LeClerc for four laps so his Mediums were ruined then let him past and wonder why he cannot close on Antonelli.
 
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So after declaring Jack Doohan "safe" until the Summer Break a few weeks ago per comments they had received from Alpine, The Race now believe he will be gone for Imola, replaced by Colapinto.

 
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McLaren were in a league of their own, Norris unlucky on lap one with Max as I thought he was the driver of the two that would have won this race. Oscar hit the job done though, so credit to him.

Ferrari are a shambles and both drivers annoyed with how slow and indecisive they seem to be under pressure. Must be a shock for Lewis as Mercedes were a lot more slick in this regard. The worrying thing is Ferrari feels they performed well!

Miami is an awful circuit, a marketing venue and a clearly disliked by fans. My opinion on sprint races remains unchanged too.

Now we have Lewis being quoted as telling Fred "to calm down and not be so sensitive." At least we have something consistent now, as we know what will dominate the news cycle for the next 2 weeks. ;)
 
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Now we have Lewis being quoted as telling Fred "to calm down and not be so sensitive." At least we have something consistent now, as we know what will dominate the news cycle for the next 2 weeks. ;)
It’s been largely positive towards Lewis from what I’ve seen so far as Charles was just as frustrated by the situation. Obviously you get the keyboard warriors who don’t care about the details, making comments but I’m surprised by the reaction so far. Lewis is right, there are other drivers who properly scream in situations like this and Lewis was pretty calm and sarcastic, despite Ferrari fumbling the strategy. I’d imagine Fred is a bit miffed with both drivers but he needs to tighten the ship up, not go on TV and make out Ferrari did well when the world saw how poor they were. The debrief must have been entertaining.

I wouldn’t blame Lewis for retiring after this season, seems like a massive rebuild I don’t think he needs.
 
It’s been largely positive towards Lewis from what I’ve seen so far as Charles was just as frustrated by the situation. Obviously you get the keyboard warriors who don’t care about the details, making comments but I’m surprised by the reaction so far. Lewis is right, there are other drivers who properly scream in situations like this and Lewis was pretty calm and sarcastic, despite Ferrari fumbling the strategy. I’d imagine Fred is a bit miffed with both drivers but he needs to tighten the ship up, not go on TV and make out Ferrari did well when the world saw how poor they were. The debrief must have been entertaining.

I wouldn’t blame Lewis for retiring after this season, seems like a massive rebuild I don’t think he needs.
I thought Lewis was very passive aggressive. Deservedly so. But to me it came across as more mean than just saying it straight up. Then again I’m Dutch and straight talking, 26 years in the UK hasn’t changed me luckily to use such underhand nasty remarks.
 
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Piastri strikes me as someone with a similar racing mentality to Verstappen which is why I think Oscar has been more effective racing Max then Lando has. Oscar does not take the risks Max does, yet he seems to understand the risks Max is willing to take and does not get caught out when Max makes those moves. Lando...not so much.
 
It’s been largely positive towards Lewis from what I’ve seen so far as Charles was just as frustrated by the situation. Obviously you get the keyboard warriors who don’t care about the details, making comments but I’m surprised by the reaction so far. Lewis is right, there are other drivers who properly scream in situations like this and Lewis was pretty calm and sarcastic, despite Ferrari fumbling the strategy. I’d imagine Fred is a bit miffed with both drivers but he needs to tighten the ship up, not go on TV and make out Ferrari did well when the world saw how poor they were. The debrief must have been entertaining.

I wouldn’t blame Lewis for retiring after this season, seems like a massive rebuild I don’t think he needs.

Even though Charles is on contract through 2029, I presume he has "jump ship clauses" in place and I wonder if some of Fred's strategy indecision is not wanting to upset Charles too much so that he is tempted to exercise one of those options should they become available.

Lewis is only under contract until 2026 and personally I do not see that being extended unless he somehow wins his 8th WDC with them. Though with how miserable Ollie Bearman has been, maybe they go begging to Carlos next year...
 
Even though Charles is on contract through 2029, I presume he has "jump ship clauses" in place and I wonder if some of Fred's strategy indecision is not wanting to upset Charles too much so that he is tempted to exercise one of those options should they become available.

Lewis is only under contract until 2026 and personally I do not see that being extended unless he somehow wins his 8th WDC with them. Though with how miserable Ollie Bearman has been, maybe they go begging to Carlos next year...
By next year Williams might be a better prospect than Ferrari. I think the deciding factor will be Max. If he jumps ship (or quits altogether) then that will see a series of moves.
Max to Mercedes. George to????
Will be interesting. I’m sure the only drivers not looking for other options are Lando and Oscar.
 
It’s been largely positive towards Lewis from what I’ve seen so far as Charles was just as frustrated by the situation. Obviously you get the keyboard warriors who don’t care about the details, making comments but I’m surprised by the reaction so far. Lewis is right, there are other drivers who properly scream in situations like this and Lewis was pretty calm and sarcastic, despite Ferrari fumbling the strategy. I’d imagine Fred is a bit miffed with both drivers but he needs to tighten the ship up, not go on TV and make out Ferrari did well when the world saw how poor they were. The debrief must have been entertaining.

I wouldn’t blame Lewis for retiring after this season, seems like a massive rebuild I don’t think he needs.

Agree completely. I wasn’t trying to be negative towards Lewis. He was clearly correct, and it’s nice to see him still be aggressive considering the pile he has landed in……… The Tifosi will keep this going.
 
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All I'm going to say is this:

The best moment of the race was when Lewis said, "Want me to let him by as well...?" when he was told that Sainz was gaining on him...


He he he ... he he he he... ahhh... brilliant.
 
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Agree completely. I wasn’t trying to be negative towards Lewis. He was clearly correct, and it’s nice to see him still be aggressive considering the pile he has landed in……… The Tifosi will keep this going.
Yeah he was frustrated and like many of us, say it how it is with a hefty dose of sarcasm. Maybe the tifosi will turn on him for it, but that might be a good thing as Lewis always used to perform even better when fans were against him. Maybe he’ll decide to come back to the UK and seek a better option sooner than we thought? A swap with Sainz would be my preference, although it’ll never happen sadly.
 
Even though Charles is on contract through 2029, I presume he has "jump ship clauses" in place and I wonder if some of Fred's strategy indecision is not wanting to upset Charles too much so that he is tempted to exercise one of those options should they become available.

Lewis is only under contract until 2026 and personally I do not see that being extended unless he somehow wins his 8th WDC with them. Though with how miserable Ollie Bearman has been, maybe they go begging to Carlos next year...
I think the driver choice is the least of Ferrar's worries at the moment. They already have 2 very capable drivers, and just need to give them a faster car and a team that can operate under pressure. The brand prestige of the Scuderia only goes so far and right now, they are sitting on a serious drought, not winning any form of world Championship for 17 years (2008). I think Lewis will most likely see his contract through, but if 2026 starts with Ferrari behind. 'trying to find pace', I think Lewis will either call time on his F1 career or seek one last option. Drivers don't build teams unfortunately, as much as people (fans) used to suggest Schumacher did, realistically it takes a lot more than that.
 
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