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24, Day 6
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right there.
Is it beating or biting a dead horse? I guess we're back to the neck-biting-Jack / vampire-Kiefer thing again.
How about where was anything or everything in this season. It sucked more than my life does.
Karen and Bill were written out, Chloe and Morris were written out with the baby. The Vice soon to be President will return and Tom and Nadia and thats about it.They are gonna resign like they said.
Was anybody watching? The circuit board was destroyed in the air strike. If it wasn't burned in the fire, then as one of the Joint Chiefs said, it'll be irreparably damaged by salt water. Bill and Karen are going to retire. Jack may or may not commit suicide (which loops nicely back to his contention at the beginning of the day that he "can't do this anymore").
This was probably one of the better endings, because it gave us more insight than we usually see into how Jack feels about the conflict between doing his job and having people to care about. Jack came across as a human being instead of just a ruthless patriot. Nothing wrong with that.
And what's this about the cast being "written off"? They left enough open to bring the characters back next season, so you can find out if Wayne Palmer ever recovers or whether Nadia is replaced as head of CTU.
Geez there's a lot of whining in here.
This was probably one of the better endings, because it gave us more insight than we usually see into how Jack feels about the conflict between doing his job and having people to care about. Jack came across as a human being instead of just a ruthless patriot. Nothing wrong with that.
And what's this about the cast being "written off"? They left enough open to bring the characters back next season, so you can find out if Wayne Palmer ever recovers or whether Nadia is replaced as head of CTU.
Geez there's a lot of whining in here.
I watched and I saw exactly what you pointed out. The problem is, they started character development way too late in the series. For the first 5 Seasons we have this amazing show. Season 6 introduces character development and the writers forget how to write. That's just me.
I liked the ending. It was definitely different and leaves tons of possibilities open for next season. I also don't get why you're saying that all the characters we're written off. Yes, Chloe is having a baby, but that doesn't mean she's not going to be in the next season of the show.
I read an article earlier where they interviewed Eric Balfour about him leaving the show, and he said that next season there's going to be a "change of scenery."
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I read an article earlier where they interviewed Eric Balfour about him leaving the show, and he said that next season there's going to be a "change of scenery."
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High five! Yes, there are some plot holes but come on, some of you people are just plain-out whiners.
Anyone think that there was a chance Phillip escaped on the motorboat he had right near him? That would certainly make things a little more interesting if it happened.
I do think that the chip is not destroyed since Jack never ask Philip for it when he had the chance. If Jack was smart he would want to have proof the chip was ruined.
I think the character development of the VP was good and you saw that he has a heart tonight when he admitted that he was wrong about Wayne. I think he will become a strong character next season.
They left the China plot wide open with Chang not being killed.
We never learned what happened to Logan, or the love affair between Jack and Marilyn and what was the "price for Jack's return".
I think the character development of the VP was good and you saw that he has a heart tonight when he admitted that he was wrong about Wayne. I think he will become a strong character next season.
They left the China plot wide open with Chang not being killed.
We never learned what happened to Logan, or the love affair between Jack and Marilyn and what was the "price for Jack's return".
Jack didn't know that Philip had the chip, and unless Philip managed to get enough energy to get into that boat, get it started, and get clear of the platform in the 30 seconds between when Jack left him and when the platform was hit by the missiles, then the chip was destroyed.
This isn't a bad thing. It leaves room for more speculation about what will happen in the future. They don't have to completely seal up every plot and character to finish off a season.
The only problem is that they have been using the China plot since season 4 and never really took it anywhere, It has been weaved in and out but there was never a full detail given about it.
The biggest plot hole since the end of season 4 is who gave up Jack to the Chinese.
The biggest plot hole since the end of season 4 is who gave up Jack to the Chinese.
Is Kiefer Sutherland definitely returning next season? I remember reading something about him falling out with the producers and not doing any more..? Maybe I just made that up.. There was a silent clock, which is usually used for when someone dies - is it indicating Jack's suicide or non return next season?
Have to say I was a little disappointed with the ending. Lot of open plot holes, but that's the norm, I suppose. Can't wrap up everything that happens in a day so cleanly. But what the hell was that ending? Jack looking over a cliff?
Just odd. Ah, well, I'm sure I'll at least start to watch next season as well, just to see what this "reinvention" is all about.
Just odd. Ah, well, I'm sure I'll at least start to watch next season as well, just to see what this "reinvention" is all about.
I thought he had signed on for another three seasons or something (meaning two more seasons left after this one).
Anyways- here's my idea. I think most people are getting a little bored with the same old stuff over and over again (I mean how many times can someone infiltrate/attack/destroy CTU?! sidenote: ctu is probably one of the least safest places to be in the 24 world). I think next season they need to move to Beijing or some other Chinese local and have Jack not work counter-terrorism but some sort of BlackOps thing. (if you don't agree that's fine- I'm just throwing ideas out there).
I had heard the same -- three season extension. Although watching Doyle in this season made me think he would be a suitable replacement for Jack...until he got his face blown up. I really hope he plays some role in the next season, though.
I also agree completely. The LA/CTU scene is getting PLAYED OUT. They need to go to a new locale. I envision Jack being a rogue agent. At the end of this season he sounds like he has unfinished business, but what is it? His dad and brother were archenemies for the first 5 seasons. Now that they're gone, he must either be going after China (would be cool, but far-fetched -- then again when did that stop them?) or else he's going after the "bureaucrats" he was railing against in Secretary Heller's house.
The ending was strange last night, but I was really happy that they took a mediocre season and at least made an awesome finale. I was on the fence about watching next season again, but after last night I will definitely be anticipating next January...can't believe its gonna be that long!
That was so unfair!! They always rip on Chevy Chase .. remember Peter's novelization of "Caddyshack"? Blasphemes!
The show got a little too political, but the line about Dick Cheney shooting a bullet through Carl Rove and into Tucker Carlson...priceless.
That situation with the circuit board demonstrates the height of the poor writing on this season's show. They didn't even know for sure that the board was on that platform. They could have dropped it in a FedEx envelope destined for China already. Nobody knows for sure until they have the board in their hands and can analyze it. So the VP's decision to bomb the platform to oblivion makes no sense. And even if the VP and cabinet are idiots, Jack knows better than to leave the board behind. And even if Jack didn't have time, Subarov has no reason to believe that anything the VP says is true.
And if Philip Bauer is such an evil genius, why does he flee to the most obvious location?
The worst part of the show is when President Subarov asked his men what to do after they saw the oil platform blown up. The generals didn't say anything -- just shrugged their shoulders and made that "meh" sound. Pretty much every facet of the story involving Subarov was ridiculous. What president would authorize a foreign invasion into their embassy to kill their own countrymen? Not a single one, it doesn't matter the circumstances.
Most of the characters really are gone, though, unless they come back to do something outside of CTU -- like Tony Almeida in Season 4. I could see Bill or Chloe doing something like that. Chloe will have just had her child (I predict its a girl), and will be coming off maternity leave...if she's kept her job at CTU.
Outsourcing your work potential? I believe tony lasted 15 minutes into the day that way.
I completely agree. The circuit board thing has so many plot holes it's ridiculous, as I ranted about in a post above. The Russians have no way of deactivating it? Or changing their codes? They really leave their entire national security dependent on a little piece of circuitry never being stolen?
At one point the Chinese baddie gives the component back to Philip Bauer. Why? Didn't he just trade the boy to Philip for exactly that?
I can actually go along with what happened in this episode, although the lack of closure on Wayne Palmer and the lame Chloe pregnancy were a bit disappointing. My biggest issue with the finale? Suddenly Ricky Schroeder stopped acting and went limp. Didn't every one of his lines seem wooden and amateurish, much more so than in any episode before that? Am I the only one who noticed that?
If they want to go completely different for next season, they could have Jack no longer be an agent at all, just trapped in some personal crisis. A plane hijacking or something. If they really wanted to freak people out then, after the "will Jack jump off the cliff?" shot, their "tune in next January" clip had deliberately not included Kiefer. That would have gotten people talking.
There was a hint of this in a recent article. Kiefer was quoted as saying that he much prefers shooting out in the field and he hates being on the dingy CTU set.
Jack is going to snap one of these days, he is a better character when he is on the run from CTU then working for them. I can see Jack going crazy next season and everyone out to stop him. Isn't Jack still under arrest for taking the circuit board? I can see that commando plot lasting for a while. I just wish the ending reveled something last night.
That wasn't the trade. After Chang couldn't get Josh, Philip had to do it himself. Then he was going to give the circuit board to the Chinese so he could move there with Josh. Chang gives the circuit board back to Philip because Philip and Josh were supposed to be heading to meet the Chinese sub while Chang was going to try to fight off Jack and Bill.
But still, after going through all the trouble to get the component, why would he trust Philip enough to give it back to him? Even if they were both getting on the sub and planning to go together, I don't see why he'd trust Philip with it.