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24, Day 6
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Josh is definitely younger than Kim, so Jack would have been with his wife when Josh was conceived. I know at season one they hinted at some infidelity on Jack's part but I was under the impression that it was a single affair with Nina, not a series of affairs, and most likely none with a woman who married his brother.
Phillip Bauer wants an heir, with Graem dead, and him being so tied up in the happenings of this season the only possible heirs are Jack (who is already lost to "public service") or Josh. Phillip is going to China to avoid any repercussions for his involvement in this season's events.
Josh is the price Phillip demanded for fixing the chip on the FC-sub circuit board to give China access to Russian defense codes. Josh has nothing to do with the high price the US government paid to get Jack back.
The next question that comes to mind is, why did "Papa Bauer" want Josh? I think he's beyond taking his grandson out for icecream after threatening to kill him.
Remember that Graem and Philip both believed that they only want the best for their country, so why would he help the Chinese start a domino effect. My guess is for something big.
Philip most likely wants Josh to blackmail Jack again, but what for?...
Remember that Graem and Philip both believed that they only want the best for their country, so why would he help the Chinese start a domino effect. My guess is for something big.
Philip most likely wants Josh to blackmail Jack again, but what for?...
And this is going to be yet another rushed season ending.. 1 hour this Monday and 2 hours the following.
I've heard rumors that they will change the format (don't know specifics) next season, I think a little breath of fresh air will do the series good. I would be willing to bet that this seasons ratings aren't too pleasing, and I can't say that I don't blame people for avoiding it as it hasn't been all that great.
How many more seasons did Fox sign up for?
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The "non-stop" season was a slightly new format as of one or two years ago. Before that they had breaks just like most other shows. I wonder if they'll do more two-hour blocks, perhaps with some spacing between them. I can't see them straying from the 24 hour duration, though, for obvious reasons. Unless the movie (is that still in the rumormill?) gives solid precedence to a drastically different format under the 24 moniker.
As for the number of additional seasons, I believe it was only Keifer who was signed for two more years, including this one. I didn't hear about Fox committing to the show, per se, but I don't pay that much attention.
I thought the deal was for another four seasons? I distinctly remember thinking it took us all the way up to season 10.
Edit: This story says three more years which would mean 2009, or two more seasons ('07-'08 and '08-'09).
Edit 2: It's such a shame that a year ago articles like this were reporting on 24 "achieving some of the best ratings and press it's ever experienced," and now things have turned to sh*t with the show. Season 6 has been really average, and that's being nice.
I think the president of the united states decided it was time to seperate him from. Then again we're obviously supposed to assume that.
I've been watching Heroes instead of 24 the last few weeks.
When you die on 24 you end up on Japanese tv... Tony!!!!
When you die on 24 you end up on Japanese tv... Tony!!!!
Doyle was apparently under orders to take Josh to CTU and not tell Jack since, of course, Jack wouldn't agree to giving Josh to Grampy for the circuit board. So if Jack gets what he wants, US + Russia = war. If not, I wouldn't want to be in the same room as him.
I dunno, I'm kinda drawing blanks as to what'll happen in the finale. The Russians aren't gonna back off until they have proof that the circuit board is obtained/destroyed, Phillip's not giving up the circuit board unless he has Josh, and Jack sure as hell ain't gonna let Josh go off to China with Pops. I guess we'll have to wait and see next week.
I think we can safely assume that Phillip will not go to China now... I don't think Chang is too happy with him at the moment.....
I can't get over this mind-boggling plot hole: why would the entire Russian military be dependent on one circuit board with codes on it? One set of codes gives access to everything? And the Russians have no way of changing them in case it was stolen? Give me a break.
I'll be watching the season finale and the start of next season, but it better improve.
I'll be watching the season finale and the start of next season, but it better improve.
Chang will appear in the finale, we can not assume that Gramps will try and play both sides against the middle ... get josh and then lead chang to the chip at the same time and take his passage to China.
Gramps is Gramps Bauer, he has a master plan, and it does not solely involve what was on screen, I think we can guarantee that.
I can't get over this mind-boggling plot hole: why would the entire Russian military be dependent on one circuit board with codes on it? One set of codes gives access to everything? And the Russians have no way of changing them in case it was stolen? Give me a break.
I'll be watching the season finale and the start of next season, but it better improve.
In some ways I see where you are coming from. But at the same time, its a lot like a car clicker. Car clickers don't have one set code like garage doors used to ... instead they have a random set thats generated after the devices are synced. so its not like 1010102024 always opens your car, instead its a formulated number that jumps, but the key fob knows how to jump and where to jump.
The chip may have the technology that generates the codes, so it would not be easily altered. I do agree that its far fetched to believe that one chip could take down an entire system ... but at the same time, the chinese would definitely be researching as much of the system as they could and they would definitely have data on that front, the chip might contain the final piece of that puzzle for them.
If you're talking about the guys pushing Logan around last year, Graem was their leader...
From a technical standpoint, and from the motivation of the Chinese, yes. But the idea that any country -- especially Russia, which since the end of WWII has been obsessed with external threats -- would leave the defense of their country vulnerable to the theft of a small piece of circuitry is preposterous. It's standard spy thriller stuff, of course, but it really suffers compared to previous plotlines like rogue nukes and terrorist attacks, which are far more plausible.
24 has always had some implausible feats and some unlikely logic to keep the story moving, but this season has just been the worst. I could even overlook last season's hijacking of the president's helicopter because the story and characters were interesting enough. I genuinely wanted to know what would happen with the president and first lady then. Going into Monday's finale, I find myself looking forward more to the setup for next season than the ending of this one.
But you just know that next we are going to see Jack pound the living u-know-what out of Cheng. It's what we all want to see.
And didn't the actor playing Cheng once play a dentist on Seinfeld?By the way Macnut, where do you get all those pictures of Maria Sharapova?
Google.By the way Macnut, where do you get all those pictures of Maria Sharapova?
I sort of see where you're coming from, but if they thought all the suitcase nukes in question had been destroyed years ago (and let's say they were destroyed because the circuitry within poses a threat), wouldn't they have had no need to worry about it for a while?
The fact that one of the circuit boards has since cropped up and the Americans lost it to the Chinese, subsequently making the Russians vulnerable, is what the issue is.
But you just know that next we are going to see Jack pound the living u-know-what out of Cheng. It's what we all want to see.
Absolutely. If I were Jack I would have at least shot him in the leg without hesitating.
Of course if you were handing the bombs over to a foreign company to handle their dismantling/destruction, wouldn't you first remove the circuit boards/components that would allow access to your defense systems?
My details on the beginning of this season are hazy, was the US government aware that Fayed/Asaad had the suitcase nukes when they got Jack back from the Chinese? If so, could part of the reason he was released by the Chinese be a grand plot to use Audry to blackmail whomever they could (Heller perhaps) to get ahold of one of the circuit boards in question? They couldn't have known Jack would be around but Heller certainly has high contacts and might be able to get it as well. The fact that they could use Jack was a bonus, since they figured he'd be an easier target.