I did NOT say that. I said the exact opposite. Read again, mate. Also updated so that it can't be misunderstood.
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I did NOT say that. I said the exact opposite. Read again, mate. Also updated so that it can't be misunderstood.
I personally like the remote... I tried the Roku first (whatever the top of the line version was), and found the remote to be ugly and clunky. It reminded me of my toddlers' toys which I did not like. The Apple TV remote's touch pad is awesome as it allows me to rapidly navigate, and the mic is by far the best feature.
But it would not be wrong. My wife and I we both own iPhones and we share an Apple TV. So both Apple customers own an Apple TV. The wording may be not clear but it’s not wrong.
I agree with this, it certainly isn't the best or worst, but ultimately I use a Harmony remote as it covers all my devices.
We bought an Apple TV 4K this weekend as a hopeful replacement for a 10 year old Mac mini that has reliably served as an HTPC.
I've never understood all the negativity for iTunes. We dropped cable, I suppose, about 15 years ago and started purchasing movies and shows from iTunes as soon as they were offered. We've built up a huge library of premium content, just the content, that we enjoy again and again and again. And, we purchased on our budget and our schedule. Cutting back when our budget didn't permit, and only buying quality content. iTunes has had minor UI/UX issues from time to time, but always enjoyable and functional, even for many thousands of movies, shows, and songs.
It's been great, and affordable, but this push towards subscribing for every network just seems ridiculously expensive.
So, we love the hardware, the remote, the voice control, and the software are just premium, but the push to subscriptions is repulsive. If the trend continues, the Apple TV and Apple TV app are going to become worthless, at least to us, because we do like to purchase content on our schedule, our budget. We like that level of control, and the ability to continue to enjoy our library of purchases. Meaning, it only has value to us as a media center and way to make purchases for our library, not as a never ending, expensive subscription portal.
Surely the trend cannot continue. Are people really willing, wanting to pay hundreds of dollars a month for a handful of shows from dozens of "channels".
I've never understood all the negativity for iTunes. We dropped cable, I suppose, about 15 years ago and started purchasing movies and shows from iTunes as soon as they were offered. We've built up a huge library of premium content, just the content, that we enjoy again and again and again. And, we purchased on our budget and our schedule. Cutting back when our budget didn't permit, and only buying quality content. iTunes has had minor UI/UX issues from time to time, but always enjoyable and functional, even for many thousands of movies, shows, and songs.
It's been great, and affordable, but this push towards subscribing for every network just seems ridiculously expensive.
So, we love the hardware, the remote, the voice control, and the software are just premium, but the push to subscriptions is repulsive. If the trend continues, the Apple TV and Apple TV app are going to become worthless, at least to us, because we do like to purchase content on our schedule, our budget. We like that level of control, and the ability to continue to enjoy our library of purchases. Meaning, it only has value to us as a media center and way to make purchases for our library, not as a never ending, expensive subscription portal.
Surely the trend cannot continue. Are people really willing, wanting to pay hundreds of dollars a month for a handful of shows from dozens of "channels".
I own an apple TV, but I don't think it's been plugged in in over a year, possibly two. I wonder how many people like me there are, who technically own one, but never use it.
I doubt many people pay at least 150 for something and never use it. You can use a site like gazelle and get money for it
The fact most TVs have smart functionality baked in isn't lost on Apple - this month, many of them gained access to an official Apple TV app for watching Apple TV+, iTunes, and App Store subscription video content.
I think Apple are hoping the access to their other services - Apple Music, iTunes in the Cloud, iCloud Photos, Apple Arcade, and so on might keep people on their devices; and their UI and app store experience are better than some (but not all) of the competition.
Let's deconstruct your post as well:
- Chrome cast costs only $45, Apple TV doens't have any value proposition at 179 or 199 considering MOST people just watch youtube and netflix. In fact my own Apple TV, the usage is 40% youtube, 40% nextflix and 20% infuse. I don't see ANY of my friends buying AppleTV, and none of my parents or family members want AppleTV (they think its a waste of money / don't see the point)
- You don't need an A12 chip, but its far more expensive to keep an old chip line alive, than throwing in a batch of your latest, especially with the efficiencies in both manufacturing. I'm sure an A12 is cheaper than an A10x over time. You also don't need a fan in an A12 so you save that cost. Your point is really just full of apple fanboyism.
- This point is absolutely asinine. What does this even mean? 75% of Apple users don't even have an Apple TV for their TV's, I'm sure 100% of Apple users have a TV. Apple owns the ecosystem, but can't appeal to TV users.
- No body cares about this point, AppleTV isn't appealing enough to install, and most TVs now run on Tizen, android and others. You are far mistaken to think that and I think you haven't really seen a smart TV in the last few years.
- I have an AppleTV, Homepod, and don't see the point of this smart home hub, completely sidetracked point here. Smart hub is as valuable as the nonexistent homekit devices that are made for it. And the ones that are barely work properly.
- Your last statement is cherry picking. You want AppleTV to grow, but every TV will have airplay on it anyway, so going forward, you'll be in a field that's far more competitive and far less in need of Apple TV's when TVs can do most of what an Apple TV really is useful for (airplaying content to the TV).
Their strategy is absolutely stupid, and people who think it's not... seirously.
I use my regular TV remote with my Apple TV... zero setup it just works.
What surprises me the most is the success of the HomePod in the category and the lack of effort on Apple's part to support new languages and launch it in more and more countries (leaving aside the fact that Siri need improvement, and a TON of it). If the device has so much success, why is Apple not pushing it much more? It means that it could have a market in other parts of the world if Siri spoke more languages (which it does on all other iOS devices and this is also a mystery to me). I personally own 2 AppleTVs outside the US and find them SUPER useful for Netflix, some broadcaster's own apps, pictures, Apple Music, and so on. I also own a HomePod and, luckily, I speak english. But I wish the HomePod would speak my native language as it would make it more useful and more "natural" for me to interact with. The AppleWatch, I own one of those as well, is a FENOMENAL device. I really like it and will, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, upgrade to a series 5. I absolutely like the device. But the HomePod needs more love. The AppleTV and specifically AppleTV+ needs an interface overhaul. Specifically a favorites list, alerts for upcoming shows, better "skip intro" and "next episode" for binge watching...
I suspect it was the idea of, each network/service (HBO, etc.) having an app, each implementing a standard API for getting lists of available movies/shows/episodes, and for playing/pausing and random access within a video, so that Apple could implement a unified front end - search all content across providers with a unified interface, watch whatever you want with a familiar/unchanging set of controls (likely with Apple helping facilitate subscribing to services if you don't have the needed subscription already).
The current TV app is a mediocre implementation of this (has gone lately towards advertising things you don't watch rather than making access easy to things you do watch). Part of the problem was networks/services dragging their feet for a long time, not wanting to provide the necessary information/hooks (they want your exclusive attention in their app). Another part of the problem is Apple now having their own streaming service, so that they have a vested interest in getting you excited about that, rather than being totally "on your side". (WatchAid seems closer to the mark - it's a little bare bones, but it doesn't get in your face with suggestions, provides very direct access to what you want to watch, and keeps track of what you have/haven't watched, popping up a notification badge for new episodes available.)
Anyway, there was some point at which, in their presentations, they were making a deal out of "the future of television is apps." I think that was Steve's big idea.
I own two but don't use one of them and the other one is strictly for AirPlay (maybe 3 times a year). So yeah, I fall into that 25% crowd but I'm not planning on buying another one. too expensive, too buggy, too annoying to use. My smart TV is much better.
Impedance and sensitivity only matter if you're driving the speaker with an external amplifier - they're pretty meaningless statistics for a powered speaker. I would have said frequency response, clarity/accuracy, soundstage, and, you, know, how the thing actually sounds are the qualities by which one would judge a "real quality speaker".
You're right that it's not the primary function, but Apple Arcade shouldn't be viewed any differently in terms of Apple's commitment than Apple Music or Apple TV+. I also think you need to consider the fact that the A13X is now the more likely candidate for an updated ATV and that the capabilities for that SoC have yet to be revealed. There isn't really a logical reason for Apple to wait until 2020 to release an A12X ATV. There is if they're going to use the A13X.
It shouldn't matter how old it is. I'm not sure what Apple would change to make an upgrade worth while. It's already a really solid product as it is today, and it's plenty fast. I just don't see a need for a new one. I like having my ATV 4K, but I don't think there is anything they could do with a new model to make me want to upgrade.
Apple TV user since 2010. Absolutely flawless, incredible product.
Since 2012 i's been out main box - we got rid of discs & satellite.
Incredible Apple experience - I love it!
Since 2012 i's been out main box - we got rid of discs & satellite.
Incredible Apple experience - I love it!
The Apple TV has been around for over 12 years. It's like asking how many people are going to own an old iPhone, the number is probably huge. It doesn't mean anything though.
