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I'm very much different than you in that I don't call everyone who buys a new iMac now crazy based on the supposition that a new version will be released in months, when in fact we all have no idea when a new version will come out. Many of us thought that the 2012 model would be out in the summer, and that turned out to be completely off-base. Maybe the next model will be out in months, maybe it won't. Either way, it just doesn't matter that much to me, and it clearly matters a LOT to you. But I'm not going to call you crazy simply because it matters to you. There's nothing wrong with being mad at Apple because you think they will release the next version in a few months, but I just don't get the need to call people names because it doesn't matter to them or because it matters to them and they buy now anyway.

While I agree that this particular launch could have been handled better, I disagree that Apple's inability to be perfect or to do absolutely everything the way customers want them to means that they now take their customers for granted. They're certainly not infallible, and my personal opinion is that it isn't fair to expect them to be.

Also, why on earth would you even attempt to argue with a woman? You know you can't win, right? You may be 100% sure that your point of view is the correct one, but you still can't win. By virtue of my gender, I have the upper hand and you might as well concede. ;)

Update: My husband just read this and said, "It's too long. You need a headline that says, 'You're wrong and you're stupid'." I pointed out that this directly contradicts what I said in the post about calling people names. He said, "Yeah, but it's concise". That, in a nutshell, is why men can't win an argument with a woman. For every one reason a man has, a woman has 34.

Wow! Now, is there a way I can subscribe to your posts & replies?! :)

Seriously though... great response! I would never dare to argue with you. Ever. :D
 
I'm very much different than you in that I don't call everyone who buys a new iMac now crazy based on the supposition that a new version will be released in months, when in fact we all have no idea when a new version will come out. Many of us thought that the 2012 model would be out in the summer, and that turned out to be completely off-base. Maybe the next model will be out in months, maybe it won't. Either way, it just doesn't matter that much to me, and it clearly matters a LOT to you. But I'm not going to call you crazy simply because it matters to you. There's nothing wrong with being mad at Apple because you think they will release the next version in a few months, but I just don't get the need to call people names because it doesn't matter to them or because it matters to them and they buy now anyway.

While I agree that this particular launch could have been handled better, I disagree that Apple's inability to be perfect or to do absolutely everything the way customers want them to means that they now take their customers for granted. They're certainly not infallible, and my personal opinion is that it isn't fair to expect them to be.

Also, why on earth would you even attempt to argue with a woman? You know you can't win, right? You may be 100% sure that your point of view is the correct one, but you still can't win. By virtue of my gender, I have the upper hand and you might as well concede. ;)

Update: My husband just read this and said, "It's too long. You need a headline that says, 'You're wrong and you're stupid'." I pointed out that this directly contradicts what I said in the post about calling people names. He said, "Yeah, but it's concise". That, in a nutshell, is why men can't win an argument with a woman. For every one reason a man has, a woman has 34.

Fine. You're right. Can I have my iMac now?
 
I'm very much different than you in that I don't call everyone who buys a new iMac now crazy based on the supposition that a new version will be released in months, when in fact we all have no idea when a new version will come out. Many of us thought that the 2012 model would be out in the summer, and that turned out to be completely off-base. Maybe the next model will be out in months, maybe it won't. Either way, it just doesn't matter that much to me, and it clearly matters a LOT to you. But I'm not going to call you crazy simply because it matters to you. There's nothing wrong with being mad at Apple because you think they will release the next version in a few months, but I just don't get the need to call people names because it doesn't matter to them or because it matters to them and they buy now anyway.

While I agree that this particular launch could have been handled better, I disagree that Apple's inability to be perfect or to do absolutely everything the way customers want them to means that they now take their customers for granted. They're certainly not infallible, and my personal opinion is that it isn't fair to expect them to be.

Also, why on earth would you even attempt to argue with a woman? You know you can't win, right? You may be 100% sure that your point of view is the correct one, but you still can't win. By virtue of my gender, I have the upper hand and you might as well concede. ;)

Update: My husband just read this and said, "It's too long. You need a headline that says, 'You're wrong and you're stupid'." I pointed out that this directly contradicts what I said in the post about calling people names. He said, "Yeah, but it's concise". That, in a nutshell, is why men can't win an argument with a woman. For every one reason a man has, a woman has 34.

Not sure what you think women are "winning", when they have 34 pointless reasons and just don't stop talking ; )
 
Called Apple last night, as many other have, and the guy working in sales was telling me that their delivery windows tend to be fairly conservative -- then again, that IS what a sales person would tell you ;)

The lady I spoke to in customer service was great and seemed really apologetic for the wait. I think Apple's actually pretty embarrassed by how supply-constrained they are with this launch (as they should be). In any case, she bumped up my shipping to expedited for free. I also had been waffling between a wired and wireless keyboard (I had ordered the wired keyboard).. and like many others, I was offered one for free. Pretty great service gestures by Apple.

My delivery estimate moved from Dec 24-31 to Dec 20-27, shipping to California.
 
I'm very much different than you in that I don't call everyone who buys a new iMac now crazy based on the supposition that a new version will be released in months, when in fact we all have no idea when a new version will come out. Many of us thought that the 2012 model would be out in the summer, and that turned out to be completely off-base. Maybe the next model will be out in months, maybe it won't. Either way, it just doesn't matter that much to me, and it clearly matters a LOT to you. But I'm not going to call you crazy simply because it matters to you. There's nothing wrong with being mad at Apple because you think they will release the next version in a few months, but I just don't get the need to call people names because it doesn't matter to them or because it matters to them and they buy now anyway.

While I agree that this particular launch could have been handled better, I disagree that Apple's inability to be perfect or to do absolutely everything the way customers want them to means that they now take their customers for granted. They're certainly not infallible, and my personal opinion is that it isn't fair to expect them to be.

Also, why on earth would you even attempt to argue with a woman? You know you can't win, right? You may be 100% sure that your point of view is the correct one, but you still can't win. By virtue of my gender, I have the upper hand and you might as well concede. ;)

Update: My husband just read this and said, "It's too long. You need a headline that says, 'You're wrong and you're stupid'." I pointed out that this directly contradicts what I said in the post about calling people names. He said, "Yeah, but it's concise". That, in a nutshell, is why men can't win an argument with a woman. For every one reason a man has, a woman has 34.

Hmm! well for a mere woman you have managed to attribute quotes to me that to my certain knowledge I never made. I didn't call anyone names, I was referring to the situation i.e. all that money for a model late to market which may well be superseded within months, that was what I consider to be crazy. I will of course happily accept your apology?
 
To the people getting their dates moved up, you guys don't have BTO right? I tried moving mine up but they said they cant because its BTO and thats the delay
 
To the people getting their dates moved up, you guys don't have BTO right? I tried moving mine up but they said they cant because its BTO and thats the delay

I ordered a BTO 27" on Dec. 2. My original delivery est. range was January 2-8. I called yesterday and they upgraded me to Next Day shipping for free. My new range is Dec. 28 - Jan. 4. I am in Florida.

Btw, I see several of you received complimentary trackpads or Magic Mouse when you called. I have no need for those, but is there anything else you think they would throw in for free if I called back?
 
I have no idea how you guys are getting your shipping methods bumped up. I have called three times now to try to get mine bumped, and each time the person says it isn't possible. I've offered to pay, told them I know people that did have their shipping method changed, everything I can think of, all while being super polite and friendly.

I did get a free trackpad, which I'm definitely not complaining about, but it's baffling that some people have called and gotten their shipping method changed so easily, and after trying three times I haven't had any such luck.

It's probably time for me to stop trying, but my obsession over this iMac is reaching levels that I haven't experienced since my Super Nintendo days.
 
I have no idea how you guys are getting your shipping methods bumped up. I have called three times now to try to get mine bumped, and each time the person says it isn't possible. I've offered to pay, told them I know people that did have their shipping method changed, everything I can think of, all while being super polite and friendly.

I did get a free trackpad, which I'm definitely not complaining about, but it's baffling that some people have called and gotten their shipping method changed so easily, and after trying three times I haven't had any such luck.

It's probably time for me to stop trying, but my obsession over this iMac is reaching levels that I haven't experienced since my Super Nintendo days.

lame. i've been trying to get a free trackpad but they only helped with my shipping. i called 3 times :p
 
^^^They enter notes about each call. So now, each time you call, they're aware of what you're trying to do.
 
Btw, I see several of you received complimentary trackpads or Magic Mouse when you called. I have no need for those, but is there anything else you think they would throw in for free if I called back?

Maybe a 21.5" iMac to tide you over until the 27" iMac arrives? :)
 
Maybe a 21.5" iMac to tide you over until the 27" iMac arrives? :)

Oooh, that sounds lovely. I got a free Apple TV. I didn't fish for it, didn't even know it was a possibility. They're feeling generous this X mas.:D
 
Hey does anyone know when the 27"s are expected to be available in the retail stores?
 
apple website now stating simply 'january' despatch for the 27" model. I have a delivery date of 31st-7th.
 
wow, seriously? that's pretty awesome... I'd have taken that over expedited shipping any day...

I kept asking her if she was serious, I couldn't believe it. I *didn't* believe it until I saw it appended to my order at zero cost and shipped. I'll receive it on the 11th.
 
I have no idea how you guys are getting your shipping methods bumped up. I have called three times now to try to get mine bumped, and each time the person says it isn't possible. I've offered to pay, told them I know people that did have their shipping method changed, everything I can think of, all while being super polite and friendly.

I did get a free trackpad, which I'm definitely not complaining about, but it's baffling that some people have called and gotten their shipping method changed so easily, and after trying three times I haven't had any such luck.

It's probably time for me to stop trying, but my obsession over this iMac is reaching levels that I haven't experienced since my Super Nintendo days.

Really? I called a few days back and simply asked if there was anyway they could get my iMac to me sooner. He asks me to hold for a minute and when he came back he said I would be able to get between the 21st and 31st. No questions asked. No free trackpad though, maybe I'll try calling again
 
Hmm! well for a mere woman you have managed to attribute quotes to me that to my certain knowledge I never made. I didn't call anyone names, I was referring to the situation i.e. all that money for a model late to market which may well be superseded within months, that was what I consider to be crazy. I will of course happily accept your apology?

I didn't actually attribute anything to you that you didn't say. What I did was interpret what you said, which is not the same thing. You did say, and I quote, "Absolutely crazy - all that money for a model that's now not going to be shipped until 2013." You can make a semantic argument that you were saying that spending all that money (...) was crazy rather than the people themselves being crazy, but it's a pretty small distinction. In any case, my point was that people have perfectly legitimate reasons to buy their iMacs now (needing to deduct it from this year's taxes, needing to spend funds before the end of the fiscal year, having a dead computer) and that's hardly crazy. I do think perhaps you missed the tongue in cheek tone of my post.

Anyway, I'd rather talk about iMacs than spend any more time arguing over semantics. I'm very much looking forward to the arrival of my new iMac.
 
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