27-Inch iMac Continues to See Extended Shipping Estimates Ahead of Rumored WWDC Update

[ATHmathieu]

30% off is pretty nice! I'm a sucker and paid full price from Apple (mine's the 8-core and Vega 48 and I upgraded to 64 GB of OWC ram) but it's still worth it

Nice setup! I’ll see when it arrives if it lives up to the description otherwise it goes back. I’ve been wanting one of these for a while and with prolonged WFH it’s needed.

 

[ke-iron]

In the meantime, people who want those bezels can take a photo of the area behind their iMac, cut a hole for the screen, and hang it in front.

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Sheer beauty of such a large screen with ultra thin bezels. I’m buying this on day one!

 

[Kaaralex]

In 2015, I ordered a 15"MBP, maxed custom config, ordered on Sunday, the thing arrived on Thursday (pretty wild, considering it was shipped from China to EU.)
On April 20th 2020, ordered new Air, custom config (albeit a very minor mone, just beefed up RAM, nothing complicated...), the shipping estimate was "4-5 weeks", it arrived EXACTLY after 5 weeks (May 30th.)
Beg May, ordered 27" iMac, custom config, the shipping estimate after purchase said "delivery between Jun 3rd-Jun10th", it arrived yday, on Jun 10th, e.g. EXACTLY 5 weeks after the order.

So as stated below, the lead times are simply much longer these days than what we were used for them to be, therefor I would NOT make up too much from the fact that a shipping date of a Mac falls past WWDC. The lead time for iMacs and Macbooks are simply pretty long now (at least for the beefed up configs that I was buying.)

As stated elsewhere (I would expect Macrumors to keep up) the slipping has been going on for ages and its believed that the reason was the panel for 27" from the supplier. Its also believed that the reason why iMac Pro is available is because Apple prioritise that instead as it has higher margin.
With iMac refresh being imminent it also makes sense as Apple would probably have to deal with returns especially when the stores were closed and the return period got extended.
It would also be nicer reporting, if you at least went to iMac forum and took the info thats in the massive thread there as there is a lot of valuable info. That would make for far better article than this.
Sorry, but For Fusion Sake

 

[Art Mark]

I suggest we wait until WWDC before making any buying decisions.

My fears are not so much moving to ARM in itself, but that Apple might use this architecture change to lock down the platform and require signing to run all code. Even if the signing is freely given (as it is when using free provisioning on iOS) it would make the platform no longer open and make me seriously question continuing to be a Mac user.

Let's hope my paranoia isn't justified.

That is a valid concern. For me, it's simply the quality and timeliness of the ports. I just need a base set of apps to make my living. I would think that they wouldn't copy the lock-down methods of iOS as a lot of that is based on these devices being so portable and losable and theft prone. I think my phone would be more dangerous for me to lose than my iMac.

 

[sakurarain]

anything about iMac Pro? This will probably be faster then the current iMac Pro...
regardless this was way over due!!

I read an article somewhere (around the launch of the Mac Pro) that said the iMac Pro is an interim product, before the current Mac Pro appears.

 

[Sandstorm]

I've been wanting to upgrade my iMac, but will only do that after a true redesign. Besides the usual architecture/speed upgrades I hope they finally introduce Face ID, better webcam/mics and faster refresh rate display (call it "true-motion" or whatever). Oh, and I REALLY REALLY hope on larger screen size (32-inch Retina 6K will suffice, thank you!).

 

[newyorksole]

I just pulled the trigger on a new 2019 iMac for $1835. 27” 3.7ghz 16gb ram 512gb ssd 580X

hope it’s worth it

Oh totally worth it, BUT I just know the new model is gonna be sweet Lol. Decisions decisions.

You got a similar setup to mine haha.
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Well, I'll just say the new one is going to really have to blow me out of the water for me to do that. And for the record, thin bezels in and of themselsves won't budge me in the least. A 32" display would budge me a bit, but it's going to have to be that and a few other big things on that order for me to sell my 2019. I don't think that's going to happen (i.e. THAT many big changes), but who knows. Will be exciting to see in any case.

If the price is right, display is *somewhat* similar to XDR quality, Face ID, thin bezels, better FaceTime camera... Those things alone are very enticing.

We’ll see very soon.

 

[ke-iron]

so true. Target display mode is greatly missed. Screen Sharing over network somewhat works, I am using that now but it's limited in screen size.
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I bet they get rid of the RAM Access. No more fusion is the rumor and very likely. 5400rpm hdd in 2020, common apple.

It’s almost obvious they’ll use flash like they do in all their laptops.

 

[HeavyMantra]

My beers will (on the 22nd) be cold.

What, you need to take the edge off before looking at those prices?

 

[2ilent8cho]

We just put out for quotes for 20 iMacs at work last week, some of the quotes from resellers have come back with notes saying Apple has advised product changes very soon so if new iMacs are not shown off at WWDC i will be surprised.

 

[Val-kyrie]

Apple really needs to incorporate mini LED technology. MSI has just released its Creator 17 notebook with a 17.3” mini LED display “offering 4K(3840 x 2160) with up to 1180 nits of brightness, 100% DCI-P3 color wide color gamut and 240 zone local dimming.”

With WWDC less than two weeks away, a number of MacRumors readers have noticed that shipping estimates for Apple's stock 27-inch iMac configurations are now listed as after the June 22 WWDC kickoff, leading some to believe that this is evidence of an iMac update coming at the keynote.

MacRumors mockup of iPad Pro-style ‌iMac‌​

While there are indeed rumors of an imminent significant update for the iMac, perhaps at WWDC, the shipping estimates are not a reliable indicator of this. Apple has been quoting extended shipping estimates on both stock and build-to-order configurations of the 27-inch iMac for over a month, so current quotes are nothing new and they slip back roughly day-by-day as time passes.

It's not entirely clear why shipping estimates initially slipped, as it happened while the global health crisis was affecting supply and manufacturing chains around the world. Certain component shortages could easily have slowed Apple's ability to produce machines, but the company may also be intentionally reducing inventories ahead of new models and only building what's necessary to fulfill orders.

Notably, the 21.5-inch iMac is not seeing extended shipping estimates at the present time as its availability has generally held up better than for its larger sibling.

As noted in our Buyer's Guide, the iMac is definitely due for an update, and we've been hearing significant rumors about an imminent update. Previously reliable leaker CoinX said in March that an iMac update was coming "soon," while an April rumor claimed a new low-cost 23-inch iMac is coming in the second half of the year.

Mark Gurman said in late April that a "substantial" iMac update with a possible redesign would be coming later in the year, and just yesterday, Sonny Dickson claimed that a redesigned iMac with "iPad Pro design language" will be coming at WWDC.

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[BayouTiger]

Everyone getting excited about what is shown as a "MacRumors mockup" of an iMac with iPad overtones! I don't see how the form they are alluding to is practical as a flat, thin housing would be very limiting as to cooling and mounting and other more mechanical aspects. An iMac without a VESA mounting option would not likely be an option for me.

As to the whole "the i9 is better than the iMac Pro already argument, I say that if that is the case for you then great, but if I hit the i9 with the workload I toss at my iMP daily, it would be like having a vacuum cleaner on my desk while my iMP (and the trash can before it) are barely noticeable, if at all. I know I hate the constant noise of my 16".

 

[Onelifenofear]

There was a patent for a pencil enabled trackpad.

Meh - Wacoms have been round decades. With way more comfortable pens! Needs to be a giant studio pen and touch enabled screen to be special.
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Everyone getting excited about what is shown as a "MacRumors mockup" of an iMac with iPad overtones! I don't see how the form they are alluding to is practical as a flat, thin housing would be very limiting as to cooling and mounting and other more mechanical aspects. An iMac without a VESA mounting option would not likely be an option for me.

As to the whole "the i9 is better than the iMac Pro already argument, I say that if that is the case for you then great, but if I hit the i9 with the workload I toss at my iMP daily, it would be like having a vacuum cleaner on my desk while my iMP (and the trash can before it) are barely noticeable, if at all. I know I hate the constant noise of my 16".

I imagine its the front and sides that are flat - would still bulge to the vesa / stand mount - or they may have a magnetic attachment

People don't understand workstation CPUs and GPUs.

 

[recoil80]

If they redesign the iMac I think they can get rid of the iMac Pro
Just put the best possible thermal design in the new iMac and have a range of CPU options including the Xeon for people with high performance needs.

 

[Sokratesagogo]

"iPad Pro Design Language". Great! Especially if a 12.5" tablet is just too small for your purposes ;-)

 

[Onelifenofear]

If they redesign the iMac I think they can get rid of the iMac Pro
Just put the best possible thermal design in the new iMac and have a range of CPU options including the Xeon for people with high performance needs.

Um.. sense make you not. Are you Boris Johnson? They can get ri of the iMac Pro. BUT put in a better thermal design, like the iMac Pro, but they can get rid of it. And have xeons like the iMac Pro. But get rid of the iMac Pro. Go outdoors. Don't go outdoors.

 

[Virinprew]

You could probably open one up and stick a Rasberry Pi or something inside to turn it into a usable display.

Not everyone is a computer engineer, you know.

 

[usagora]

As to the whole "the i9 is better than the iMac Pro already argument, I say that if that is the case for you then great, but if I hit the i9 with the workload I toss at my iMP daily, it would be like having a vacuum cleaner on my desk while my iMP (and the trash can before it) are barely noticeable, if at all. I know I hate the constant noise of my 16".

People don't understand workstation CPUs and GPUs.

Actually, BayouTiger appears to be primarily referring to the cooling system vs. the actual processors, since he's referencing the fan noise. Just because the fans are louder in one computer doesn't mean the processor is having to work harder than one in a quieter computer. It's just not being as effectively cooled (as you may know, the iMac Pro has a far superior cooling system than a 5K iMac).

Um.. sense make you not. Are you Boris Johnson? They can get ri of the iMac Pro. BUT put in a better thermal design, like the iMac Pro, but they can get rid of it. And have xeons like the iMac Pro. But get rid of the iMac Pro. Go outdoors. Don't go outdoors.

Actually it makes total sense. He's simply saying combine the iMac and iMac Pro into one product line: iMac. Thus, they are "getting rid of" the iMac Pro in the sense of the moniker. Whether Apple does that, of course, is yet to be seen.

 

[Freida]

You ordered iMac one month before refresh? You couldn't wait a little longer?

In 2015, I ordered a 15"MBP, maxed custom config, ordered on Sunday, the thing arrived on Thursday (pretty wild, considering it was shipped from China to EU.)
On April 20th 2020, ordered new Air, custom config (albeit a very minor mone, just beefed up RAM, nothing complicated...), the shipping estimate was "4-5 weeks", it arrived EXACTLY after 5 weeks (May 30th.)
Beg May, ordered 27" iMac, custom config, the shipping estimate after purchase said "delivery between Jun 3rd-Jun10th", it arrived yday, on Jun 10th, e.g. EXACTLY 5 weeks after the order.

So as stated below, the lead times are simply much longer these days than what we were used for them to be, therefor I would NOT make up too much from the fact that a shipping date of a Mac falls past WWDC. The lead time for iMacs and Macbooks are simply pretty long now (at least for the beefed up configs that I was buying.)

 

[Zen_Arcade]

If the price is right . . .

It won’t be.

This IS Apple, which provides the least for the most money.

 

[usagora]

You ordered iMac one month before refresh? You couldn't wait a little longer?

Maybe they don't care about the refresh? I also purchased an iMac recently in full knowledge that something new was likely coming, but the machine I bought wasn't lacking anything that I wanted, so no point in waiting for something "better."

 

[CWallace]

Apple really needs to incorporate mini LED technology.

MiniLED has been rumored since March to be coming to the 16" MacBook Pro and iMac Pro this year. It is also rumored to be coming to the iPad line, but that now seems to have been pushed back to early 2021.

 

[Freida]

The point to wait would be to get better deals on the 2019 model. That itself is usually worth it.
Lets see how people who bought recently feel when the new one is announced and either they would want that model or they would like the few hundred $ savings.

Maybe they don't care about the refresh? I also purchased an iMac recently in full knowledge that something new was likely coming, but the machine I bought wasn't lacking anything that I wanted, so no point in waiting for something "better."

 

[4look4rd]

I just pulled the trigger on a new 2019 iMac for $1835. 27” 3.7ghz 16gb ram 512gb ssd 580X

hope it’s worth it

It's not worth it. The specs are so outdated its painful. The 580X is slower than a 1060, a mid range 4 year old GPU. The only good thing about it is the screen.

I put together a hackingtosh for $1000, with a Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB of RAM, Vega 56, and 2.5TB of NVMe storage. Hackintosh isn't for everyone but it puts the pricing into context. MBP are a much better value now than the iMac.

 

[tipoo]

New bezels and everything are great....but here's the real question: Will this thing finally support target-display-mode again? Or, once the internals are out of date, will it become another giant paper-weight?

So much this, as a giant, excellent display, I want to be able to use it for more than the iMacs own internals. Hope it has HDMI-in.