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glad I returned the 2019 iMac when I tried it out in the fall. this will be better in so many ways.
 
The point to wait would be to get better deals on the 2019 model. That itself is usually worth it.
Lets see how people who bought recently feel when the new one is announced and either they would want that model or they would like the few hundred $ savings.

Such is life. At the rate technology changes, to me it's pointless to base my purchasing decisions on things like this unless my budget is SUPER tight, which it wasn't. Plus, I don't want to risk them doing something unexpected with the lineup and/or availability being reduced and then wish I had just bought when it was available.
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glad I returned the 2019 iMac when I tried it out in the fall. this will be better in so many ways.

Well, no one really knows, since it hasn't been announced ;) I'm sure it will be "better" in terms of specs, at least in BTO options, but much of the rest is subjective. Not sure the reasons for you returning your 2019, but I hope the 2020 will be everything you wished for.
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It's not worth it. The specs are so outdated its painful. The 580X is slower than a 1060, a mid range 4 year old GPU. The only good thing about it is the screen.

I've heard nothing but good things from people who've actually used that model (not just people who read spec sheets).

Hackintosh isn't for everyone...

Yeah, like people who abide by the macOS licensing agreement.
 
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Just a theory, but maybe the iMac Pro was only a stop-gap until they could make the Mac Pro. I wouldn't be surprised if they silently kill off the iMac Pro

Or they'll offer iMac Pro, iMac, iMac Air, iMac SE... and update each every 4 years.
 
I disagree but it is your money and your purchase. I simply wouldn't be able to justify such expensive and outdated purchase when new one with better cooling, slimmer bezels and no fusion drive is around the corner. If for anything then it would allow me to make an informed decision when all the cards are on the table. Also, the new iMac will provide better longevity etc. than the 2019 model. The GPU update will be substantial and will give people peace of mind over the 2019 (even if its not RDNA2 but RDNA1 is a big jump). So overall, I would never do what you did as I would feel its the worst value I'm getting.

If you are in return period maybe try to reconsider. But at the end of the day its your money etc. I'm just different and would never do such thing.

Such is life. At the rate technology changes, to me it's pointless to base my purchasing decisions on things like this unless my budget is SUPER tight, which it wasn't. Plus, I don't want to risk them doing something unexpected with the lineup and/or availability being reduced and then wish I had just bought when it was available.
 
I disagree but it is your money and your purchase. I simply wouldn't be able to justify such expensive and outdated purchase when new one with better cooling, slimmer bezels and no fusion drive is around the corner. If for anything then it would allow me to make an informed decision when all the cards are on the table. Also, the new iMac will provide better longevity etc. than the 2019 model. The GPU update will be substantial and will give people peace of mind over the 2019 (even if its not RDNA2 but RDNA1 is a big jump). So overall, I would never do what you did as I would feel its the worst value I'm getting.

If you are in return period maybe try to reconsider. But at the end of the day its your money etc. I'm just different and would never do such thing.

I've been getting by just fine on a base model late-2012 iMac since it came out. I'm going to be just fine with a maxed out 2019 5K for quite a while, believe me. It's an incredibly powerful machine. I don't keep Macs for just a year or two. I use them for the long haul, so being one generation off is not a concern to me. Same for the Apple Watch, iPhone, etc.

Also, I've noted that you and several others are talking about 2020 specs like you know them for sure. You may very well be right, but you simply don't know for sure about the cooling system, bezels (which I barely care about), or no fusion drive option (irrelevant, since I just choose SSD anyway). And on that alleged better cooling system, yes, that would be nice to have a quieter machine, but are you willing to sacrifice user-upgradeable RAM (that is, without voiding the warranty) like on the iMac Pro? So now you're adding to the price by paying Apple's sky-high RAM prices instead of saving money by buying your own RAM.

Anyway, I most certainly made an informed decision with my purchase in full knowledge that something new was likely coming, just like if I were to wait and buy the 2020, I would know that it would also be refreshed within a year, but I wouldn't keep waiting ad infinitum to decide on when to purchase.
 
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lol @ the people who keep mentioning "hackintosh" as if it's a viable option, and wanting to hang on to hope that they can still run one.

I really hope Apple announces at most, some new MacBook Air type products will run their ARM cpus. Mostly, I hope that's not true at all switching to ARM and that what they are really doing, is developing a new "T3" chip or have found usages with their Pro line of Macs, to use ARM chips as great co-processors.

Apple already has ARM "Macs" -> called iPad Pro.

Would be cool to see the new iMac updated, with improved thermals to take over for the iMac Pro crowd. Perhaps if the iMac Pro continued, made with a larger HDR screen like the Pro Display etc. and further improved internals; though I do sort of think the iMac Pro sadly could be dropped in favour of pushing people over to the Mac Pro which makes more sense long-term at the price point of a loaded iMac Pro.
 
Such is life. At the rate technology changes, to me it's pointless to base my purchasing decisions on things like this unless my budget is SUPER tight, which it wasn't. Plus, I don't want to risk them doing something unexpected with the lineup and/or availability being reduced and then wish I had just bought when it was available.
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Well, no one really knows, since it hasn't been announced ;) I'm sure it will be "better" in terms of specs, at least in BTO options, but much of the rest is subjective. Not sure the reasons for you returning your 2019, but I hope the 2020 will be everything you wished for.
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I've heard nothing but good things from people who've actually used that model (not just people who read spec sheets).



Yeah, like people who abide by the macOS licensing agreement.

Fair- it is subjective to ones view. For me, "better" would mean a much larger graphics performance update and offer a higher GB gpu card. Trash the Fusion. Reduce bezels.

FaceID would be nice, as would a backlit wireless keyboard & space gray option.
 
New models will be $400-600 more expensive, mark my words!

If they add $400-600 of additional function and convenience then it’ll be well-deserved earnings!

If Apple removes something (they HAVE to remove something with each new intro) that reduces function or convenience in some noticeable way just to help increase the fashion/form factor, then the raised pitchforks & torches will be well-deserved too.
 
lol @ the people who keep mentioning "hackintosh" as if it's a viable option, and wanting to hang on to hope that they can still run one.

Yeah if the entire Mac lineup now uses Tx chips, they can move future versions of macOS to require the presence of one to boot. Of course, folks can use older versions on Hackintoshes, but eventually support will wind down and as software migrates from Intel to ARM, that well will dry up, too.
 
Oh totally worth it, BUT I just know the new model is gonna be sweet Lol. Decisions decisions.

You got a similar setup to mine haha.
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If the price is right, display is *somewhat* similar to XDR quality, Face ID, thin bezels, better FaceTime camera... Those things alone are very enticing.

We’ll see very soon.

I would love if the new iMac can rotate from portrait to landscape like the pro display too!
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So much this, as a giant, excellent display, I want to be able to use it for more than the iMacs own internals. Hope it has HDMI-in.

yea I’ve always wanted this. I would love to connect my game consoles to it.
 
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Apple could simplify consumer iMac lineup to one model, 23”. If you want bigger, there’s iMac Pro.

I'm not sure how having two sizes of consumer iMacs is complicated 🤔 It would be a shame to have to spend $5000 just to get a 27" screen when the entry point used to be $1800.
 
But I’m sure it looks good on Tim’s spreadsheet.

Well, sure, IF a lot of people who would've bought the 27" consumer iMac would spend 177% more to get the iMac Pro, which I can almost guarantee you the vast majority wouldn't and they'd probably actually lose sales, because who wants to downgrade screen size on a desktop?

If anything, they could make the standard iMac 27" and the iMac Pro 32" But I don't think they're going to eliminate a choice of size in the consumer models.
 
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Apple wearables create as much revenue as the whole Mac lineup. Ipad and Iphone six times more. Together they are 70%. With future AR glasses even more. Mac sales creates 11% of the revenue. I am pretty sure, Apple is looking ways to simplify Mac offerings. Atm, there’s one iMac model too much. Maybe the Pro will go, but if you look at the price of Mac Pro... Apple might think differently.

- 23” consumer iMac and 30” Pro model
- Mac mini and Mac Pro
- Macbook air and Macbook Pro

Perhaps future AppleTv is also Mac mini? Portable Macs are also iPads? What happens to desktops then? Maybe there will be only Pro Macs anymore, with a price tag.
 
Apple wearables create as much revenue as the whole Mac lineup. Ipad and Iphone six times more. Together they are 70%. With future AR glasses even more. Mac sales creates 11% of the revenue. I am pretty sure, Apple is looking ways to simplify Mac offerings. Atm, there’s one iMac model too much. Maybe the Pro will go, but if you look at the price of Mac Pro... Apple might think differently.

- 23” consumer iMac and 30” Pro model
- Mac mini and Mac Pro
- Macbook air and Macbook Pro

Perhaps future AppleTv is also Mac mini? Portable Macs are also iPads? What happens to desktops then? Maybe there will be only Pro Macs anymore, with a price tag.

That 11% is a good chunk of change. I'm no expert analyst, but it would be a sad day if they got rid of notebooks and consumer desktops. I don't think that's happening anytime soon.
 
Yes, please a new iMac (Pro)!

My wish list:
- I don't care about the bulkiness in the back: I prefer better cooling for more performance
- 27 inch screen with slim bezels
- 4 Thunderbolt ports (as with MBP)
- allow other devices to use the iMac as external monitor through Thunderbolt
 
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Mac sales creates 11% of the revenue. I am pretty sure, Apple is looking ways to simplify Mac offerings. Atm, there’s one iMac model too much. Maybe the Pro will go, but if you look at the price of Mac Pro... Apple might think differently.

Apple expanding their Mac offerings over the decade has resulted in new highs in both shipments and revenue. The Mac may be the smallest part of Apple's revenue portfolio, but if it was independent, it would still be in the Fortune 500.

That being said, I do agree there is one Mac model too many and the 13" MacBook Pro with 2 TB3 ports needs to be scrapped as the MacBook Air has that market segment covered. And I expect that when the rumored 14" MacBook Pro drops, it will only be offered with four TB3 ports.
 
Yes, please a new iMac (Pro)!

My wish list:
- I don't care about the bulkiness in the back: I prefer better cooling for more performance
- 27 inch screen with slim bezels
- 4 Thunderbolt ports (as with MBP)
- allow other devices to use the iMac as external monitor through Thunderbolt
Forget Thunderbolt. They should just release Mac-to-Mac Sidecar. That way, the iMac can be the primary Mac if desired and a MacBook Pro or Air can be the external display. That was never possible with Target Display Mode.
 
Hope they make a 32 inch version and they let users chopse silver or space gray like on macbook pro :)
 
It's not worth it. The specs are so outdated its painful. The 580X is slower than a 1060, a mid range 4 year old GPU. The only good thing about it is the screen.

I put together a hackingtosh for $1000, with a Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB of RAM, Vega 56, and 2.5TB of NVMe storage. Hackintosh isn't for everyone but it puts the pricing into context. MBP are a much better value now than the iMac.

Well - the iMac arrived today from CDW. It's brand new and sealed in box. BONUS: I checked the serial # and it has Applecare+ until March 2023
 
MiniLED has been rumored since March to be coming to the 16" MacBook Pro and iMac Pro this year. It is also rumored to be coming to the iPad line, but that now seems to have been pushed back to early 2021.

I appreciate the rumored timeframe, but my point still stands--Apple used to lead the industry with technological advances; now they don't. MSI is using mini-LED technology now.
 
I appreciate the rumored timeframe, but my point still stands--Apple used to lead the industry with technological advances; now they don't. MSI is using mini-LED technology now.

While Apple may no longer be first with new technologies, when they do adopt them, they do it better than those who came before. They often take what are seen as "gimmicks" and make them "features".

As such, I would not be surprised if the MacBook Pro's MiniLED display is superior to MSI's and since the display is a critical part of a computer, I'd rather wait a bit longer for a better display.
 
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