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27-Inch LED Cinema Display Coming Tomorrow Alongside iMacs and Mac Pros?

animatedude said:
do we really need a 27' display? and faster iMacs? NO. what we need is a proper new iPhone and lots of love.

peace :eek:
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What we need is better desktops and displays, so that the iDevices can be programmed/made. It's sad how Apple is seemingly placing the roots of their success on the back-burner, whist focusing too much on the iToys. :(
 
New 27" ACD's Must have better Color Gamut

Apple's current 24" ACD's have a poor to fair Adobe RGB gamut rating and do not compare as well (color gamut wise, and color calibration) against the cheaper ($550 vs $899) HP LP2475w 24″ Monitor.

http://blog.david-kennedy.com/2009/10/15/apple-cinema-24-versus-hp-lp2475w-24/

As a photographer who relies upon having the best color accuracy possible, none of Apple's cinema displays have been up to the task for quite awhile now - even the 30" is woefully lacking in color accuracy for color critical work.

NEC, Eizo, LaCie, HP, and a couple of the Dell's (2707 & 2408 and 3008WFP's) have bypassed Apple in this very important area quite awhile ago. Apple use to rule with their LCD displays when they were the first to introduce a high resolution (1920x1200) 23" ACD way back in 1999 - over a decade ago. Since then, Apple has continued to produce well designed and very respectable LCD monitors that compare favorably to similar LCD offerings by other companies - except in the area of cost. And more recently, with the release of their 24" LED Display, Apple seems to have notched downward in providing a higher-end, professional grade LCD option when it comes to not only color accuracy, but in overall features (limited connectivity options - along with proprietary mini-display port interface), and having only a "glossy" panel option - which is a definite no-go for many design, video and imaging professionals.

Apple will at least have to match - if not exceed Dell's very well received newest 27" LCD monitor: the U2711.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=224-8284

And Apple won't be able to charge much more than Dell's newest 27" ($999-1099) and they will also have to at least offer an option for a matte screen version of it if they want to be taken more seriously as a viable option with higher-end imaging and design professionals.

If they just offer another 27" LED sporting a proprietary mini-display port, glossy screen and less than 90% Adobe RGB gamut for more than $1400, then except for a few Mac only diehards - it's not going to turn many heads, or entice non-mac folks to buy one.

I currently have the great pleasure of working with one of the very best LCD monitors available right now: the LaCie 730 30" LED 14-bit monitor with BlueEye PE. I purchased one for $1500 Refurbished. If Apple were to ever offer anything on this level in a 30" format - then they might be back in the game of professional, high-end imaging.
 
inkhead said:
I like how @gruber gets credit for something I posted 2 months ago to the exact date for the release include the release date for the magic pad…

Wow mac rumors…not
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After searching through the handful f posts you have made on MR this year, I have yet to find one single post that even resembles the above statement......
 
With regard to media events and coverage: short of about 12-14 years ago, when Jobs returned, I don't remember big announcements of things except at Macworld. New Mac models would come out every 3/6/9 months, with no farfare. The PowerMacs and Performas would get upped (Performa 6300/100...later 6300/120, etc) with no special announcement. Only with the announcement of the original iMac, etc, would things be hoisted with huge fanfare. The problem is that the iMac, MacBook, etc, are no longer "cutting edge" in the sense that they are simply iterations of the same thing being upgraded. The original iMac "wowed" the public, and now the iPhone and iPad "wow" the public. Apple is still a company that markets products that need to sell, and it's latest and greatest get the most of the spotlight.

You can argue that the iPhone is now an old idea, but it is where most people's attention is at this moment. The old Apple core of users, the decades-long Macintosh crowd, isn't really going anywhere, and Apple knows this. We will find out about and be interested in their computers without the WWDC, NYTimes articles, and special media events. The general public, however, relies on bedazzlement for their iPhones and iPads.

In the end, we should be glad that the iPhones and iPads get the attention and generate revenue the way that they do. If they had not helped the company along, the Macintosh would likely still be in as much danger as it was in 1997.
 
LagunaSol said:
Agreed. The Mac Pro case is as timeless classic as you'll ever find in the PC world. I'd hate to see them change it just for the sake of change. The Mac Pro will still look good 10, 20 years from now. It's the Leica of computers.
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Fine, but as soon as the new case comes out - within two months everyone will rave about the new case and say how "dated" the aluminum cheese grater is. (Remember all the "fugly" posts about the leaked Gizmodo Iphone 4 images....)

:)

My main issue with the maxi-tower Mac Pro case is that it's just too big for what you get inside. Only 4 hard drives? Two optical. Dell and HP put that in a case that's less than 2/3 the volume of the Mac Pro. Get a Mac Pro-sized case from a workstation vendor like SuperMicro - and it'll have 6 to 8 hot swap SATA bays built in.

It's not a bad case (although the design is stale), but it's bigger and more expensive than it needs to be for the people who only need a quad or hex core single socket mini-tower.
 
LagunaSol said:
LOL! Um, no. Not until Steve Jobs dies and they shut down the company and give refunds to all the shareholders.
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This would suffice as a tipping-point, only. :)

The Mac Pro (workstation) case, now has 'too much' room for expandability.

For some, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

LagunaSol said:
As for the new displays, here's hoping Apple will bridge the premium pricing gap on these from excruciating-irrational to painful-but-worth-it.
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I'd be happy with a slight price-reduction across the board.

As it stands, the 30" Cinema HD Display, 2560 x 1600, at the current price of $1,799.00, seems 'not too far' from reasonable.

An update to LED with better contrast would be welcome.

Here's hoping Christmas comes early this year! 7/27/2010.
 
AidenShaw said:
My main issue with the maxi-tower Mac Pro case is that it's just too big for what you get inside. Only 4 hard drives? Two optical. Dell and HP put that in a case that's less than 2/3 the volume of the Mac Pro. Get a Mac Pro-sized case from a workstation vendor like SuperMicro - and it'll have 6 to 8 hot swap SATA bays built in.
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The MacPro's case is really a much better system design than what you will get with HP, Dell or SuperMicro from the standpoints of build quality etc. It's sort of like what you would expect from server hardware but without the constraints of requiring a lot of HVAC infrastructure etc. like with racks of blades or 1U servers. In a sense, the MacPro's have always been a sort of hybrid. For people who need the specific combination of features, it may make sense. That may, however, be a diminishing market niche.

AidenShaw said:
It's not a bad case (although the design is stale), but it's bigger and more expensive than it needs to be for the people who only need a quad or hex core single socket mini-tower.
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I agree with you on this. However, that market may also be a pretty small niche. The difference between real needs vs. perception of needs and/or desires may be a pretty wide gulf. I'd just like to see GCD in OS X work as advertised along with advances in GPU/CPU utilization.....
 
Given how long it took the Core i5/i7 MBPs to come out,
I'm not going to be holding my breath tomorrow.

Frank
 
DMann said:
This would suffice as a tipping-point, only. :)

The Mac Pro (workstation) case, now has 'too much' room for expandability.

For some, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.


I'd be happy with a slight price-reduction across the board.

As it stands, the 30" Cinema HD Display, 2560 x 1600, at the current price of $1,799.00, seems 'not too far' from reasonable.

An update to LED with better contrast would be welcome.

Here's hoping Christmas comes early this year! 7/27/2010.
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haha yayyyyy! we can all only hope now.
 
DMann said:
The Mac Pro (workstation) case, now has 'too much' room for expandability.
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I'm sorry that I wasn't clear and that you didn't understand my post - I was trying to say that the Mac Pro has an enormous case, but actually less expandability than some other systems with cases that are quite a bit smaller. Other systems with cases in the Mac Pro size range have much more expandability.

Anyway - this whole discussion will be moot after Apple announces the quad/hex Core i7 mini-tower tomorrow.

I hope that the mini-tower has two port-multiplier FIS-capable eSATA ports, as well as a couple of PCIe x4 slots available.
 
Amazon.com is now showing low stock on several iMacs and has other listed by 3rd party retailers...not Amazon.com. Could their inventory be low in advance of tomorrow? We can only hope. Off to bed in hopes that tomorrow brings what we have all been waiting for! :apple:
 
AidenShaw said:
I hope that the mini-tower has two port-multiplier FIS-capable eSATA ports, as well as a couple of PCIe x4 slots available.
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AidenShaw,
Do you think we might finally get an update for the 30" ACD? I hope at least 30" or larger. I would extremely disappointed with Apple's largest monitor will be a 27".
 
When?

How many hours until we know if they are released? Is this like a midnight release thing? Or should I just go to bed and wake up around 10 and see what happened?
 
If it doesn't have a DVi connection or an adapter for display-port to work on older Mac's it's gonna cost even more to own a 27 inch LED Display but for me it's worth it i've been waiting for 2yrs for an updated Cinema display so the freaking display better come tomorrow if not the waiting game continues.
 
I plan on buying the new Mac Pro once it becomes available. I just recently bought a 24" Dell monitor, can't wait to see it on that.
 
This would replace my current 24" ACD I bought last year. I could actually hook my previous monitor up to my Mac mini i have upstairs and use this for my room! I cancelled my cable service since I realized that I could watch the news online through YouTube, iTunes podcasts, and watch tv shows through hulu, boxie, etc. I also have netflix! So I'm set there. Now I can enjoy a larger screen and think, good thing i cancelled cabled service. This screen will be great. Too bad there isn't a 32" :D
 
PeterQVenkman said:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=222-7175

Add in a Small Business 10% off coupon readily available online, and Apple's offering seems very far from reasonable.
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You get what you pay for, in this case, a Dell.

Although the 3007WFP has made improvements, with a faster response time, the monitor still has uniformity problems - The backlight is not uniform, and dark regions are noticeable while watching a video, for example.

Also, a few substandard parts allow for a loud buzzing at varying brightness settings.

The monitor runs very hot, despite the vulgar vents constructed in back - hope you've got good ventilation.

Hopefully, you've already purchased an expensive video card capable of dual link DVI output - since the display does absolutely no scaling on its own, you'll get a really poor 1280 x 800 resolution using a regular single-link DVI output, which looks really awful.

Not to mention, Dell claims a viewing area of 30 inches (30-inch viewable image size) which is bogus, as the actual viewing area is 29.7" across. (diagonally)

Many graphics people I work with still prefer the color accuracy of the ACD - to date, I still agree.

Again, here's hoping to an all-around upgrade/price drop tomorrow, or in the near future, at the very least.
 
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