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Sitting in europe with a "delivery estimate 10/19" ... I guess that's what communism must feel like: "Look, we got bananas .. you don't, nanana" ;)
 
I like matte because it doesn't make my eyes burn after extended use :D

But i took the front glass piece off my old late 2007 iMac and the glare and reflections were reduced by about 70%. My eyes felt the difference right away and it looks much improved IMO
 
As a professional designer for over 20 years, Glossy is the only way to go. I could never get accurate colors with a matte screen.

Oh really? Impressive. I've been working with images for the last 38 years, and I've been working with computers since 1981. And you know what? I much prefer matte, I can't stand the glare that glossy screens give me. I hate them. And I remember a MacRumors poll in which most users prefer matte.
That said, the problem is not which one is better, because clearly some prefer matte and some prefer glossy. The problem is that Apple only gives one choice, and that's bad.
 
If you just read the eizo literature they even say that the color performance is pretty much identical, but glossy can cause eye strain.

Exactly. I really can't understand how ppl can sit in front of a glossy monitor for hours. Maybe it's just me, but after half an hour I start having eye strain and headaches, something that I experience with matte displays only after a lot of hours.
 
Please try before you post your ill informed comment. Glossy screens are far more color accurate. Trust me. Ive tried to prove that wrong over and over and over and each time glossy comes out the winner.

My prints are identical to my monitor using my printer and monitor calibration equipment. I can't say the same for even higher end matte monitors.

Let me guess... you're printing to glossy paper, right? :)

No, seriously, I like the glossy ones too.
 
Yes

To me the color is very good, but it is hard to get a good picture of it.

Like the 24" LED ACD I'm sure in a room with very little ambient light it will be very easy to work with. I personally have no windows, and have complete control over the light in the room.

Wow, your personal hatred of anything Microsoft must be really great - to even build your house with no windows :eek:
 
Wow if ever i wanted to hear a bunch of amateurs complain then this is the place to be.

You fools trying to use you "intimate knowledge" of the print industry and process are letting yourselves down because you do not have enough knowledge to lie the way you do without slipping up.

*laugh at people who think they even need color accuracy for what they do.
*laugh at people who seem to think that all printers and printing companies offer absolute accuracy, and therefore any error is with the monitor.
*laugh at people comparing glossy and matte laptop displays as if you could ever hope to achieve an accurate image out of the LCD behind the glass.
*laugh at the people saying they will "just buy" a brand of monitor they will never be able to afford. If you actually needed one of those monitors, you would never have even considered an ACD.
*laugh at people who think their "photography business" needs color accurate monitors. I can guarantee you there would be so many problems with your shoot to print technique that the monitor is the least of your concerns.
*laugh at people looking at a photo, taken by what is most possibly the worst camera ever invented, shot in the worst of settings, with the least amount of thought into how the exposure of the screen is affecting colour, and then basing their expert opinion on such, and then still claiming to be in the business where they need and demand colour accuracy.
*again, laugh at people who think they need colour accuracy.

LOL! Brilliant!

My 5 cents. Personally I prefer the matte, because I find it is kinder to my eyes and I can spend more time working. Glossy is more vibrant with the bling, but it tends to give me a headache.

And yes I do prefer matte photos to glossy ones. I always have.
 
27" iMac?

Does anyone know if these are any different from the display specs for the 27" iMac? You can turn those into "display mode" and connect them to another mac to use as a display. The advantage? For an extra $700 (or less if you get one of Apple's refurbished) you get the large display AND an extra render machine (if you're in need of one of course), or a media server, or whatever else you can think to do with an extra mac!

But back to my question - does anyone know if they are in fact identical?
Thanks.
 
Simple. Because everyone cries about wanting matte and the companies don't wait to listen to it ;)

Seriously though, all jokes and bickering and such aside. Try working off of a glossy calibrated monitor (a good one, not the cheap glossys HP used to put out) and a matte and high end printer, make sure all are calibrated and then print. I guarantee you will start to see why glossy is better. Every single person I know, myself included has switched to glossy after doing this.

Done it, matte still looks more true compared to paper.

/thread.
 
Let me guess... you're printing to glossy paper, right? :)

No, seriously, I like the glossy ones too.

Lol I actually print more matte but I will print glossy too. I've taken a keen interest in metallic as of late though and really really like the results I have been getting. (Although my wallet does not like my interest in metallic papers :eek:)
 
So what do you do with that extra MagSafe cord coming out of the Cinema Display? If you connect the screen to a Mac Pro or Mac Mini, does the MagSafe just dangle there unused? I find that sort of stupid!
 
sorry for the crappy pics, and not setting everything up. But here it is. I'm really liking it for movies, and youtube, etc. It's a little bright & hard on the eyes when it comes to reading. I think I just need to get used to it.

And this is my trouble with glossy.

I am not concerned with color accuracy myself. But I do an awful lot of reading and writing on the computer. Glossy is fine for Media consumption - bad for getting work done.
 

What about warranty? You have to take Apple Care!!!
What about more Display Inputs or an ergonomic stand?

What about 102% color gamut (based on the CIE 1931 standard) compared to 72% (Apple Cinema Display)
-> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2922

REVIEW: Dell U2711 - http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2010/review-dell-u2711.html
 
I'm not exactly sure why anyone "needs" a color accurate monitor. Let's say you edit feature films. Remember that your films will be viewed by consumers... on their uncalibrated glossy monitors. If you're a photographer who prints to glossy paper, your work will again be viewed by the untrained eye of the consumer. So really, the weak link is not the monitor, or the camera, or the printer, but the consumer.

And to the people who think glossy is more color accurate, remember that any ambient light will wash the colors out, and that the light from the display is refracted as it passes through the glass :rolleyes:
 
And this is my trouble with glossy.

I am not concerned with color accuracy myself. But I do an awful lot of reading and writing on the computer. Glossy is fine for Media consumption - bad for getting work done.

Quite how Apple have the nerve to sell a 'mirror' for 900 quid is beyond me. Steve really does believe in 'our consumers love glossy screens'. More like the outrageous profit levels.
 
Damn,
I hope Apple will bring back the 30" or larger a bit down the road. As a graphic professional I cannot express how nice is to work on such a display. Specially with a matte screen.

This. I'm not even particularly worried about it having a gloss screen (after all, in 1998 my Radius 21" CRT had a glass screen and that was considered 'pro'), but I do like the real estate.
 
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