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3d Interfaces for Leopard?

It's good news, but I am perfectly happy with Tiger and wont upgrade to Leopard until its stable (looking at you, 10.4.0). Having said that, Leopard will blow away Vista, I have no doubt about that.
 
I voted negative on this article, I believe my first neg vote ever.

"The article is self-described as "wild speculation" "

This article is just wild speculation, it basically sounds like pure guessing. If this was a page 2 report it'd be fine, but there's nothing to see here folks, move along.
 
mrrory said:
Sweet! I never knew you could do that! I'm a long time (16+ years) heavy mac user and I still enjoy discovering new things like that! Recently discovered holding down CTL+ Scrolling with the mighty mouse...

As for this thread, I find the most interesting comments to be those relating to how a significant upgrade will affect existing hardware. When I upgraded from Panther to Tiger, my G3 iBook 800Mhz, and PowerBook 1Ghz heated up dramatically, and appeared to lose a little "zip." If upgrading to Leopard similarly challenges my 2Ghz G5 iMac it would be a little frustrating that this, to some extent, would be forcing an upgrade of my hardware too. I also have a 2Ghz Core Duo iMac, and several Core 2 Duo iMacs, so it will be interesting to see how the upgrades compare. Alas, I think my PowerBook will have to remain a Tiger unless I can find some asbestos chaps!
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hmmm... when i upgraded to tiger from panther on my 1ghz ibook, it was slower for 3 months then 10.4.3 came and it was very like purchasing ram and a faster hd... the computer ran faster
 
CoreWeb said:
I thought so too. Maybe someone can find a way to invert all pictures? Eh... maybe not. Finder looks like a creepy weirdo though. You can also see a white iPhone. Unfortunately screenshots of it don't work as it is still taking them non-inverted...
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Huh. White iPhone actually looks kinda cool...
 
shigzeo said:
but i fail to see what is so hoho about vista. the transparencies are done perfect microsoft style - the the effect that they are hard to read and not done to frugality, but overblown. there is nothing that is needed or even that great about aero or whatever. what explorer does better than finder is that you can from save dialogues access any disk, rename, edit, copy transfer files, rename files and folders and then if you want - save a file. finder is very limited in its access to very basic osx functions.

they need to beef up not just the look of finder (though i do not mind it at all) but give it functionality and i would never have to download 3rd party apps to get it to be a friendly as windows explorer.
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This, imo, has to do with open and save dialog boxes in OS X doing what they're supposed to. In other words, I feel that Windows is doing it wrong. I has nothing to do with the Finder or Explorer. It has to do with the functionality of default dialog boxes. If you want to move files around, why would you open your save dialog box?

All of that being said, if it works for you, more power to you. I just don't see that it makes sense, and I like the way that Apple has, in general, made a point of creating an operating system that makes sense.
 
Are you sure?

CoreWeb said:
Aero already looks like an immature... something. Actually, it seems to be Microsoft's philosophy overall; they seem to be into the "yeah, cool dude" style (Try to imagine someone saying it in a somewhat spaced-out and dumb manner). That style is quickly fading, in my opinion - it is too... immature, really.
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I agree, Aero looks cool, but isn't extremely useful. However, aero is just as theme - the fact that 3D graphics are built into Windows is the important thing. Check out wikipedia for more information.

To me, Vista (however slow it is) is a step towards revamping the UI. The important thing is, it will be easy to change as people think of creative ways to exploit 3D. I'm sure a year from now there'll be really cool things you can do with either Apple or MS's 3D interface and I'm sure there will be all sorts of copying going on.

As always - I love the mac for what it does well, and I love the PC for what it does well. I'm a pacifist in the OS wars...
 
surferfromuk said:
I am willing to be 'pleasantly surprised' but I don't see the kind of total revolution people are expecting to come in 10.5 unless somewhere Apple have their own Xerox Parc thing going on that we don't know about. Maybe an OSX 11 perhaps...but a 10.5 ?.
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it's so nice to see some people with realistic expectations.
 
I just hope they do this tastefully (if they do it at all). My mind keeps going back to the <blink> tag of the 1980s. Aggghhhh!

The last thing I need is my desktop rolling and flashing at me like an ad-infested web page.
 
Yea, but, the Finder is Carbon to its core, and the UI doesn't use Cocoa Nibs, so I'm not sure how this is gonna pan out...
 
the people that believe Apple will introduce Core Animation and NOT actually use it in the Leopard UI are delusional... It will be implemented as much as possible. This is the first Core architechure that can have a large impact on the UI. They will not wait until OS 11 to change the UI. I think they will not only try to get a unified look within the OS, but hopefully a unified look between devices, as well.
 
motulist said:
Um, the blink tag is an html element, and html wasn't really even used until the 1990's. I think your history is off by a decade.
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Yup - you're right! I've been programmer since well before HTML, and when you get old like me - it all runs together.

:D

Since then I looked it up on Wikipedia to see the actual date of inclusion, I didn't find that, but I love this line:
"the only correct use of blink tags is to write the sentence: Schrödinger's cat is <blink>not</blink> dead".

That is way too funny.
 
Nicely spotted 'Coreweb', this could be what Leopard drop down menus look like. I hope it is cause I don't like Aqua myself:



Current OS X drop down;..........................................iPhone drop down (possibly in Leopard);

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Much simpler and sleeker looking IMO.
 
motulist said:
I voted negative on this article, I believe my first neg vote ever.

"The article is self-described as "wild speculation" "

This article is just wild speculation, it basically sounds like pure guessing. If this was a page 2 report it'd be fine, but there's nothing to see here folks, move along.
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It's not only wild speculation, it's also probably the least factual article I ever read over at Ars.

Even the author's understanding of the core technologies is flawed.

Of course, I'm not saying a new UI isn't likely. It is. And OS X already has a lot of 3d cues, so I imagine they will be adding more as more people have the requisite GPUs now. But it won't be like that 3-d OS in Jurassic Park or the Looking Glass concept. It will be the same basic metaphors, overlaid with more 3d cues.
 
The number of posters here who clearly have not read the original ArsTechnica post is amazing. The blog article is a load of crap and was obviously written by someone who has no idea what garbage collection is and what it's used for.

All the positive comments and 'Yay this is so kewl' posters should really take a minute to think about what they're talking about before they put finger to keyboard.

:rolleyes:
 
Evangelion said:
We have had Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Tiger and Leopard. Still to be used:

- Lion
- Cougar
- Lynx
- Bobcat
- Sabretooth

If you want some less well-known species:

- Caraca
- Ocelot
- Serval
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This got me thinking.... anyone know the history of WWII German tank names? I know it went something like Panther, Tiger, Leopard. Is that right? And were there others before/after?

I should know this but do not. It'd be a weird "coincidence" no?:eek:
 
brianus said:
At the current rate, maybe:

10.6 (cougar?) - 2009
10.7 (lynx?) - 2011
10.8 (lion?) - 2013
10.9 (puddy tat?) - 2015
11.0 - 2017

(and yes, nerds, of course they could do a 10.10, but you know they won't, so shaddup :rolleyes: )
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Ahh, this is why I joined. But, anyway, a 3D OS on a 2D screen is 2D. It's a tool to get work done, music listened to, photos filed, tweaked and printed, videos produced. Until the hologram replaces the screen, I suggest feet remain on the sod.
 
brianus said:
Apple has said they expect OS X to form the basis of their products for up to 20 years. I don't think they'll wait till 2021 to replace it, but it certainly won't be any time soon. And the replacement will not be called "OS 11" or "OS XI" (it may have the 11.x version number, but that won't be the product name).

At the current rate, maybe:

10.6 (cougar?) - 2009
10.7 (lynx?) - 2011
10.8 (lion?) - 2013
10.9 (puddy tat?) - 2015
11.0 - 2017

(and yes, nerds, of course they could do a 10.10, but you know they won't, so shaddup :rolleyes: )
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In 2021 they'll integrate automated weather forecasting (to avoid freak tornadoes and class-VI storms triggered by global warming), a bug-detection system (to find hidden government listening devices), Geiger counter (to detect radioactive fallout from all the dirty bombs) water tester (to find potable water) and a bullet-proof sheath.

For real.

Read the other news.

2021! HA!
 
Yes i think this is the end of the jelly beans and all this childishjelly stuff. Ive had enough of these stupid blue scroll bars. bring on the grey
 
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