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Worst thing about this loss is that Haptic Touch (and now 3D Touch) doesn't allow you to quickly slide your finger up or down on, without lifting it from, the glass to select menu options.
 
I never liked 3D touch, I'm not going to press everything trying to find what I can and can't 3D touch. Most intuitive feature ever. Never bothered adding it to any of my apps either

I think you meant 'least intuitive feature'. Anyway, I agree with you. For a company that has resisted adding a second mouse button for decades (for fear of over-complicating things for the user!), I find it absurd that they should match pressure sensitivity to completely different (and frequently unexpected) actions. It's the first thing I turn off when configuring a Mac with a touchpad.
 
Oh good it was a gimmick anyway. Had it disabled since it Came out
Well, not wanting or needing it and not really caring about it doesn't make it a gimmick.
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It can be achieved by long pressing the spacebar in XR
Can't really do text selection with one finger/hand with Taptic Touch when you are in that cursor mode. Plus when you start out on the spacebar at the bottom and need to move the cursor down you are kind of in a weird position where you can't quite do it.
 
There are a number of places where long press and 3D Touch currently do different things.

For example, 3D Touch an image or link in safari and you’ll be able to “peek” it. Long press and you’ll get a menu of options (including, eg, viewing the alt text of an image).

I wonder what Apple will do in these cases. I also wonder if gestures like force touching the side of the screen to launch the app switcher will be preserved. I can see why Apple is making this move, but I’d gotten used to 3D Touch, so will miss it.
 
There are a number of places where long press and 3D Touch currently do different things.

For example, 3D Touch an image or link in safari and you’ll be able to “peek” it. Long press and you’ll get a menu of options (including, eg, viewing the alt text of an image).

I wonder what Apple will do in these cases. I also wonder if gestures like force touching the side of the screen to launch the app switcher will be preserved. I can see why Apple is making this move, but I’d gotten used to 3D Touch, so will miss it.
IMHO, Apple should functionally replace everything 3D Touch does with Haptic Touch using a combination of long press and gestures. I never used the app switcher on my 7 Plus and 6S Plus but I used 3D Touch all of the time. It’s the main feature missed coming to the XR so the expansion of Haptic Touch is really welcomed for me.
 
It sounded cool when it first came out with the iPhone 6S. But really, to hype up a feature with 3D in its name that only works on a flat 2D surface is delusional. Unless we can finally display something in a real 3D, we shouldn’t talk about 3D touch.
 
This is great news for me as an XR user. It’s not quite as quick as 3D Touch but it’s close. And it functions exactly the same way. Maybe because Apple is committing to Haptic Touch across the board the experience is even further improved with even better feedback.

Agreed, but for the love of God I wish I could get rid of the flashlight option on the lock screen since I accidentally activate it all the time with a "long press" of any part of a finger trying to put the phone in my center condole (deep and narrow).
 
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When the iPhone SE was introduced in March 2016, 6 months after the new iPhone 6s, we got the Live Photos works on the SE with LONG-PRESS. That ****ing long-press. As well as the iPad Pro 9.7-inch, which also supports live photos that the 12.9-inch one doesn't have. I was like really? So long-pressing can somehow replace 3D Touch?

Then, the iOS 12 keyboard cursor gesture. Then, the iPhone XR. And then, iOS 13 and iPadOS 13.

I knew it.

Well, yes, adding these features for non-3D Touch devices are totally fine. I have an iPad Pro and I want those features too, even they need long-press.

However - I've been using 3D Touch since iPhone 6s. It's still convenient and faster than long-press. But 3D Touch SHOULD be kept in the flagship models for iPhone. You shouldn't ditch a technology that you guys have been working on for years, and you shouldn't make some users mad - not all users, I meant SOME of them.

Also, having 3D Touch on flagship iPhone models could make these models more competitive than regular models.

Plus, they should not remove 3D Touch for the current compatible models by just stupidly blocking this feature on iOS 13. The UX is now worse. JUST WORSE.

Maybe Apple is trying to unify the experience on iPhone and iPad, but not everyone has both devices. Again, SOME of them.

You can't make everyone happy, so there's no need to get rid of something that is useful for SOME users.

And I was just talking about the interaction with UI. You can even do more by using 3D Touch - like making strokes with different thickness when you are drawing using the Notes App or using Chinese handwriting keyboard (well, you can do that by using the Apple Pencil on an iPad). Also, some games support 3D Touch, too.

You don't allow us to downgrade the iOS, it's fine. How can you explain that you are downgrading your hardware???
 
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I think Apple won't stop anyone from pressing extra hard on the screen.

Except that they did with iOS13 Beta 1

On home screen there's no point for 3D Touch.
It's now using Haptic Touch instead. I know because no matter how quick and deep I pressed, it took as long as the normal haptic touch.
 
Except that they did with iOS13 Beta 1

On home screen there's no point for 3D Touch.
It's now using Haptic Touch instead. I know because no matter how quick and deep I pressed, it took as long as the normal haptic touch.
Does it still have the 3D touch configuration settings under Accessibility?
 
It sounded cool when it first came out with the iPhone 6S. But really, to hype up a feature with 3D in its name that only works on a flat 2D surface is delusional. Unless we can finally display something in a real 3D, we shouldn’t talk about 3D touch.
That's not what the 3D was in relation to.
 
What if you push and hold for the peek, then swipe up to pop? There’s certainly software based workarounds.

Can be a possibility.
There is already a swipe gesture to bring up an action sheet while you're on Peek, they can use the same or have something different.
The problem is always discoverability and giving the user the fastest and easiest way to interact with the feature.
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You know what’s strange? Some of my third-party applications are no longer supporting 3D Touch that have in the past, and this is all been recent changes before the WWDC event yesterday. I primarily use 3D Touch on more third-party applications than I do through the core functionality apps on the iPhone. So it seems developers are already abandoning 3D Touch support in favor of expecting that it wouldn’t be supported through iOS 13 if true.

I don't use 3D Touch a lot so even if a third party app cuts support chances are I wouldn't even notice.
As a developer I never implemented 3D Touch, not because I wasn't a fan of the technology but because my main focus has been the iPad for years, so implementing a new feature only for the iPhone wasn't a priority.
After they announced the Xr without 3D Touch support it was obvious that feature wasn't going to stay. I'm sorry for the force touch lovers, it is always a pity when a feature is removed, let's hope they can do something cool with haptic touch so we'll have a similar set of features without the burden of hardware support for force pressing on the display
 
For cursor and text selection controls, 3D Touch is utterly abysmal. It’s inconsistent and buggy as hell. Everything else it does can be done with long-press, which is more intuitive and easier for most people to handle. The only loss here is in music apps that used pressure for expression, which are few and far between.
 
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So does this mean whenever I hold my finger to long it’s going to make the phone do something I might not want it to do?
 
good riddance. on my X and XS, 3 touch didnt work half the time, causing me to hard press twice. i actually like long pressing on my ipads more anyway so this is fine
 
This could be a way for Apple to cut costs and pocket more cash or the fact most people don't use it, except a vocal minority on macrumors.
 
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What’s happens to the current long-press functionality?

Long-press always had a separate function from 3D Touch. 3D Touch is also very intuitive to use. Removing it is kinda stupid in itself but also because long-press already had a different function.
 
Compared to 3D Touch implementation, it’s trash. No other way around it.
Your opinion. No other way around that either. You haven’t even used iOS 13 with the feature. I used my wife’s 7 Plus yesterday and 3D Touch has either been slowed down or is negligibly quicker than Haptic Touch. Not as flexible as 3D Touch, but close enough to replace 3D Touch.
 
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