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3G iPhone Already Ordered By Apple?
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Um.. what? 3.5G is the current widely used generation supported by many operators and e.g. Nokia smart phones. 3G is the last generation and 2.5G old basic technology. You can get 2.5G Nokia phones for USD100 and that's even with the lousy dollar value.
Don't get me wrong: I am as much as an Apple fanboy as they next guy here, but there is no reason to let ourselves be fooled into thinking Apple is even near the edge of mobile trasmitting techologies.
To anyone planning on whining that they paid a bunch of money for an EDGE iPhone and now 3G looks like it's coming... let me preemptively introduce you to the time value of money.
I clicked that link and it sucked! I want 10 seconds of life back!!!
Still, shows just how diverse the 'pedia has become I guess.
3.5G is just a hookie marketing term for a slightly faster specs on 3G. You haven't made any specifications on the actual technologies being used by the manufacturers.
You also haven't considered the coverage from carriers. It doesn't matter what tech is in a phone if the carrier isn't supporting it. EDGE and GPRS more widely adopted than any 3G technologies.
It really makes no sense to want Apple to include something something that is costly, sucks battery, increases the size, and can't be used in 99.9% of the markets.
Apple is putting 3G on the iphone so they can launch them in asia.
In some parts of asia the only way the iphone can work is if it is 3G
I know for a fact that if the iphone launches in japan(I live there) It has to be 3G because we have different frequencies here than the ones in the US
so i dont think it will make too much of a differenc in japan.. except for the firmware update.. of course
In some parts of asia the only way the iphone can work is if it is 3G
I know for a fact that if the iphone launches in japan(I live there) It has to be 3G because we have different frequencies here than the ones in the US
so i dont think it will make too much of a differenc in japan.. except for the firmware update.. of course
I'm waiting on 3g
I love the current iPhone, all that was missing for me to buy one is a bit more space and 3g. So if a 32G iPhone with 3G is coming out I am on board. I am guessing they are just popping the 3G chip in with a bigger hard drive/ I am not sure about OLED, and that would probably be the reason why no one heard anything FCC wise. It's be like throwing in a new hard drive for the 16 GB model, not really a new phone just new improvements.
Maybe?
399.99 16GB with EDGE
499.99 32GB with 3G
I love the current iPhone, all that was missing for me to buy one is a bit more space and 3g. So if a 32G iPhone with 3G is coming out I am on board. I am guessing they are just popping the 3G chip in with a bigger hard drive/ I am not sure about OLED, and that would probably be the reason why no one heard anything FCC wise. It's be like throwing in a new hard drive for the 16 GB model, not really a new phone just new improvements.
Maybe?
399.99 16GB with EDGE
499.99 32GB with 3G
You are correct. Just like 2.5G are faster specs on 2G. That doesn't seem to bother anyone though.
May I point you towards Wikipedia where lies a list containing dozens of 3G/3.5G carriers worldwide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_HSDPA_networks
By the way, you are right 2G technologies are more widespread today. Just like telephones are globally more widespread than broadband, so Apple should just focus on the 56kbps modem markets!
Just like it really makes no sense for fanboys to celebrate 3G as a "next generation" technology just because Apple cannot make the leading mobile edge (yet). That was the point of my original post.
And by the way, that "99.9% of the markets" remark is just silly talk and you know it. Surely that may be correct if you consider the entire geography of the Earth (incl. Antarctica), but not the markets where the money and the people are.
EDGE is a big jump compared to the original GSM or GPRS, not just in terms of speed, but also in terms of technological requirements to implement. Whatever you call 3.5G is just a comparatively simple add-on to WCDMA (3G), a term I have never heard in engineering circles.
Ordering 10 million is a safe bet, they'll sell those easily once the thing has 3G....provided contracts stay the same, or improve.
Well in Asia and here in Europe 3G is far more widespread than EDGE. In the UK, O2 pretty much skipped EDGE and went straight to 3G as they invested billions (literally silly money) in the licenses to use the airwaves.
So I guess for O2 a 3G iPhone can't come quick enough, the coverage for 3G here in my experience is excellent and only getting better. It seems only the US is tailing behind, you guys seem to get the 'latest' handsets behind everyone else and as other posters have said, 3G really is old news in the wider world as Asia and Europe have been using it for 2 years or more.
Too bad Apple see things through the eyes of the American market, except for setting international prices of course, but that's another thread in itself.
I hope this is true! I'm holding out for a 3G iPhone for the data rates. I need it to come out sooner rather than later so that I don't crack beforehand!!!
Current O2 3G coverage (dark blue is 3G, it's not that good. HSDPA coverage is dismal - check O2's site):
That said I'd like to see 3G soon, however I don't believe this report. I say November. As I say, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Fcc?
Who cares about the FCC in Australia or Asia or anywhere else in the world.
US mobile phone technology is about 5 years (at least) behind the rest of the world.
... with the exception of the iPhone.... (inserts sad face icon here, if I knew how)
Who cares about the FCC in Australia or Asia or anywhere else in the world.
US mobile phone technology is about 5 years (at least) behind the rest of the world.
... with the exception of the iPhone.... (inserts sad face icon here, if I knew how)
mega pixels wont make it a true alternative for a proper digital camera
Current O2 3G coverage (dark blue is 3G, it's not that good. HSDPA coverage is dismal - check O2's site):
That said I'd like to see 3G soon, however I don't believe this report. I say November. As I say, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
I think T-mobiles network on 3g is superior to o2
roflmao, original 3g speeds are less then 1mbit HSDPA speeds in the uk will be 3.6Mbits by the end of the year.
Edge Blows
Current O2 3G coverage (dark blue is 3G, it's not that good. HSDPA coverage is dismal - check O2's site):
That said I'd like to see 3G soon, however I don't believe this report. I say November. As I say, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
That's why I said in my experience, I am hardly ever without 3G coverage and EDGE coverage in the UK is worse than 3G and more flaky. HSDPA is not necessarily what we are talking about here with 3G, I guess it depends on the direction Apple want to go as to which system they want to use as the primary system, personally I like Orange's way of doing it, basically giving you the best available speed based on where you are. I hate the stupid animal tariffs though.
You should care because you are NOT getting the (new) iPhone until it receives FCC approval. Apple is not going to sell a 3G iPhone outside the U.S. first. It will either be a simultaneous or U.S. first release.
My guess:
1. (Maybe) Special Event on April Fools' Day.
2. New iPhone available in US in 2 weeks and available in Europe at the end of april. FFC approval takes about 2 weeks, not 6 months!
3. New Model costs 499$. Older models get sold out (if they are not already) for a 100 bucks less than their current price.
1. (Maybe) Special Event on April Fools' Day.
2. New iPhone available in US in 2 weeks and available in Europe at the end of april. FFC approval takes about 2 weeks, not 6 months!
3. New Model costs 499$. Older models get sold out (if they are not already) for a 100 bucks less than their current price.
So Why does Kevin get a mention, when he's just freeloading off other more legitimate rumours?
Anyhow, my 2 cents is this is on target - the OLED is very useful (less powe usage, brighter, better viewing angle all round, better for video (better refresh rate) etc. Even if it was to put an OLED on the back.
Anyhow - happy to see Ken finally getting back after the Enterprise U turn recently. It's already beeen put that June is looking a good bet (it might not be a worldwide roll out, but in stages)
Anyhow, my 2 cents is this is on target - the OLED is very useful (less powe usage, brighter, better viewing angle all round, better for video (better refresh rate) etc. Even if it was to put an OLED on the back.
Anyhow - happy to see Ken finally getting back after the Enterprise U turn recently. It's already beeen put that June is looking a good bet (it might not be a worldwide roll out, but in stages)
Yeh i think there will be a special event next week but i dont think it will have to do with the iphone!!
In addition i am almost 100% sure that the new iphones will come in june and not anytime sooner.
I think this is true because the iphone is suppoesed to launch in june in japan and 2.0 comes out in june so this 3G update and the iphone updates will come out prob during WWDC and not any sooner:
But i think next week-I hope-it will be an imac and mac mini update!!