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3G iPhone Already Ordered By Apple?

puckhead193 said:
Wirelessly posted (my blackberry pearl: BlackBerry8130/4.3.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

Thank you sweet Jesus! I'm going to miss my pearl though... But not too much!
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Myself as well. The old BlackBerry has been great, but unless they release their 9000 series, and it seriously kicks ass, I can't see how I'll be able to pass up the next gen' iPhone. My T-Mobile contract is up in September. Pretty good timing ;)
 
Cooknn said:
Myself as well. The old BlackBerry has been great, but unless they release their 9000 series, and it seriously kicks ass, I can't see how I'll be able to pass up the next gen' iPhone. My T-Mobile contract is up in September. Pretty good timing ;)
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I've already been told by my corporate AT&T account rep that the Crackberry 3G model is coming out June-ish. If Apple really wants to compete with RIM, they shouldn't be too far behind.

That being said, only one Blackberry model is coming out with 3G. The others (being the Curve and the Pearl) will likely stay with EDGE for a while after that.
 
um i think i'll wait until 10g is out, iphone version 25. i heard it might have a teleport option.


yea im waiting for the 3g version. sucks for those with the good old edge. but hey, someone has to get screwed, right?
 
If the 3G version has at least the same battery life, it would be very tempting.

What would one do with his/her current AT&T iPhone? Just remove the SIM on the old iPhone and plug it into the new 3G iPhone?

Regards,
 
I would get it!!!
The reason why I didn't buy the current iphone is because it's not in 3G platform!

Would really love an iphone ISIGHT infront of my device =)
 
AT&T has good 3G coverage in NYC, so I'll probably jump on this phone when it comes out.

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Bad Paper said:
You realize that you're talking about a company with fifteen billion dollars in the bank, right?
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The cost of the phone, not the cost to apple. No one's going to buy a $1500 phone, which is probably the order of what an OLED iPhone would have to cost (extrapolating from the cost of OLED lcd's and the current price.)

Dave
 
If the 3G has some 'bonus' goodies, looks like my gf will totally get my 16GB. :) I'd need OLED, maybe a front-side cam for video chat, etc. If it's just capacity and 3G network, I'd have to pass. :)
 
MattInOz said:
I'd suspect if they are ordering 10Mill iPhones it's not all the be deliveried on the same day, sounds like a one year supply, to allow manufactures to lock in their supply contracts as well.

Contract of that would include a few samples for testing and q&a.
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Agreed. This is typically how supplier contracts are structured, it locks in the quantity at a particular price and there is probably a provision that allows Apple to expand the quantity. This is probably a minimum must take #.
 
For Apple to release a 3G model they have to put it through FCC testing, based on last years testing that appeared to take 6 to 8 weeks. Pretty sure Jobs over estimated when he said a few months. From the articles put together by wired, they were busy just getting the software in a fit state during those 5 months between announcing and release.

Apple knew they needed to pre-announce as the FCC would've done it for them. They will pre-announce again, but i suspect the window will be much shorter. All the hardware required for a 3G model started shipping this quarter, if they've been working with samples from late last year, i would say the hardware is close to being ready. As we've seen during the recent SDK press release, the v2.0 software is pretty far on as well, though there could be hardware specific bits to finish for a 3G phone.

I would estimate a 'special event' in the April to pre-announce with a release late June. That leaves only 2 months of downturn in iPhone v1.0 sales. I doubt there will be any connection with WWDC at the start of the month except for SDK details and initial launch of the App store.

It'll be US only at first with European's getting the 3G phone slightly later. Don't think they'll wait til Nov considering the poor performance of European sales. The reason for the delay is simply due to Apple not having the resources to qualify the new version with each geographic network. As the US is still their biggest market, they'll get it first.

Now to veer off at a tangent, i fully suspect iPhone v1.0 to reappear in Oct/Nov in a new set of duds, rebranded iPhone Nano, Mini, Tiny, ForTheMasses. This will be to begin the mass market drive for iPhone and capture the Chrimbo silly season. NB i'm saying start, i don't mean the iPhone whatever will be a mass market price yet.

ie.
iPhone v2.0 16GB $499 / £329
iPhone v2.0 8GB $399 / £269
iPhone v1.0 8GB $299 / £199

Yeah i don't expect we'll get another bump in memory til next year. Not without making it fatter and take more chips. Which is completely at odds with Apple's sense of style.

M.
 
I know what the iPhone needs!!!!

Because the iPhone is a convergence device, I think that it should take my Canon EF lenses and have a 14 MP image sensor. I think that because the iPhone is a convergence device, it should have a 512 GB solid-state disk in it. I think that because the iPhone is a convergence device, it should have built-in speakers made by KEF and come with a set of Etymotic earbuds. I think that because the iPhone is a convergence device it should come with a built-in projector so I can watch my video podcasts on the wall. Where does it end?!?!?!?!

Guys, the iPhone is an excellent piece of engineering. They've made the tough choices about size, battery life and capability, and come up with something remarkable. Will the next ones be better? Sure. But it's not going to be the birthday party where you got everything you ever wanted.

Also, the US is still Apple's primary market, by a significant margin, and those are the customers that Apple needs to please and sell to first. (Just like Nokia's primary customers are European. How come no one comes in here complaining about how Euro-centric Nokia are?) At the moment, "3G" coverage (meaning UMTS) just isn't there in the US. (Note that "3G" CDMA/EVDO coverage is significantly more widespread in the US.) Even if Apple were to make an iPhone that worked with AT&T's UMTS network, it wouldn't work overseas due to the difference in radio frequencies. AT&T have sworn to improve their UMTS coverage across the country, and "3G" may "be there" in 6-9 months.

Steve Jobs has said that a "3G" iPhone is coming, but Apple will not come out and tell us until it's already here. They're not going to cannibalize sales of the existing model. And unless Apple decide to make multiple versions of the iPhone (which they may or may not decide to do, there are no guarantees) the "3G" feature in US iPhones won't work overseas.
 
There seems to be alot of speculation about time required for an FCC evaluation.

It isn't something I know anything about but I read a very good post by somebody who has actually submitted things for FCC approval.

Quoted below - it seems it can be private until after approval is granted.

kdarling said:
I'll start backwards. For many devices, you can go to an outside company, certified by the FCC as their proxy. Unlike the FCC proper, they don't have to say anything right away. In other words, you can get your approval and keep it hidden as long as you want. The moment you want to sell, you have the outside company give the FCC the approved submittal and it becomes public.

However, cell phones are in a special category, and you can give your test paperwork only to the FCC. (Since it can cost tens of thousands of dollars to run tests, you don't do this unless you're pretty darned sure you'll pass.)

At the time of submittal, things are still private. The FCC checks the results, ask privately for any clarification, and you go back and forth like that until they stamp an approval on it. At that moment the approval becomes public knowledge, or at least can be found if someone is watching.

But... you can add a request to keep the parts list, schematic, manuals and any photos (such as the test setup) private for a longer time. I believe it only costs about $300 to do this, but don't quote me on it. You can also request that the schematic and internal details be kept secret forever, so that others cannot make direct copies. Apple does this a lot.

In the case of a privacy request, all you can see are the radio test results. That's enough to know if it's 3G or not, but not much else.

Here's the thing. We all know 3G is coming, so even if one were approved, so what? It wouldn't be a surprise. It wouldn't tell us when it's going on sale, what it looks like, does it have an 800x480 screen, 32GB, keyboard, etc.

So in theory, they could wait until the day of approval and announce it. Or announce it weeks later. But that lacks the showmanship that Jobs likes. So your guess is as good as mine, as to what they'll do. I'm sure there are long time Apple watchers around here who can give us a good guess.
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AlphaAnt said:
I've already been told by my corporate AT&T account rep that the Crackberry 3G model is coming out June-ish. If Apple really wants to compete with RIM, they shouldn't be too far behind.

That being said, only one Blackberry model is coming out with 3G. The others (being the Curve and the Pearl) will likely stay with EDGE for a while after that.
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I also have been reading that the BBs with wifi do not take advantage of the wifi connection very well. Reviewers have been complaining that wifi browsing is no faster than EDGE. The speculation is the AT&T is forcing this crippled wifi on RIM. If true, it goes to show how much negotiating power Apple does have vis-a-vis AT&T (or at least how much Apple is getting back for giving AT&T a long exclusive).
 
sunfast said:
There seems to be alot of speculation about time required for an FCC evaluation.

It isn't something I know anything about but I read a very good post by somebody who has actually submitted things for FCC approval.

Quoted below - it seems it can be private until after approval is granted.
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Thanks for posting that again. Some common sense!

(Thanks to the original poster of that too, obviously).
 
ltldrummerboy said:
I don't think that 64gb is feasible right now, but it's not greedy to ask for it. In any other phone it would be, but the iPhone is a full-blown iPod.
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lazydesi said:
thats a good news
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Hellooo! A 64 GB flash stick already costs you an extra $999 if you want it in the macbook air.

OLED?? do you know how much they wanted to sell the Optimus OLED keyboard for originally? over 1 grand...manufacturing costs were first estimated to be around $500 just because of those stupid OLEDs.

OLED? 64GB? yea right, maybe in 2010. What's next? teleportation by October??
 
what was the time frame on the first iPhone from the first production rumors to the actual release date at macworld 07?

Could we use this information to guess when the 3G will be introduced? Wouldn't the FCC need to approve a device before Apple starts mass producing them?

(sorry if this has been covered... I'm at work and cant spend too much time reading all the back comments...)

Chris
 
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