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3G iPhone and $1500 'Super Laptop' in 2008

humm... no optical drive, no HD, 32ish flash memory, half the thickness of macbook... am i the only one that thinks this "sub notebook" is actually going to be a tablet, not a notebook...

"MacTouch"... ?
 
Darkroom said:
humm... no optical drive, no HD, 32ish flash memory, half the thickness of macbook... am i the only one that thinks this "sub notebook" is actually going to be a tablet, not a notebook...

"MacTouch"... ?
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Here too!! Guess it is more of hoping.. :)

It would make more sense, but I do not know if Apple has worked out all the necessary kinks and penetrated the market enough with the iPhone to release a tablet.
 
12" widescreen, 13" widescreen, or 12" 4:3?

i must admit i've grown to hate my 12" powerbook because it isn't widescreen.
 
please please... let this super notebook be with an optical drive.... I just want back the old powerbook G4.. nothing more nothing less.

With kind regards,
Bas
 
Spades said:
12" is an improvement over 13.3". I'd still prefer 10", but if there's a small enough border around the screen, it'll do.
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I dunno - for me at least, a 15 is on border of being to small for internet browsing and any photoshop work.

12 inch that I saw in the apple store a couple years back was really too small to enjoy internet browsing. I suppose with tabbed browsing you get around, but I eventually have multiple windows open which a 10inch, that your suggesting, just wouldnt work - for me.

But I suppose there may be times it would come in useful - if there were another back up. But I couldnt see paying more then $500 for one. Your getting close to the ipod touch screen for internet browsing...hey, there you go...get an ipod touch, its really small. ;)

Peace

dAlen
 
dAlen said:
12 inch that I saw in the apple store a couple years back was really too small to enjoy internet browsing. I suppose with tabbed browsing you get around, but I eventually have multiple windows open which a 10inch, that your suggesting, just wouldnt work - for me.


dAlen
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12inch works perfect for me. With a lot of pleasure I use my girlfriends Ibook 12" that just have all the screen I need. However I also need an optical drive. Fingers crossed mr. Jobs put it in this new machine...:apple:

With kind regards,
Bas
 
I think its funny...

Do you know what I think is funny? How most of the people complaining about the possibility of ditching the optical drive are students. I know thats not the case for everyone, but it is getting redundant.

They say "How will I burn cds at school?!" Who burns cds at school at all, or even more so, enough to be mad about no optical drive? I just picture some kid standing outside of his class, handing out markered up mix cds or something. Thats what I think is funny. You would still have to carry around a bunch of cds to burn!

"But Clancycoop, I need to share files!" Well my friend, you are in luck, because today we have wonderful technology a whopping $20 away called flash jump drives! You can file share to your hearts content, though you might miss those beautiful hand written titles on your burned cds.

We need a website that is called EXTERNALDRIVESDOEXIST.com for everyone who is crying about the possibility of them going, so that it can convince them of their reality. Wait, wait, let me beat you to it:

"But I don't want to carry around an external drive!"

Here's a simple thought: Burn the CD before you leave the house. Don't wait till you are on the train to install Photoshop, and buy a jump drive. I think that my current optical drive has self esteem issues as I use it once every two months. And the time in between, I wouldn't mind if it was sitting on my desk with a cord sticking out of it, rather than carrying it around.
 
chewbee said:
I don't know if I can wait yet another 5 months, I'm getting obsessed with buying one!
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With buying what?! Wasn't the article about three things, iPhone, iPod Touch, and ultraportable MacBook (or whatever it'll be called)?

I don't know why you couldn't wait five months. What's another five months? Plus there is nothing you can do if you aren't willing to wait. It's not like your unwillingness changes anything.
 
lordgaino said:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....................


.......if you want one then buy one, if you want to wait then wait.... its so boring hearing all this procrastination.

I have an iphone, its amazing, yes it will eventually be superseded, but its the nuts and i know that apple rumours spread like wildfire, and that generally speaking as soon as one device comes out they rumour about a new one. For example the micro-macbook.... thats been rumoured to be imminent for over a year. We are still waiting. How long did we wait for the iphone to come out regardless of rumours, oh yeah the 'google phone'.... appparently imminent but we are still waiting.....
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I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that you don't like waiting for things? That seems like a tricky attitude considering that by their nature rumors are mostly about things that have yet to come out. That means that you have to wait for them. But what's the matter with that?

People, including many of us, discussed iPhone for a long time before it was officially announced and released. And then both of those things happened. What's your point? A similar thing may or may not occur with both of the other products you alluded to. We've been discussing them for a while and most likely they'll be released. I've said it twice, but why not a third time, what's the problem with that dynamic?

I like to think that longer we discuss things the better. Discussing a product for a long time in advance would mean that we're hearing about things that are a long way off (and having to be patient and wait for them, if we choose).
 
Cheffy Dave said:
Apple can't keep everyone happy,somebody,somewhere,will be pissed off at them somewhere. We just have to jump in when we can, and be happy with what we got:cool::confused::apple:
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I couldn't agree more.

Interesting how a consumer personalizes the evolution of a device, how they look at roadmaps.

Leading up to release it can’t happen soon enough, and there is frustration with waiting any longer. Sometimes even a feeling of indignation, which will of course be forgotten once it’s in their hands.

Then version 1 is released and the consumer buys it. They stop paying attention for a little bit, probably just for the device they just acquired (they’ll still read about other rumored products).

Several months on, after the initial stages of their love for the device have subsided, they’re hearing about version 2 (they’ve come back). This time, instead of thinking about it in terms of how cool it’ll be to get a step forward (manifestation of new ideas) or how nice it might be for people who didn’t get version 1, the consumer is frustrated.

They want version 2 to be delayed further. Or they want it to be less cool. Their level of skepticism has increased; the manufacturer will release something with a weird configuration this time, this time it won’t have a market, this time it will be expensive, people won’t like it for some reason.

And, they start telling the world about why they won’t buy version 2. So, in their logic, it won’t make sense for anyone else and it won’t make sense for me.

But once version 2 arrives they can’t resist. The cycle repeats.
 
Clancycoop said:
Do you know what I think is funny? How most of the people complaining about the possibility of ditching the optical drive are students. I know thats not the case for everyone, but it is getting redundant.
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I've used the optical drive on my MacBook exactly 5 times in a year...

1. Test playing a DVD when I bought the thing
2. Read a W2K install disk when creating a VM for Parallels
3. Install iLife 08
4. Install iWork 08
5. Upgrade to Leopard

I've never burnt a CD or DVD on it. All data transfer is courtesy of the network or via a flash memory pen (just retired by 1GB pen for a new 8GB pen). None of the above could not have been done via a data pen or download (4mb cable connection that actually delivers the advertised speed)

All other software upgraded/installs have been via downloading or data pen.

We are getting close to the point where an optical drive is redundant. Not quite there yet. But close. Very close. I expect they will become "optional" peripherals - for laptops at least. Desktop machines don't have the sapce constraints of a notebook - and the things almost cost pennies now (recently, I've seen DVD players that are less expensive than some DVD movies)
 
Darkroom said:
humm... no optical drive, no HD, 32ish flash memory, half the thickness of macbook... am i the only one that thinks this "sub notebook" is actually going to be a tablet, not a notebook...

"MacTouch"... ?
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A tablet would be interesting, but I would rather an ultra-portable notebook.
 
12" widescreen is not a subnotebook.

32GB is a joke - 160GB is the standard on notebooks today.

And in real world testing, flash drives don't make enough of a difference to justify their cost:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=239

Again, they're great for shock resistance, but a MacBook can't take the forces a Toughbook could survive.

winterspan said:
SDD offers no performance advantage? Thats definitely an over-generalization.. A decent SSD is easily faster than a 2.5" 5400RPM HDD and uses >20% less energy. a 2.5" 7200rpm in a subnotebook will be too loud.. too much power draw. Obviously, an SSD will blow away any 1.8" 4200rpm. Not too mention the fact that it will allow a smaller enclosure, better heat dissipation, etc.
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I think most people will be disappointed if it's a 12 inch.

It's WAYYY too small !

You hardly can get under the 13.3 standard without sacrificing work pleasure.

Actually, that's what I thought. The new Penryn Macbooks will see the day in July-September... that sucks.
 
~Shard~ said:
Previous sales #s on the 12" PowerBook from a few years ago might show differently... :p ;)
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Well, i dunno your source, but I never saw anybody in a library or a campus, with something that size. It's definitely business-oriented machine, you have to have a desktop to second that. You can't type for long. If it's for checking mail and sending memos, why not using your phone ???

I'm buying a new Penryn based notebook, 13.3 inch, without an optical drive. That's the minimum I expect from a major company which innovates.
 
Macmanus said:
Well, i dunno your source, but I never saw anybody in a library or a campus, with something that size. It's definitely business-oriented machine, you have to have a desktop to second that. You can't type for long.
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For your information, the 12" PowerBooks were actually quite popular. ;)

metoo6000 said:
It is NOT so true.

Do you have, or have you used 12'' Powerbook ever? :rolleyes:
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I think it's obvious from his statements that he has not. :D
 
Can flash memory go bad, like a hard drive? If so, can it be swapped out? What if larger capacity Flash comes out? Can it be swapped in like larger drive can (I appreciate not in all cases)? And instant boot-up?
 
winterspan said:
512GB?? Hahahah. thats funny. Do you really need more than 32-64GB on a small laptop? What would you need to be on there that an external 2.5" 250GB drive couldn't hold? If USB is too slow, I'm sure Apple will put a Firewire 400 or 800 on there. Maybe an eSata?

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Gene Maping (i'm a biology guy)...
i don't really need the ultraportable...just a small laptop...something like 11" or 12"...using better specs than those of macbook...or just make MBP with smaller screen size. I'm just waiting for apple to include the new penryn cpu to the mbp and then release them in a smaller sized laptop...hence the penryn allows that and even more!
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dazzer21 said:
Can flash memory go bad, like a hard drive? If so, can it be swapped out? What if larger capacity Flash comes out? Can it be swapped in like larger drive can (I appreciate not in all cases)? And instant boot-up?
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Flash memory does have a limited number of read/write cycles, but to what degree I am not sure. I am sure though that the current generation of flash technology is better than its predecessors, as I believe with early flash models you could only read/write a couple thousand times or so. That's great for storage, however not so good for constant the read/writes you see with hard drives.
 
jhedges3 said:
I couldn't agree more.

Interesting how a consumer personalizes the evolution of a device, how they look at roadmaps.

Leading up to release it can’t happen soon enough, and there is frustration with waiting any longer. Sometimes even a feeling of indignation, which will of course be forgotten once it’s in their hands.

Then version 1 is released and the consumer buys it. They stop paying attention for a little bit, probably just for the device they just acquired (they’ll still read about other rumored products).

Several months on, after the initial stages of their love for the device have subsided, they’re hearing about version 2 (they’ve come back). This time, instead of thinking about it in terms of how cool it’ll be to get a step forward (manifestation of new ideas) or how nice it might be for people who didn’t get version 1, the consumer is frustrated.

They want version 2 to be delayed further. Or they want it to be less cool. Their level of skepticism has increased; the manufacturer will release something with a weird configuration this time, this time it won’t have a market, this time it will be expensive, people won’t like it for some reason.

And, they start telling the world about why they won’t buy version 2. So, in their logic, it won’t make sense for anyone else and it won’t make sense for me.

But once version 2 arrives they can’t resist. The cycle repeats.
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:eek:Yeah, what he said,and much better than I:p:apple:
 
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