I can careless for 3G, just increase the damn storage to 16gig and hopefully 32gig.
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3G iPhone Due in 2008
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I want 3G so that iPhones can actually be sold in Finland. It is not legal to implement subscription based sales on anything else but 3G phones.
As several people have said so far, it's really no surprise. And it being no surprise at all, there should be no reason to be upset if you are a recent iPhone purchaser (such as myself). We purchased iPhones with EDGE fully knowing that soon enough there will be 3G phones rollin' out.
I'm perfectly content with Wifi and EDGE. I've run into a few slow spots at times when using EDGE and browsing image intensive pages, but I'm in a WiFi area 75-80% of the time anyway.
And also, I agree completely with those people who were mentioning the Asian markets and 3G compatibility. I'd assume that the 3G iPhone introduction will come in conjunction with or close to the introduction of the iPhone into the Asian marketplace.
im hoping by next year, they mean before or around June 2008, because that is when my T-Mobile contract expires. Does anyone have thoughts on when in 2008 one can expect the 3G iPhone?
Wasn't there some blip in the news a while back when the iPhone was first released that the chip inside has built-in 3G capability? Was this true? If so, might it be a relatively easy firmware/software update to enable it for existing customers? It wouldn't solve the battery concerns unless there was some sort of battery management software added on, I suppose.
Then again, if I know Apple, they'll force everyone to buy a new iPhone to upgrade to 3G.
Anyhow, it wouldn't surprise me if the 3G iPhone was formally announced at MWSF, even if it won't ship for a while. If battery technology really is the limiting factor, surely it will have evolved another generation in the past year.
I'm imagining that the current iPhone's hardware configuration has been fairly static since January of 2007, or even late 2006. 3G might happen faster now that the basic form-factor exists and it's just a matter of select hardware upgradeson the inside, but this is just a guess.
Then again, if I know Apple, they'll force everyone to buy a new iPhone to upgrade to 3G.
Anyhow, it wouldn't surprise me if the 3G iPhone was formally announced at MWSF, even if it won't ship for a while. If battery technology really is the limiting factor, surely it will have evolved another generation in the past year.
I'm imagining that the current iPhone's hardware configuration has been fairly static since January of 2007, or even late 2006. 3G might happen faster now that the basic form-factor exists and it's just a matter of select hardware upgradeson the inside, but this is just a guess.
Have you been reading the threads?
3G is not widespread in the US. The US is MUCH larger than UK or Europe as a whole. Apple was correct in choosing EDGE for THIS market. Your mileage may vary.
3G is not widespread in the US. The US is MUCH larger than UK or Europe as a whole. Apple was correct in choosing EDGE for THIS market. Your mileage may vary.
Last week we drove around quite a bit (~200 miles) in rural PA. I have to say, I was impressed with the coverage AT&T had there—our iPhone was on 4 or 5 bars throughout and everywhere with fast EDGE signal! The data speeds were very good and was using google maps all the way. I am so glad we didn't wait forever for a 3G phone. When it comes, we may pick up a second one—till then, I find the EDGE iPhone incredibly sufficient for our needs. By the time 3G comes, I am sure 3.5G will be in the works. Waiters will keep waiting—while Users, get one and use it now—return it if you don't find it useful to your needs.
Not about the chip and g3 but if so it would be like apple to force people to buy a new phone to allow for them to use G3. Kind of like when they added 2 finger scrolling to their laptop line. The iBooks and the Powerbooks at the time already out there had the hardware to do it. Just apple would not give them to software it needed to allow it (which lead to a lot of people just hacking there ibooks and powerbooks)
I don't know what kind of blazing-fast EDGE you guys are running on, cuz my iPhone data speeds SUCK.
Sure, it's fine for checking stocks and weather, but if I want to check my bank account statement or navigate to an item on Best Buy... good luck. I've waited over a minute for some pages to load, and most don't load for 30 seconds or more.
In fact, I'll try opening up ebay.com right now. I have 3 bars service.
30 seconds in -- nothing
1 minute in -- some graphics appear, most menus can be typed on
1 minute 30 seconds -- more graphics are up, still not fully loaded
1 minute 45 seconds -- basically fully loaded, still loading something
2 minutes -- still loading something, but at this point the site is fully viewable
I don't know about you, but waiting 1 minute to see half a web page (a web page I use quite often) is pretty lame. I can't wait for 3g speeds.
Sure, it's fine for checking stocks and weather, but if I want to check my bank account statement or navigate to an item on Best Buy... good luck. I've waited over a minute for some pages to load, and most don't load for 30 seconds or more.
In fact, I'll try opening up ebay.com right now. I have 3 bars service.
30 seconds in -- nothing
1 minute in -- some graphics appear, most menus can be typed on
1 minute 30 seconds -- more graphics are up, still not fully loaded
1 minute 45 seconds -- basically fully loaded, still loading something
2 minutes -- still loading something, but at this point the site is fully viewable
I don't know about you, but waiting 1 minute to see half a web page (a web page I use quite often) is pretty lame. I can't wait for 3g speeds.
Sometimes it can be an advantage to live in a country where the launch of the first gen iPhone isn't even planned yet!The prices may have come down a bit as well then.
No. The people in the countries that currently have the iPhone can choose to buy the current model, the future model, or both.
You, and the other people in countries that don't have the iPhone, have only one choice.
Whatever makes you feel better...
But for some people, the compulsion to buy new Apple stuff almost takes the act out of the sphere of free choice
rare burst of optimism
For you, Lord Patton, the glass isn't even half-full. It's right up to the brim with sparkling champagne.
For you, Lord Patton, the glass isn't even half-full. It's right up to the brim with sparkling champagne.
I am a fan of Apple products, and as a professional musician I would not dream of considering any other operating system for computer-based recording and sequencing. My smartphone that I currently use is a Palm Treo with Sprint service. I've liked Sprint for the (superior?) 3G data speeds and for the United States coverage (though I now understand that it's GSM, not CDMA, which is widely used around the world). I'm happy to hear about Apple's intentions for making the iPhone operate at higher data speeds, and now there's only one thing keeping me from buying a cool new iPhone...
The thing keeping me from an iPhone is the interference that GSM phones produce. From what I've read, I understand that GSM technology transmits voice and media data on short, intense radio frequency pulses. Unfortunately these pulses transfer into equipment such as musical instrument amplifiers and recording equipment circuitry where they become audible. I've heard that recognizable little buzz time and time again in the studio and on stage. In an industry where one needs to be accessible at all times, "just turn your phone off or put it in the next room when you're working" really isn't a suitable answer, but it may be the only answer if I switch to an iPhone.
Does anyone have any helpful insight?
Long time reader, first time poster,
-neil
The thing keeping me from an iPhone is the interference that GSM phones produce. From what I've read, I understand that GSM technology transmits voice and media data on short, intense radio frequency pulses. Unfortunately these pulses transfer into equipment such as musical instrument amplifiers and recording equipment circuitry where they become audible. I've heard that recognizable little buzz time and time again in the studio and on stage. In an industry where one needs to be accessible at all times, "just turn your phone off or put it in the next room when you're working" really isn't a suitable answer, but it may be the only answer if I switch to an iPhone.
Does anyone have any helpful insight?
Long time reader, first time poster,
-neil
I think it's 7,2 Mbit currently actually (at least that what's said in the advertising) but I guess it will double again or something in 2008?
Yeah, just swallow those little marketing bits, Steve throws at you. Yeah, sure, 3G kills battery life. That's why nearly every phone on the planet EXCEPT THE TREMENDOUS iPHONE has horrible battery life.
Honestly, I saw the iPhone in flesh here in Germany. And all I can say is that I'm not impressed. It's an ugly big brick! There are plenty phones on the market, that are equally slim/slimmer, smaller, more sexy and more functional.
Don't get me wrong. I love Apple products. But this bloody phone hype is killing me. If you like it, that's fine with me. But don't act like it's the Jesus Phone.
You maybe in an area where EDGE isn't strong. EDGE speed is not determined by how many bars you have. Unfortunately the iPhone only shows you an "E" as a representation that EDGE is present but does not indicate the strength.
I got the regular eBay page in 1:35
U should probably try iphone.ebay.com, it only took 12 - 15 secs.
Choosing the future model? The model that isn't there yet? Following your logic I am able to choose the model of 2010. And why would anyone care buy both the 'old' and 'new' model? Being just an earthworm, I need some explanation here. Throw me a bone, so to speak
Amen! CDMA iPhone FTW
No kidding! I just went and played with an iPhone. So Amazing!! but GOD ****** I'm never going to switch to AT&T. they have absolutely terrible service in the west, especially where I live (ID/WA border). A 3G/EVDO CMDA phone on Verizon or sprint would be perfect. (yes I hate verizon.. but it has the best service by far). It is such BS that apple pulled this exclusivity crap.
Alas, there is a *small* shred of hope with apple bringing a 3G CDMA iPhone to Japan/South Korea/Brazil or anywhere else that uses CDMA, although I'm not sure what band/frequency those countries use or if their CDMA implementation is different than Verizon/Sprint. Anyone know?
Oh well, I won't switch from Verizon to spotty AT&T no matter what. Please Jobs come out with a CDMA version!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!
No kidding! I just went and played with an iPhone. So Amazing!! but GOD ****** I'm never going to switch to AT&T. they have absolutely terrible service in the west, especially where I live (ID/WA border). A 3G/EVDO CMDA phone on Verizon or sprint would be perfect. (yes I hate verizon.. but it has the best service by far). It is such BS that apple pulled this exclusivity crap.
Alas, there is a *small* shred of hope with apple bringing a 3G CDMA iPhone to Japan/South Korea/Brazil or anywhere else that uses CDMA, although I'm not sure what band/frequency those countries use or if their CDMA implementation is different than Verizon/Sprint. Anyone know?
I bet you do!
Do you mean no 3G within 100 miles or no *AT&T/HSDPA* 3G within 100 miles? Unless you are in the middle of BFE, I bet you have access to Verizon EVDO 3G. I live in rural/suburban ID and we have great 3G coverage.
Do you mean no 3G within 100 miles or no *AT&T/HSDPA* 3G within 100 miles? Unless you are in the middle of BFE, I bet you have access to Verizon EVDO 3G. I live in rural/suburban ID and we have great 3G coverage.
