3G iPhone In Bidding?

[Ultimatetone]

Also, 3G isn't that widespread in rural areas, so, for me and millions of others, who cares...

Cities Supporting AT&T 3G/Mobile Broadband

Taken from AT&T plans vast 3G expansion in 2008 Wednesday, February 6th -

AT&T said it would rapidly expand its third-generation (3G) cellular data network
over the course of 2008, greatly improving coverage of the relatively fledgling service.
The carrier intends to introduce its HSPA-based Internet access to 80 new cities throughout the year
to include a total of 350 areas. Many if not all of these current and future areas will be upgraded to use
the faster HSUPA (High Speed Upload Packet Access) format, AT&T adds.
Practical speeds for these networks are estimated to range between 600Kbps and 1.4Mbps with downloads
and between 500Kbps and 800Kbps for uploads, enabling video uploads as well as more two-way Internet features.

The rollout is also expected to produce a "clear path" for AT&T as it moves towards even faster 3G with HSPA+
and eventual 4G access using the Long Term Evolution (LTE) standard, according to the company.
LTE is not expected to appear on cellular networks until 2009 at the earliest, leaving HSUPA and HSPA+
as bridge standards for AT&T as well as many other providers.

In Florida -

AT&T plans to invest more than $220 million in the Florida wireless network in 2008 to expand coverage,
with more than 70 new cell sites in Florida this year. The company also plans to roll out its third-generation (3G)
high speed wireless broadband service in Sarasota, Bradenton, Ft. Myers, Naples and Vero Beach by the end of the year.
The 3G service is already in place in the Keys, Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, Stuart, Port St. Lucie, Ft. Pierce,
Melbourne, Gainesville, Daytona Beach, Jacksonville, Cape Canaveral, Clearwater, Coral Springs, Hialeah, Hollywood, Lakeland,
Miramar, Orlando, Pembroke Pines, St. Petersburg, Tampa, and Tallahassee.

Ultimatetone

 

[bpa1093]

This is the same convo, over, and over. the iphone will be announced at WWDC probably, buuuttttt it will not be released in the fall. Why? cause why would they announce it and not release it and take away from sales of the current iPhone. I'm sorry, but I've heard Fall so many times that it angers me. If it IS going to be released in the Fall, we will not know anything about it until the day it is released. Its just not a good bussiness plan. I do think it's coming sooner rather then later too.

Yeah, I agree. I think it will be announced at WWDC and ship a few weeks later. Just picture it... Jobs says something like "We think that you might need a faster phone for these new features...."

 

[zync]

wake me up when the 3rd gen iphones hit.

edge is more than fine for me, I have wifi at home so if I really need to use the internet on my phone (like before class) edge is more than capable.

I still love my iphone and will never use another phone ever again unless apple goes out of business or stops making iphones. if you are waiting for the "2nd gen" to miss some "bugs" your missing out on the best experience and when the third gen comes out I'll get that and laugh at your 2nd gen

And while you're waiting for the 3rd gen probably a year off we'll laugh at your first gen phone. What a stupid argument. This is how updates work on the bleeding edge. Some upgrade and some don't. When you don't you get "laughed at" and when you do you "laugh at others."

Yes, it's great to have the experience now, but to get a 3G phone you'll be spending $998 for two iPhones plus $480 of data, while we'll only spend $499 for the phone and subsequent data costs will still be equal to yours.

I seriously doubt that they'd announce it in June and not release it for sale until September. Why? Because iPhone sales would absolutely plummet immediately following the announcement. Who's going to be an EDGE iPhone with 16 GB of storage when you can wait 2 or 3 months and get a 3G one with 32 GB (probably) for likely the same price and it's based on official product announcements, not speculation?

When was the last time that Apple updated a product and then waited to sell it? Every iMac, MacBook, MBP, Mac Pro, etc update has gone on sale immediately. Every iPod update has gone on sale immediately. The 16 GB iPhone went on sale immediately. Only the iPod Touch and iPhone didn't, which they could afford to do because there wasn't a version of those already out.

I'm on your side on this, but didn't the PowerMac G5 get pre-announced? Then it took forever to ship. Or did it just take forever to ship?

 

[Bloomedis]

But? Apple announced the iPhone in January so it could get FCC approval by June, wouldn't a 3G version have to go though the same hurdles?

Also, 3G isn't that widespread in rural areas, so, for me and millions of others, who cares...

They didn't announce it so they could get it. They just wanted to announce it first, before the FCC did. So you don't really know when they get approval for it.

And by the way, I would think most people who bought the iPhone live in urban areas. So who cares? The tens of millions in cities and towns across the iPhone available world.

 

[m005e]

as Apple have stated they have reinvented the phone I se no reason why they wont "reinvtent" the Mobile Video Chat aswell ...

Im not sure about the US But in Australia, All 3G Phones have a front sided camera where you can make video calls to other 3G phones.. So it is nothing new

 

[BongoBanger]

Im not sure about the US But in Australia, All 3G Phones have a front sided camera where you can make video calls to other 3G phones.. So it is nothing new

Yeah, a lot of smartphones have this. No-one really uses it though.

 

[dopeytree]

billing

I wonder weather your existing contract will allow unlimited 3g data? allowing you to simply take your sim from your old iphone and pop in into the new 3g one?

I hope it comes out in the uk at the same time, that way i can just sell my current one on ebay and get pretty much what i paid for it and but the new 3g one.

 

[Orelhas]

The sim card has nothing to do with the speed or the network your phone transmits! I've had the same sim card for ages (some 10 years) and i used it with 1G, 2G, 2.5G and 3G phones. The sim card only contains data to allow you to connect to your network. The speed of transmition is set by your phone chip and the strength and type of your network. The only way you need another sim is if for some reason they change the design of the sim card and it doesn't fit in the phone (or if they invent some other feature to include in the sim). Anyway, you won't have to change the sim just to get 3G network!

 

[sleepingworker]

The sim card has nothing to do with the speed or the network your phone transmits! I've had the same sim card for ages (some 10 years) and i used it with 1G, 2G, 2.5G and 3G phones. The sim card only contains data to allow you to connect to your network. The speed of transmition is set by your phone chip and the strength and type of your network. The only way you need another sim is if for some reason they change the design of the sim card and it doesn't fit in the phone (or if they invent some other feature to include in the sim). Anyway, you won't have to change the sim just to get 3G network!

Do sim cards have different storage capacities?

 

[Padraig]

The sim card has nothing to do with the speed or the network your phone transmits! I've had the same sim card for ages (some 10 years) and i used it with 1G, 2G, 2.5G and 3G phones. The sim card only contains data to allow you to connect to your network. The speed of transmition is set by your phone chip and the strength and type of your network. The only way you need another sim is if for some reason they change the design of the sim card and it doesn't fit in the phone (or if they invent some other feature to include in the sim). Anyway, you won't have to change the sim just to get 3G network!

This isn't correct. If the sim card is over four years old chances are you will have to get a new one to utilize 3G. Personally I had to replace both my sims when I got my first 3G phones 2 years ago. The primary difference lies in the higher encryption standards of 3G sims.

 

[Orelhas]

Do sim cards have different storage capacities?

They can have. But until now the storage capacity was minimal (at least on the sim cards used by most operators). In the first phones the data (eg: messages and contacts) was stored on the sim. But it had space for 100-300 contacts and 10-20 messages. If you want to know whether there is a sim card with a great storage capacity, i don't know. If there is, i never saw it being used.

This isn't correct. If the sim card is over four years old chances are you will have to get a new one to utilize 3G. Personally I had to replace both my sims when I got my first 3G phones 2 years ago. The primary difference lies in the higher encryption standards of 3G sims.

Like I said I use the same sim card since I got my first phone. It's been roughly 10 years now. Last 2,5 years used a 3G phone, used it for data transfer, modem for the laptop, video call, mms, sms and for what phones were built (talk) and never had problems. The speed i got was allways in the expected range. Not once had trouble because of my sim card (because of the phone is a different story). And another thing: the sim I use is from a company that was bought by Vodafone. I still have the name of that company in my sim. Not even the change of the company made me change my sim (not that it should have)! We can reach a time where I wil have to change the sim card but for 3G (UMTS) there was no need.

 

[millar876]

i don't give a hoot either way about 3g. mainly because I live in the back of beyond and need to drive about 30 miles to find the nearest 3g coverage, and as i Dont work in a £g area either I dont care, hence I hopped into aberdeen (said 30 mile away 3G covered place) and got me a 16GB iPhone with which I am most chuffed.

 

[amacisbetter]

Can't wait 'til June!!!

I wanted to wait until the second generation iPhone came out before I got one. One, I wanted to wait in case there were any glitches or bugs that may effect early adopters and second because I really wanted 3G and third because I still have a contract with Verizon. Come June, see ya Verizon!! The new iPhone is going to be the BEST smart phone in the world by far.

 

[mjfor40]

just ebay your 1st gen iphone and get a little discount. if you time it right, should be able to make some decent money towards the new 2nd gen version

 

[Nik]

just ebay your 1st gen iphone and get a little discount. if you time it right, should be able to make some decent money towards the new 2nd gen version

I don't think it's possible to make profit with the 1st gen iPhone once the 3G model has been announced.
But it is certainly a good idea!

Unfortunately it is impossible in germany, cuz you have to sign a contract BEFORE you can even get your hands on the phone.