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3G iPhone with GPS, Video Conferences, TV?

Peace said:
The vast majority of people that will be using video conferencing surely won't be doing it walking down a street. They will be sitting in an espresso place or some other place that has WIFI so 3G won't come into play for that in most circumstances.

Battery life will be about the same as it is now if you're using WIFI.
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I don't see the reason to do video conferencing in a coffee place. U want to be able to show the other party what u are looking at. Like sightseeing in Miami or Paris or from the top of the Empire State bldg... Or from home talking to your girlfriend and having a naughty video conference... :eek:I think u should have a choice to either use the small front camera or the back one to show people what u see... That is the whole purpose of the video to me. :)
 
Translation:

iPhone coming to Switzerland this summer

Apple's new generation of 3G phone to be sold at Swisscom soon

Only a few more weeks to go...
If everything goes right the Swiss will be able to get their hands on all beautiful, brand new, iPhones in Swisscom stores starting this summer. Apple and Switzerland's number one tele-communications company indeed just signed a deal to collaborate according to a Swisscom Source.

And surprise; the upcoming phone rom the fruity brand has 3G—the new standard for multimedia. Fitted with a more powerful chip, the fashinable device will offer more functionality like video conference, mobile television and GPS. It should start selling in the USA in june.

Rendering the "old" iPhone obsolete
"The new iPhone version will put the first generation, which sold more than 5.5 million times, to shame", according to a specialized analyst who thinks Swisscom's patience for this deal has payed off. "After one year of service in the USA and just a little more than 9 months in Europe, the 'old' iPhone has become obsolete." Measnwhile, telephone operators like T-Mobile in Germany are trying to get rid of the current multimedia swiss army knife, just like AT&T in the US who cut the price in half to $170 (170 swiss francs).

Not to mention that the secret transaction with the California based company is well kept at Swisscom. Spokesperson Christian Neuhaus insists that "nothing has been sealed yet". Same tight-lipp-ness from Apple. "But the clues aren't wrong" an observator adds. The blue giant [translator's note: Swisscom has a blue logo] just launched a mobile television service.

Another clue: Apple has signed an allience with Vodaphone of England. The world's number one in telephony will distribute iPhones in a few ten countries, and above all, will develop content delivery services for Apple's machine. Swisscom who is a partner of the english giant [translator's note: Vodaphone] since 2003 will profit from this. And no one doubts that the 40,000 owners of black market iPones will be seduces by the new offers.

Indeed, who could resist a soccer match live on his 3G phone?
 
Difference between Streamed library-video and Television!

sassenach74 said:
It has to be a sporting event to warrant calling it tv???
eh?
The BBC iplayer is TV...on a mobile device, live or recorded it's still TV....therefore it's mobile tv, care to tell me what it's called otherwise?
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Come on!... There is Streaming and feeds from video-library´s - and then there is television!... Which is programs, movies, sports and the likes SEND TO YOU DIRECTLY AS SCHEDULED ON THE TV-GUIDE. These are clearly different things!

Here in Denmark it´s becoming standart on 3G phones with live tv-feeds from various channels! Therefore an iPhone without this function would be a NO GO here, If you ask me.
 
Peace said:
The vast majority of people that will be using video conferencing surely won't be doing it walking down a street. They will be sitting in an espresso place or some other place that has WIFI so 3G won't come into play for that in most circumstances.

Battery life will be about the same as it is now if you're using WIFI.
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i will most cerntainly be walking down the st like an idiot while video chatting
 
MacFabulous said:
COME ON!... There is Streaming and feeds from video-library´s - and then there is television!... Which is programs, movies, sports and the likes SEND TO YOU DIRECTLY AS SCHEDULED ON IN THE TV-GUIDE. These are clearly different things!

Here in Denmark it´s becoming standart on 3G phones with live tv-feeds from various channels! Therefore an iPhone without this function would be a NO GO here, If you ask me.
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Excuse me, but I'm not arguing that live tv is different to pre-recorded tv, the question was 'is BBC iPlayer mobile tv' answer 'yes'

If you want to go that route, then practically anything on your home tv cannot be considered proper tv as most of it is pre-recorded.
if I watch a re-run of a Simpsons episode on tv, it is exactly the same as watching a re-run of eastenders on the BBC iplayer, one is fed over air one is fed via the net,no?
 
sassenach74 said:
Then it's a good job Apple didn't ask you isn't it
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I don´t understand? Why wouldn´t I wish for something the competition already have? I would of cause wish/ask for a better and more capable iPhone than the competition. And If there is no functionality that let´s me watch my programs live on the iPhone... then Nokia and the likes are winning that particular battle. So of cause Im wishing/asking for this to happen!
 
While the Helio might seem "ahead" thats only on paper, the build quality and user experience is nowhere close to the iPhone. I would gladly take an iPhone with "fewer features" just because of how well integrated everything was as well as the fact that its a smartphone (no helios are smartphones yet) It was almost a chore to use the phone, most functions requiring navigating through several menus, and waiting for the lag on the phone to catch up with my input. Never had that complaint on the iPhone.

Just goes to show you how important software is in addition to the hardware. You could have everything you want in a phone, but if its not implemented right, its useless. Check the helio forums before you buy, all are begging for firmware updates to fix freezes and white screen issues. They all hacked an Opera browser because the one the phone comes with is a joke. (So much for 3G right?)

I could go on, but from my 6 month experience with it, I CANT WAIT until the new iPhone comes out. Heck, if I didn't know a new one was coming out soon, I'd GLADLY go get the current iPhone. :)
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I agree. I didn't really care much for the UI when I played with my friend's phone. But I still think hardware is important. I don't want to wait for someone to write software for what I want to do with the phone, and then risk having to pay for it, especially if phones that include that with the hardware do it for free. Personally, I'm not all that excited about the App Store. I don't use an abundance of apps on my MBP, and I won't need them for my phone. My main reason for getting an iPhone, or something similar, would be so that I don't need to have a bunch of devices. I'd rather have one iPhone that can do everything than a phone, an iPod and my TomTom. The rest is just an added bonus to me, if it comes.
 
kis said:
we've had video conferencing via 3G/UMTS for 2 years here - nobody EVER uses that.
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People keep saying that nobody ever uses the video conferencing on their phones in europe. While this may be true, I believe something like the iPhone with this capability will greatly/exponentially increase the use of video conferencing on phones. Millions of iPhone users will have the capability, the more phones on the market with the capability, the more it will get used. Before the iPod, very few people used mp3 players, then look what happened.
 
number9 said:
Except they aren't free...nothing is free... you pay what, $20 bucks a month for unlimited SMS, correct? So no, they aren't free, you just pay a proportionately smaller amount per message depending on how many you send. Either way, its an additional charge on top of the unlimited data included in the phone plan, so technically it is cheaper to just email them. Besides, you can email other people's cell phones and have them receive them as MMS. While it would be a great feature to have built in, it's not really as dire a need as some people make it out to be.


Ok, off topic rant over.... I would think that the mobile TV thing would be market specific, seeing as it's much more prevalent in Europe than here in the US. ATT, Verizon, and Sprint all offer some sort of mobile TV and it really hasn't caught on. I think it's something you'll see released as a program in the App store in whatever iTunes store applies to that country/market. GPS and 3G at this point are the safest bets for the new iPhone, but you never know.
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The point is I pay for the unlimited texts, just as you pay for unlimited data so even sending e-mail isn't free if you want to go that route. I get unlimited texts because otherwise it would end up costing me a lot more as I've had a number of months in which there were more than 2k texts coming in/going out. So, to me, I'm already getting the value of paying $20 so if you add a functionality on top of that it's, technically, "free." And obviously from your post you don't send or receive that many MMS. If you did you're realize how annoying it is. As for the sending them an e-mail, you'd have to find out the carrier for each one of your friends (a very annoying practice) and then go in and manually create an e-mail address for them and even if you do that it's still no guarantee it'll work (Yes, I've tried and it doesn't always work). Add on top of that I honestly don't know anyone who actually knows their friends actual numbers (pluses and minuses of contact lists), I know my parents # and a few of my friends work numbers but that's it.

Why no love for agreeing with my post about the TV available via the AppStore? ;)
 
sassenach74 said:
Excuse me, but I'm not arguing that live tv is different to pre-recorded tv, the question was 'is BBC iPlayer mobile tv' answer 'yes'

If you want to go that route, then practically anything on your home tv cannot be considered proper tv as most of it is pre-recorded.
if I watch a re-run of a Simpsons episode on tv, it is exactly the same as watching a re-run of eastenders on the BBC iplayer, one is fed over air one is fed via the net,no?
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I did´nt mention anything about pre-recorded content. It can be old Chaplin movies for my sake. I would really like to watch him on my iPhone:). No, what I mean is... What you can watch on your tv in your livingroom RIGHT NOW, is also the feed you should get directly to your (hopefully) iPhone. I say there is a difference between this and the streamed content most providers bring to market. A might go as far as to call some of it internet tv though. But I do´nt have all the right answers:eek::)

Therefore I would´nt call watching content on the AppleTV for watching tv. Now, what OrbLive offers is more like it. That I would call TV regarding your iPhone. What ever my cable is showing at home, I will be able to see on my phone. Any channel i want. Link: http://www.orb.com/en/orblive

Maybe we need a new definition regarding the "library´ish" tv-content out there? It just ain´t regular tv.
 
EagerDragon said:
Be prepared to pay $5.00 an hour for TV.

Anyone with this service, please state what it cost.
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Well - Sprint's $99.99 plan that has unlimited everything includes their SprinTV service. That type of mobile TV is actually quite cheap (relatively speaking)
 
Interesting, Mobile TV is probably the best feature in this rumor, basically all PT operatores (Vodafone, TMN, dunno Optimus) have this feature. Having a bigger screen like the iPhone will be a real treat! :p :D
 
Well, once again, the rumor machine is going wild, and when the real product comes out, even if it is a huge improvement on the current model, everyone will complain about how disappointed they are that it is not what they expected...
 
L3X said:
People have been bangin the battery life and in a sense I can agree to be skeptical.

But, if it does have a GPS then I will most likely use the GPS in the car and therefore will use a car power adapter in order to leave my phone on in GPS mode.

Same with the other functions, TV, etc. The only time I'd be able to sit and watch TV is traveling in a car or something. Give it up people. We're always close to somewhere we can plugin and recharge.

Battery life should be fine. Just don't walk around the city using the GPS all day .
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Ummm... not those of us that do not drive. And have to commute for an hour each way. If I'm walking around all day, hopping off and on buses, I'd like to hope at the end of the day if I get lost I would be able to make it back. Atleast one day's charge. I hope they allow an option for GPS like 3G in case I rather use the current iPhone feature of just triangulation. Cause I'm sure that works just as good. I don't need minute by minute details.
 
Gee4orce said:
>SLAP!<

Wake up man ! MMS is just a way for the networks to charge you the equivalent of several hundred dollars per megabyte. Send photos by email - it's FREE !:rolleyes:
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I have unlimited texts. MMS is free. Everyone I know can get MMS on their phone, but not email. Friends are always sending me MMS's and I have to embarrassingly tell them my phone can't receive it. And their phone can't email it to me.

Seriously, it's ridiculous that I can't send or receive MMS. It's not difficult for Apple to implement.

pixelbart said:
If they can cram so many receivers into an iPhone (WiFi/GSM/3G/GPS/DVB-H), then what is the reason why the MacBook Air only has WiFi?
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You forgot Bluetooth.
 
Gee4orce, did you know that text messages cost a fraction of a penny and that the former CEO of Vodafone once described texting as the purist form of profit ever invented? Its not just MMS... Phone networks/carriers or whatever you want to call them will do anything to rip you off, they are all greedy mother****ers, simple.
 
I want...
-Data tether via Bluetooth
-32GB of space
-better camera (with light, or flash)
-GPS
-Much better battery life (even if it means a thicker device)
-MUCH better speaker phone speakers (this is a big one for me)

Video conferencing is cool... But I'm not dying for it.
Live TV would be very cool... But I'm not dying for it either.

I would say this...

THAT would be the ultimate phone.


Question: How soon can they build in a projector and 1080p?
 
edesignuk said:
It'll be unlocked, I don't think there is any question. How long it will take though, that's anyone's guess.
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It'll be unlocked almost instantly. Actually, I think it already HAS been unlocked. At least, the beta firmware has (it'll be using the new firmware).

The problem is that nobody in the US has a 3G network yet. So unlocking a 3G iPhone won't do you any good if other carriers don't have 3G.
 
GFLPraxis said:
It'll be unlocked almost instantly. Actually, I think it already HAS been unlocked. At least, the beta firmware has (it'll be using the new firmware).

The problem is that nobody in the US has a 3G network yet. So unlocking a 3G iPhone won't do you any good if other carriers don't have 3G.
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:eek: No 3G in the US?!?! We have had it here since 2003! I remember the first 3G phones, I have one, the Motorola A835, as big as a brick, the shape looks like the "banana phone" iPhone spoof from GTA 4 and the battery lasted less than a day! Got it £25 brand new of pay as you go, though!
 
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