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Apple is holding back the pricing because that is going to be the final surprise, or if you will the "Killer App"

Apple is not holding back the plans... ATT is. I seriously doubt the pricing will come-in lower than expected. I suspect the key reasons the plans have not been revealed yet are:

1) keep the hype and speculation going
2) slow down the competitor response

Oh yeah... and those cases are pretty badly designed.
 
Oh, glove compartment would suck - do you have a flip up arm rest? That's where Volvo would put thier wiring, which is a little more convenient...

Dang. that would be better.

Nope. Glove compartment or nothing...

These Belkin / Griffen Tech guys are geniuses at developing add ons and I am sure I am not the only one that does not want to put the iphone in the Glove each time...

Here's hoping...
 
I think the pricing might come in a little lower than other plans, if you still have to sign a 2 year agreement. I think that would make sense since the phone cost isn't subsidized, they should give you some type of benefit for signing a new 2 year agreement. if not I would be a little bummed (but still would probably get one anyway)
 
Oh, glove compartment would suck - do you have a flip up arm rest? That's where Volvo would put thier wiring, which is a little more convenient...

Of course if Garmin or someone made a bluetooth adapter / GPS / Stereo device I would be in heaven.

(have put off buy a GPS because I was hoping someone would make an add on for the iPhone.)
 
I think the pricing might come in a little lower than other plans, if you still have to sign a 2 year agreement. I think that would make sense since the phone cost isn't subsidized, they should give you some type of benefit for signing a new 2 year agreement. if not I would be a little bummed (but still would probably get one anyway)

EXACTLY - normally the plans are inflated to cover the 'loss' they take on the hardware upfront. Of course, this time it will likely stay similarly inflated to pay that :apple: kick-back.

Should be interesting to see what the price plans really are (as opposed to people here reading the anticipated price of :apple: BT Headset as the expected monthly service fee and flipping out)

Verizon is as much of a corporate behemoth as att/Cingular, and odds are they just didn't like the terms :apple: demanded. They are big enough they just said 'hah - we don't need no stinkin' iPhone'...

Have not seen a case I like yet - mine will be naked, or in an iPod sock..
 
You're dreaming. AT&T is giving away a lot to Apple already in exchange for being the exlusive iPhone carrier (such as a percentage of monthly fees, and complete interface control), and if you think they'll come up with some super-discounted plan for iPhone users, you're nuts. The iPhone is targeted at a wealthier demographic, who is probably already paying close to 100 bucks a month for voice/data. They'll sell out of these in no time; what's their incentive to discount the calling plans?

Dude YOUR DREAMING ...this is why they are not discounting it. The price of the service plan is built into the price of the iPhone already. As much as we might think that the iphone is worth $599 it is not... so Apple and partner AT&T are making money by selling it. The service plan is AT&T's to sell they get all the business they are making money on that as well. I would not be surprised to see a re-structuring of cell phone plans to more of what the Europeans enjoy.
 
What about us docs in scrubs? The pockets are barely usable and things fall out of them all the time. My Treo is safely ensconsed in a hard case on my waist. Although I suppose we can fall into the "superhero" category ;)

To further that notion - what about us, investment bankers, that need to look clean and sharp with our blackberries attached to the back of our waist....
 
To further that notion - what about us, investment bankers, that need to look clean and sharp with our blackberries attached to the back of our waist....

To futher my Belt Clip obession...

I also plan on buying the apple bluetooth device so don't even have to unclip my belt helf iPhone to answer a call...

When I get a call, I will pull the bluetoothy thing out of my pocket...put it in my ear.

Click.

Hello?
 
Apple is not holding back the plans... ATT is. I seriously doubt the pricing will come-in lower than expected. I suspect the key reasons the plans have not been revealed yet are:

1) keep the hype and speculation going
2) slow down the competitor response

Oh yeah... and those cases are pretty badly designed.

If the plan prices would be considered too expensive, one would think that AT&T (with Apple's marketing genius behind them) would have released them early so that the hype which Apple has been cultivating with their every-other-work-day announcements would roll over it and make people forget.

So, I think the prices will either be identical to the current prices, or less expensive. If they are, in fact, less expensive, then this may be Monday's or Wednesday's announcement. (That is, if Apple continues announcing stuff every other day...)

Though, I kind of hope the prices are a bit high... I need to buy an iPhone for someone (a belated birthday gift), and I need all the help I can get! If the pricing scheme gives Apple & AT&T a black eye, then fewer people may be trying to get one... I can only hope. (Of course, it better not be TOO expensive!)
 
*shrug*

My *truely unlimited, no tricks unlimited data plan* (i'm lookig at YOU Verizon and Sprint) is $40 on ATT.

Anyone expecting less is out of their minds. Period.

And I've had a taste of verizon and sprints notion of what "unlimited" is...which is why i'm not a customer of theirs.

Look, its very simple; you like to be surprised on your bill, you DON'T go with Cingulatt. Every month, my bill is within a $5 dollar range, no matter what i do or how much i talk; I don't even *have* a landline anymore. I can talk for hours a day, everyday, and don't have to worry about an insane bill. If i need to use my phone as a modem on the go, i 1. Actually can because i can get a frickin connection and 2. don't have to worry about a "wtf?" $300-$400 bill due to (ugh, so archaic) "overages".

The bottom line is, all of the pissing and moaning is for naught; if you don't want to be an ATT customer, you aren't using an iPhone...at any price...anytime soon. And if you think that you'll be getting around this come EuroLaunch, I assure you apple is waaaay ahead of ya' :)
 
Not to disagree with an employee who may or may not know his own name, but. Remember that Verizon turned Apple down on the iPhone. Ask yourself this: Would the top cell phone company turn down the hottest product in years at a price point of $120/month? The answer clearly is NO! Certainly not on the Edge network to boot.

Apple is holding back the pricing because that is going to be the final surprise, or if you will the "Killer App"

If Apple and ATT are dumb enough to bring it out at $120/month, they wouldn't be needing all those extra employees for crowd control, now would they?

Put on your thinking cap people. No one wants to pay $4/day for a phone, not even an iPhone. The price is the final unbelievable feature. That is why Verizon passed. Apple low balled ATT to get them to think long term and market share.

Apple ][ Forever!

Probably about 80-90 bucks. I know it's a broad range, but since plans won't be "exotic", they won't deviate from the current norm (39.99 for 450 anytime and 5k night/weekend, 29.99 smartphone max: unlim data 1500 sms = ~70.00 without taxes and fees, usually 15 bucks).

It just depends on whether they classify it as a PDA or not, and since it's offering POP, full email, visual voicemail (which is most likely adds to the price) and other stuff, it's gonna be significant.

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Can't really say what would be true regarding some surprise data plans especially when vice pres of ATT says the plans wont be exotic. But that could be apple-like talk sometime denying something and coming out with features just a months later. It would be nice if they put an acceptable plan especially after paying a hefty sum on iPhone. I am sure they do know about consumer opinion by now that many potential customers will be turned off considering the price. And looking at the way they have addressed some of the issues with iPhone (third party support, other features, etc) when blogs were filled with rant, its possible that they will think twice about putting up a hefty price plan.

Having said that, how about a plan where they give first year of data plan free. now that will for sure lure many customers. Its just consumer psychology which many businesses exploit (6 months reduced rate on internet plans for example). With carriers usually subsidizing the phones by 200 bucks on such high end models, in iPhone's case that can be used for one year free. (ok thats less than $20/month plan but that may be a surprise). :)

Just dreaming! :D
 
My *truely unlimited, no tricks unlimited data plan* (i'm lookig at YOU Verizon and Sprint) is $40 on ATT.

Anyone expecting less is out of their minds. Period.

And I've had a taste of verizon and sprints notion of what "unlimited" is...which is why i'm not a customer of theirs.

Look, its very simple; you like surprised on your bill, you DON'T cor with Cingulatt. Every month, my bixx is within a $5 dollar range, no matter what i do or how much i talk; I don't even *have* a landline anymore. I can talk for hours a day, everyday, and don't have to worry about an insane bill. If i need to use my phone as a modem on the go, i 1. Actually can because i can get a frickin connection and 2. don't have to worry about a "wtf?" $300-$400 bill due to (ugh, so archaic) "overages".

The bottom line is, all of the pissing and moaning is for naught; if you don't want to be an ATT customer, you aren't using an iPhone...at any price...anytime soon. And if you think that you'll be getting around this come EuroLaunch, I assure you apple is waaaay ahead of ya' :)


Hello RnSK, I agree with you 100%. $40 unlimited data plan, coupled with my current 450min/free nights and weekend $40 plan comes out to $80 per month. So to all those who think Apple and ATT can charge a 50% premium for the iPhone service on the EDGE network, well, lets just say they are dreaming. The EDGE network is a tough sell at $40/month. $80 is the point where the deal get expensive. $70/month, now that would start a crazew that would need extra employees to be hired. Oh, kinda like what ATT is doing for the launch, hmmm.

Verizon didn't pass because of an Apple kickback. They'd just pass that along. They passed because Apple's deal includes a reasonable plan pricing as part of the deal. You are right on with $80/month. That's the "not too high, not too low" price that everyone wins with. Hey, Job's didn't get to be a billionaire by accident. He's a very smart guy and he knows how to price products. Anyone who thinks that ATT gets to decide the monthly plan rate is just simply wrong. For sure it was part of the deal with Apple.

Apple ][ Forever! (For you DTphonehome!!!!)
 
I just talked with an AT@ T representative yesterday. With all the features of the iphone, plus service with 1000 minutes of phone air time, the cost will be::::::

120.00 per month for one Iphone :(

i'm going to wait for prices to come down for sure.

God, that would be so incredibly boneheaded of them. They had the sense to let Apple do visual voicemail, let's hope they have the sense to price this really competitively. Since there's no discount on the phone price, I am actually expecting that the monthly fee will be very low, to compensate.
 
I just talked with an AT@ T representative yesterday. With all the features of the iphone, plus service with 1000 minutes of phone air time, the cost will be::::::

120.00 per month for one Iphone :(

i'm going to wait for prices to come down for sure.

AT&T store reps DO NOT know the pricing for iPhone plans yet. They have been known to be pulling stuff out of their butts.
 
I usually keep my iPod nano in my wallet when not in use. When I wear jeans, it usually goes upside down into the coin pocket. the clickwheel works well through denim so I only have to reach to the pocket to control volume and change tracks. the clicker on the headphones is actually very useful for blind navigation.

But I also like having the iPod in my hand when walk-dancing down the street. Just like in every iPod commercial :D

An iPhone would probably go right in the pocket, maybe a display protection thingie (provided the screen still works) but that's it. Cases are so inpractical and you can't feel the vibrating alarm...

Don't think I'll get the BT headset. The earbuds with microphone are just fine. And don't look as geeky, and I love having the voice o both ears.
 
This is getting sooooooo oooold now...

Cingular is just too pricey a carrier. Their lowest voice plan is $40/month and includes only 450 anytime minutes, unlimited nights and week-ends, and rollover of unused minutes.

Sprint: 39.95/month for 450 minutes, unlimited Sprint-to-Sprint, unlimited nights and weekends..no rollover

Verizon: 39.95/month Unlimited IN Calling to any Verizon Wireless Customer
FREE Night & Weekend Minutes

Yes...*clearly* Cigulatt is MUCH MORE EXPESIVE :rolleyes:

Unlimited data is $40/month for smartphones/PDAs. You can cheat and get an unlimited data plan for $20/month by telling them you have a different phone, but since at&t will be signing you up for 2 years they'll probably also require both plans, so I would assume $80/month to be the minimal commitment for the iPhone.
It wouldn't be so bad if the iPhone was 3G, but EDGE? Forget it. EDGE is not worth $20/month, let alone $40.

And $120 for the headset when you can get a Jawbone for $80 at eCost? I don't think so.

Lets see..Verizon offers a 450 talk/"Unlimited" Smartphone/PDA Data plan for...'drumroll' $79.95...which is EXACTLY THE SAME ****ing price as Cinulatt.

But What about Sprint...the proported Best Deal Around?

I'm not even gonna bother...just read this "great deal" for yourselves:Gitcha! Gotcha!


So seriously...really...HONESTLY.

Just. Stop. It. Please.

ATT cost *exactly the same* for their combo Voice and Data minimum high speed data plan, AND its really Unlimited AND your unused inutes don't vanish down the toilet.

Find something else to bitch about...because the pricing is on parity with the industry.
 
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